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Jaden Korr

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  1. I, Jaden Korr, formerly withdrawal from the alliance Limitless Nexus. I failed to see any reason to actually justify such a devastating war from either side and I am glad to lead my nation away from this seemingly endless blood feud.
  2. *sigh* The first step in reconciling two parties that are in conflict is to find common ground and build from there. We can't agree that peace is a better focus than vengeance. We can't agree on what does and does not justify war. We can't agree what constitutes tolerable behavior and what is out of line. We can't a agree what does (and does not) constitute a rogue action or nation. If we can't find common ground among any of these topics then I suppose there truly isn't any hope for a peaceful resolution. I know this war will eventually end and that there will be peace. I would just prefer that peace would come through words and work instead of missiles and mushroom clouds.
  3. Let's examine the facts: I support peaceful coexistence and prosperity. You claim that my views line up with yours. You claim to hold the traditions of Casus Belli and Just War theory. Casus Belli is defined by Merriam-Webster as " an event or action that justifies or allegedly justifies a war or conflict." http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/casus belli The Just War theory's clauses on the Just Cause of wars says: "Indeed, traditional just war theory recognizes only two kinds of justification for war: national defence (of one’s own state or of an ally) and humanitarian intervention." http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/war/#JustCaus You also claim that you officially recognize Chae Yeong: (presumably) as a leader that adheres to definition of civilized and holds to all the traditions you listed as an auxiliary to your alliance and that you support his actions. Ok, this could all be still be true at this point. However we run into a serious problem when we examine Chae Yeong's explanation for his little nuclear rampage (http://www.cybernations.net/search_wars.asp?search=540023&Extended=1) which started in late August and lasted until late September: ______________________________________________________________ Message: To: Chae Yeong From: Jaden Korr Date: 9/3/2016 11:03:38 PM Message: So is there any motivation at all for this or are you just bored? To: Jaden Korr From: Chae Yeong Date: 9/4/2016 12:23:46 AM Message: there is a significant amount of motivation. To: Chae Yeong From: Jaden Korr Date: 9/5/2016 12:20:06 AM Message: Such as? Did our alliance or our allies do something? Are you a mercenary being paid for by our enemies? Are you just bored? I'm just curious as my role in this conflict has pretty much come to an end. To: Jaden Korr From: Chae Yeong Date: 9/5/2016 12:38:42 AM Message: your leader had a personal vendetta against my old alliance, GOONS. a few members of GOONS formed another alliance which fought limitless nexus for several months, but eventually they went inactive or joined other alliances. i'm one of the only ones left, and i'm just making sure he doesn't forget that we're still around. _________________________________________________________________ (Context for the message thread. Towards the end when I said "I'm just curious as my role in this conflict has pretty much come to an end." was after the 4th nuke when there was nothing left to fight him with.) He clearly states that his justification for war is "i'm just making sure he doesn't forget that we're still around." This presents you with a rather serious problem as Chae does not conform to either standard. He has no Casus Belli and he doesn't conform with the Just War Theory. You can't have it both ways (that's called hypocrisy...and lying). Either you stand for: Peaceful Coexistence and Prosperity, like I do. Or you stand for: Reciprocity and Vengeance, like Chae does. You can't have it both ways. Pick a position and support it but do not insult the intelligence of all those gathered here by pretending that you can just pick and choose for each as you see fit. It's your choice, make it a good one.
  4. BREAKING NEWS An emergency summit of the UN has been convened in light of the present crisis as the death tole continues to rise. All involved parties have been called to the floor to present their side of the story. We go now to our live feed from the UN General Assembly Hall... Literally the truth though...
  5. In all honesty though, there are two questions I would like answers to. 1. What happened that made you guys hate each other so much? (The animosity and rifts that are evident definitely predate my experiences with all of the involved alliances. I started my nation back at the beginning of March and joined Limitless Nexus around the end of April. These divides seemed to have been cemented well before then.) 2. What are we actually fighting for/over at the moment? (What is each side trying to accomplish?) I ask these mainly to try to get a better understanding of the situation. I don't really have much experience or knowledge when it comes to inter-alliance relations.
  6. What did the past war achieve? Peace? Only for a few months. Stability? No. Reduced tensions? No. Prosperity? No. Is there any legitimate reason to expect that this war will be any different? The only thing it will accomplish is destruction on both sides. Civilians dead, infrastructure destroyed, technology and land lost, money wasted and soldiers killed. Since the war earlier this year ended there was a brief time of peace. Rather than use this time to work for lasting peace, nations on both sides started funding proxy powers like Chae Yoeng and Sir Kindle who began making strikes against weaker nations on both sides. Did leaders of either side attempt to reign this in? If they did they failed terribly. Rather than work to deescalate tensions leaders on both sides have used this as an excuse to bring us all to war. I don't know who fired the first shots and in the end is doesn't matter. What matters is what we do now. This war won't solve the problems that led to it. It won't make the mistakes and missteps of the past disappear. It won't prove one side right and the other wrong. Things are never that simple. Leaders of the alliances in this war have a responsibility to their members, those who have placed their trust in them. They have an obligation to their members to do what's in the best interests of their alliance. To defend them from threats? Absolutely. But also to provide the best possible environment for their growth, stability and prosperity. Leaders on both sides claim that prosperity is their desire and their goal. I say prove it. More fighting will not right the wrongs of the past. It won't bring stability. It won't bring strength. And it won't bring peace. We have a choice to make, all of us, from the weakest to the strongest and from the oldest to the youngest. What do we truly want? If we believe that every slight, injury and insult of the past most be answered for in blood then we will never be free from this madness. We will become nothing more than slaves to hatred and vengeance. An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth leaves everyone blind and toothless. However, if we believe that our highest priority should be our own peace and prosperity then we must break this cycle of violence. Am I truly trying to say that we should all just sing Kumbaya and forgive each other for past offenses? No. I'm not naive or foolish enough to believe that expecting (or suggesting) such would be anything other then complete lunacy. What I am saying is this, we need to decide what is more important: Prosperity or Poverty, Peace or War, Growth or Destruction, Freedom or Death. We don't need to love or forgive each other in order to have peace, we just need to place prosperity as a higher priority than hatred. During the Cold War, the USA and the USSR were about as opposite as they could be ideologically. They both hated each other and wanted to see the other burn in nuclear hell fire. What happened? Did they wipe each other off the face of the map? Did they launch a destructive war in an attempt to destroy the other? No. Looking back it is hard to image two nations more at odds with one another and yet they didn't surrender themselves to war. They didn't forgive each other, establish thriving diplomatic relations and they definitely didn't love each other. If two nations that hated each other so much were able to maintain peace, is it really so absurd to think that we could too? Peace doesn't require forgiveness or love, just a simple choice. We have two choices: 1. We can decide that trying to make others pay for their crimes, their wrong-doings and their mistakes is too important to pass up. We can choose senseless violence that won't fix the past, or undo the damage. Or. 2. We can choose to continue disapproving of each other, mistrusting each other and disliking each other. But we can do so at peace. We can build our members up, we can reach new heights and we can grow more prosperous than ever. We can choose peace and benefit ourselves. All it takes is choosing our members over our hatred. Lasting peace can be achieved but immediate peace is a more realistic goal. Terms of such a peace would be simple and straight forward. The leaders of all involved alliances agree to abide by the following: -Enforce a ban (among their member states) on declaring war on any member of the opposing alliances for a specific amount of time (a few months? a year?). -Reign in proxy nations like Chae and Kindle (I use them because they're the only ones that I specifically know of) and holding them to the same terms for the same amount of time. The above is simply an example to prove a point. Peace is a choice. Its a choice that will benefit all of us. But we all have to choose it. In closing I would simply say this, we all have more to gain in peace than in war. We all have more to gain in stability than strife. We all have more to gain in prosperity than poverty. War is a choice but it is a poor one. Peace will benefit us all but war will hinder us all. The choice is yours, peace or war.
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