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Thanks for the input What u say makes sense, but by saying "You do not currently meet those conditions", you imply (or maybe I see it that way) that the multiplier *2* for happiness is under circumstances less than 2, thus decreasing income. I do NOT say otherwise, but I actually make ~$4 in bonuses MORE than calculated. So somehow I make an extra $4 in bonuses without knowing how, or I/we have the wrong formula, or Y (following you here) can under circumstances be higher than 2. Problem is that I (so far) have not found anything mentioned towards Y being less/more than 2 though (said it before but never mind) it seems logical. Thanks again.

...so I checked my "Government positions" and found out that in the matter of the Nuclear non-proliferation treaty (question #2) I opted for A which in terms of income is wrong. I changed to B and *Avg. Gross Income Per Individual Per Day became $213.88 instead of $203.38 *Population Happiness : became 29.58 instead of 30.82 So the *UPDATED ONCE MORE* formula is now 213.88 = [30+ (2*29.58) + X] * 105/100 * 135/100 * 116/100 * 125/100 * 101/100 which, if you solve for X makes X= 13.86 Now 2.5 is the event and Uranium is (3 + 0.15*30)=7.5 which both add up to 10. I am now missing $3.86 EDIT : by changing the answer to question #2 my population count went from 30100 to 29707. Any thoughts on this ? EDIT #2 : to answer the above, by changing from A to B on question #2 you loose the +half star effect on environment you already had (A gives half a star). So mine got to 10 (from 9). This explains the population decrease.

Thanks for the input. You are both right. I have done the math without the School/University/Harbor impact. So the *updated* results are 203.38 = [30+ (2*30.82) + X] * 105/100 * 135/100 * 116/100 * 125/100 * 101/100 which, if you solve for X makes X=6.47. Now 2.5$ is the event, so I am still missing something (6.5-2.5 = 4$ to be precise). To be exact I *SOMEWHERE* make 4$ that I can't find. Now could it be the Uranium ? Thanks again EDIT : Quote from the wiki "...If a nations government preference favors nuclear technology for the use of nuclear power plants but does not support nuclear weapons then the nation will receive +$3.00 per citizen and +$0.15 for every level of tech purchased up to level 30 but loses -1 population happiness..."

Trying to calculate (future) income I found the formula mentioned in the wiki Now according to my status I currently have *Avg. Gross Income Per Individual Per Day: $203.38 *Population Happiness : 30.82 *Banks : 5 *Foreign Ministry : 1 *Event : Citizen income +$2.50. So the above formula would be (disregarding the event) 203.38 = [30+ (2*30.82) + X] * 105/100 * 135/100 The problem is that doing the math above, you find that X=52.05 which cannot be correct, so I am obviously doing something wrong, or have the wrong formula. Any thought (or guidance) would be appreciated

Ayukawa It is RARE that after ~20 posts to SPECIFIC questions, people have writen so much Bull**** instead of possible answers. I will NOT apologize in the name of others. I am in the game less than 2 months. I remember having the exact problems (and questions) so I hope I can help. The only real purpose of an alliance for a new player like you (and me) is to avoid beeing attacked by raiders (pirates). In the beginning of the game, when you are very weak, there is a chance (if you are on your own) for this to happen. You CAN play on your own, without beeing member to any alliance. Maybe (I do NOT know) some alliances "force" you to have their flag. Most do not. Maybe (I do NOT know) some alliances "force" you to deal only within the alliance. Most do not. Most (if not all) alliances offer some sort of help, if you join them. "Bribe" is also a word used for this. The help has one purpose. To help you become an active member quicker than you would do so without it. An alliance is the sum of its ACTIVE members. So, the more of them, the bigger the alliance. Simple. Thats why they spam you. In any case, you CAN leave any alliance especially beeing a "freshman". Most of them don't bother losing them, since there is little lost. I will NOT advertise ANY alliance although I belong to one. I chose after some days of "research" in the forums and it was NOT based on how big the bribe was. Have fun playing. Its just an game. If you have ANY questions pm me in the game. I will GLADLY answer them

Conor why do you behave like this ? What does "both of you" mean ? what has the other player done ? he unlike (i repeat UNLIKE) me has AGREED with your proposals and set up his nations resources, and now you leave him out in the cold ? Feel free to copy/paste any part of my messages, so that everybody can see that I agreed with you at any point. All my messages are UN-edited.

@Conor I have just seen [url="http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=114564"]the other thread[/url] where you have me listed as a *member* of a TC with [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Wine & Furs as resources[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]To set some things straight so that there will be no misunderstandings. [/font][/color] - I have never agreed to ANY proposal of yours.

OK. For now all my (5) slots are full. Will pm everyone once delivery dates are near.

@ Conor I am currently still without any circle but AFAIK I can NOT swich until after 30 days (6 day nation in case you didn't notice). Correct me if I am wrong on this one. Of course I CAN switch to ANY color/team if we work things out. Cheers

The title says it all. Complete newbie, but VERY dedicated. Will be around for a long time (or at least that's the intention). BE prepared for *SOME* guidance although have done more than enough reading about this. 3/50 Nation [url="http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=515677"]http://www.cybernati...ation_ID=515677[/url] Cheers

Cheers to everyone My nation : http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=515677 (2 days old) My resources (for now) : Cattle and Gold My color (for now) : green (but was a random pick) Harbor : NOT YET NO Alliance yet. Looking for a trade circle, or at least something to begin with. PS : Wishing everyone a HAPPY new year.

IF possible count me in Nation : http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=515677 My Resources : Cattle, Gold Team : Green (but not a member of any alliance so can change) PS : only 2 days in the game so do not know MANY things yet. So if this offer is not good (in whatever way) sorry. HAPPY HOLIDAYS