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  1. SC are great people and superb allies. This just reeks of awesomeness. O/SC O/NEAT O/ROMA
  2. I am glad to see this. Good luck, King Floater. Dont be a stranger. O/CoRE !
  3. I love this. A truly awesome treaty and I LOVE the comic. Congrats all around.
  4. [quote name='Varianz' timestamp='1299156182' post='2651067'] I ran the numbers about a week ago too, and you were only at 11 wars then. So yeah. And I have no problem talking about active wars per nation- NSO has nothing to be ashamed of, nor do our allies. These are the stats as of yesterday morning: [/quote] Dude. What exactly is your point? If you seriously want to call out someone who was on your side of a conflict by throwing some weak numbers around, be my guest. I just am not sure what you are trying to prove. How does that make your alliance or coalition (of which we were a part of) look any better? It doesnt. My point was that by throwing stats around, you are just opening the door for someone to start posting LOLpeacemode stats again. And no one wants that anymore. I dont play the statistics game. I am sure if I did, I could come up with something that would make you look worse than what you are and make the NAC look better. I dont have the time or energy to waste on pointless crap like that. I also ran numbers throughout this conflict and what I seen was far different than what you have posted here. First we get criticized for going all in, and now we are criticized for not declaring enough ? Do you think that maybe everyone should just stop criticizing their own side and just move on? If you guys have such a problem with the NAC maybe you should come talk to us in private instead of airing it out here. I am sure you will find that we have more in common than you realize.
  5. [quote name='Varianz' timestamp='1299153639' post='2651052'] And NAC was any better? As of yesterday morning, hours before peace, you had a total of 7 active wars for an alliance of 50 people. [/quote] I would say its not a good idea to start throwing stats about how many wars are active per nation in the alliances at war. Yes. hours before peace we still had 7 active wars. Had we not been unable to fight on we wouldnt have decided to leave the conflict and I am sure that number would have been a little different. But hey, feel free to bash away. We know what we gave to this coalition. We gave everything we had. If it is still not up to some of your standards, then so be it. [quote name='Guffey' timestamp='1299137909' post='2650953'] While going all in and being spent is a reasonable reason to leave, they should not have thrown all in from the get go knowing how long of a war this might be. 6-12 months +. Everyone knew that going in, and should have planned accordingly. [/quote] We are a micro AA with limited resources. We knew that going in. heck anyone who looked at our pre-war stats would have known it as well. Most micro AA's are incapable of prolonged war. Thats a fact. The NAC did the best we could do with what we had. We brought all of our force to bear and hit the enemy with all we had for as long as we could. We lost over half of our NS in the process. But we left it all on the battlefield. I wish all those remaining in the Coalition the best of luck. I hope your strategy works and you find yourselves victorious. And I would like to give a shout-out to my opponents in this war, especially Hiro Nakara of Tora Tora Tora for a good clean fight.
  6. [quote name='Salmia' timestamp='1298804013' post='2646082'] Except there are nations turtling on our "side" as well, still hypocritical. Just as you said you don't want one member to represent the entire alliance or a coalition, that is how it works here. If someone says something that is not exactly.. smart but is a member of an alliance or a coalition, people will take that as the opinion of the entire alliance or coalition. So there is almost a duty to criticize lest the alliance is also painted in sharing the same viewpoint because they're fighting on the same "side". You can't paint all of GOONS based on one nation or a side based on one nation but people try to use those arguments over and over. [/quote] I just have to say that you make a very good point. I still cant say that I agree with it, but, I do see what you mean.
  7. [quote name='Dr Beefstupid' timestamp='1298710329' post='2645350'] I have to say I find it very pathetic that someone would be outraged at someone being critical of their own coalition. There's way too much of an attitude around here along the lines of, "You're on the other side, therefore nothing you say is valid. I shall continue to defend something my ally said, regardless of how stupid or thoughtless." [/quote] Well. As I said in an earlier post, I shoulda just kept my darn mouth closed. But I didnt. here is why: Even if I dont agree with what someone on my side says (which happens a lot), I find it respectful to refrain from dumping on them. At least in public. Especially on the OWF. I understand the fact that someone doesnt agree with a coalition or doesnt like someone or their alliance. Thats fine. But to belittle an aliance you dont even know whom is on "your side" was enough to ruffle my feathers. If thats pathetic, then so be it. [quote name='Ernesto Che Guevara' timestamp='1298710540' post='2645354'] Agreed. Not adhering to party talking points is how the GOONS/Europa relationship prospered. You can criticize RV all you want, but you look ridiculous getting all up in arms about a man expressing his own opinions. Also, inb4 GOONS/NSO treaty. [/quote] To me it was the seeming lack of respect that got under my skin. Not the opinion. As I said, I expect it from GOONS. I didnt expect it from RV. By making the post I did, I was expressing MY opinion. see how opinions work? And looking ridiculous is my second nature. In my ridiculous world, one members opinion doesnt warrant a comment about a whole alliance or a coalition. Just as I dont take RV's post as coming from NSO. [quote name='Salmia' timestamp='1298723322' post='2645396'] You honestly think that just because people are fighting on the same "side" that we owe any loyalty to them? Then you must be somewhere off in dreamland. My loyalty is clearly defined by my treaties, I entered this war to fight for TPF. I certainly have my dislike of some alliances so do other people. Some people will hold back but to expect someone to have some sort of "taboo" just because you are on the same "side" is ridiculous. We all ended up here through different ties, we have different histories and our dislikes. If someone makes a post that paints a "side" as endorsing that action, you can bet someone will jump on it if it is something they don't want to be seen supporting. The lolpeacemode argument is tiresome and for it to be made again, especially by someone who is on a "side" that is using it as a tactic is rather fruitless. To backtrack, this piece of propaganda was interesting to say the least. Nice to see people having fun with war. [/quote] I guess my idea of loyalty is somewhere in dreamland. I would not take a shot at someones alliance with whom I am fighting side by side with regardless of whether I liked them or not. Especially in a very public forum such as this one. There is a difference between disagreeing (as we are doing now) as individuals nations and dumping on an alliance whom you have never met. Yes we all came together through different treaties. But we came together. Or at least thats the way I seen it. And again.. Thom's post was about the nation he was fighting going turtle more than it was about peacemode. But, I digress.
  8. [quote name='denkimon' timestamp='1298640184' post='2644701'] I find your insult to my comment ironic to say the least. Why do you feel so? My point is simple. Just because you disagree with someone does not automatically make it trolling. RV states disgust with the posts from 'your side', how is that being a troll? Perhaps you should ask yourself instead why RV feels this way, and whether or not such feelings are warranted. I'll just throw it out here too- I'm not here to win some battle of wits on the OWF because..well why bother? I've seen plenty of 'facepalm posts' from my side as well. [/quote] Well. i just wanted to clear something up. I was quoting the fact that you guys called my friend an idiot. I wasnt calling you an idiot. If I was trying to insult you I woulda called you a "big doodie-head" or something. Blame it on failed grammar, lol. But at least we agree on the facepalming. And I could care less why RV feels the way he does. Just surprised to see it on a public forum. But oh well.
  9. [quote name='denkimon' timestamp='1298639689' post='2644697'] I do not think that word means what you think it means. [/quote] Probably not. You will never hear me brag about this fine Kentucky backwoods education. Lol. Maybe I should have used a different term. I am sure most of yall know what I meant. Heck.. to be honest, I kinda wish I woulda just kept my dern mouth closed. I blame it on the lack of coffee this mornin.
  10. [quote name='blueski' timestamp='1298638320' post='2644691'] To be fair, Thom was being an idiot. There's trash talking, there's wartime banter and all that jazz, then there's his drivel. Before getting upset over someone on your side having a bad impression of yourselves, you should wonder who (if anyone) is getting anything but from the last couple pages of idiocy. [/quote] Thom is my friend and my ally. I will defend him no matter what he says. I look at those posts and can see the point he was trying to make. I can take (as I am sure Thom can) our enemies bashing our words and throwing insults (like the idiot comment above) at us. Its only expected. I guess I am a little "old school" and didnt expect to be bashed by my own side. But everyone has an opinion and I can respect that, I guess.
  11. [quote name='Rebel Virginia' timestamp='1298602322' post='2644380'] [color="#0000FF"] Really? Why do you feel the need to say such stupid things, Mini Invicta? Not many GOONS have used peace mode in this war. Only a handful are even cycling in when they have the chance. Really.... I hate this side. Edit: Oh, it's not just Mini Invicta trying to use the stupid peace mode argument. I reiterate: I hate this side.[/color] [/quote] First and foremost, The NAC are battling GOONS and we are throwing everything we have at them. We (like GOONS) are not hiding in PM. In fact most of us have had and are still having a lot of fun battling against GOONS. The banter between our alliances has been as expected. Thoms posts were more about his opponents turtling than being in PM. Does a few of our members and a few GOONS members say things out of passion? Yes. I have read a lot of comments on this and other threads that have made me facepalm. I am sure everyone has. But I know that the comments made are made out of passion for our respective alliances. I read what some of the GOONS have to say on here and I know it is wartime banter between two combatants. Its expected. I can take some GOONS talking trash. I expect that. They are GOONS. We are at war with them. I would be disappointed if they didnt. Whats NOT expected is someone with whom we have NO problem with, who is in the SAME coalition as we are, in an alliance whom I personally liked and respected, to troll us. I can understand disagreeing with someone. I can understand that you dont "like" us. But you have never talked to me or my alliance, so you dont do not even know us. Still you find it within reason to just verbally attack the NAC in a public forum. For that alone, what respect I had for you just evaporated. I take more offense to your post than I have any post made by GOONS or any of their allies.
  12. I am happy to see peace, thats for sure. TOP is a very respectable alliance and have shown they are classy. NX did show some [i]cajones[/i] so props there as well. But it seems as if the alliance(s) that NX were defending are still at war.? I mean.. dont get me wrong here.. I think it honorable and all, and I am glad to see white peace for NX, but, the early exit caught me by surprise a little. However, I digress. NX has shown they will defend their allies. That should be good enough. I have known Sonic and NX for some time and I respect their decision to leave the conflict.
  13. Congrats all around. This looks like a great treaty. Invicta are great allies. And SOS Brigade seem like some great people ( Locke). This is a win/win scenario. O/Invicta O/SOS
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