Cyber Nations Forum Rules 07/03/2016Cyber Nations Forum Rules
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The following are basic guidelines for use of the Cyber Nations community forum. Anyone caught disobeying these guidelines will be issued a warning. The forum staff works on a five warn limit policy unless the situation calls for more appropriate action ranging from a verbal warning to a double warn and suspension to an immediate ban, etc. Just because something is not listed specifically here as illegal does not mean it's allowed. All players are expected to use common sense and are personally responsible for reading the pinned threads found in the Moderation forum. Questions regarding appropriateness or other concerns can be sent via PM to an appropriate moderator. A permanent ban on the forums results in a game ban, and vice versa. Please note that the in-game warn system works on a "three strikes you're out" policy and that in-game actions (including warnings and deletions) may not be appealed. For more information regarding in-game rules please read the Cyber Nations Game Rules. 1.) First Warning
2.) Second Warning
3.) Third Warning (48 hour suspension at the forum)
4.) Fourth Warning (120 hour suspension at the forum)
5.) Permanent Ban Game Bans and Forum Bans
If you receive a 100% warn level on the forums, you will be subject to removal from the forums AND have your nation deleted and banned from the game at moderator(s) discretion. If you are banned in the game, then you will be banned from the forums. Process of Appeals
Players may not appeal any in-game actions. This includes cheat flags, canceled trades, content removals, warn level increases, nation deletion, and bans from the game. Players may appeal individual forum warnings. You may only appeal a warning if you can show with evidence that it was unwarranted or unduly harsh. If a reasonable amount of time has passed (no less than one month and preferably longer) in which you have demonstrated reformed behavior than you may request a warning level reduction. Wasting staff time with inappropriately filed reports and/or unfounded appeals will result in a warn level raise. Repeat incidences will result in a ban from the forum. Bans are permanent. Banned players may appeal to the Senior Staff if they believe grounds exist (very, very rare) in which they state their case with evidence and why explain why they believe they deserve to be allowed back into Cyber Nations. This process is not quick and the investigation into cases may last three minutes or three weeks or more depending on the individual situation. The only place where discussion of moderator action is acceptable is in the appropriate Moderation forum. Posting commentary on or disagreement with moderator action elsewhere will result in a warn level raise. Posting
All posts must be in English. Common phrases in other languages will be allowed so long as they are translated upon request. Foreign languages are permitted in signatures and avatars, however. Certain areas of the forum require you to have a nation in either standard CN or CN:TE. If you have... A SE and a TE nation: You get one forum account. Your forum account name must match your SE nation or ruler name. You are allowed to post in either SE or TE areas of the forum. You must have your CN:TE nation name listed in your profile to post in the CN:TE section of the forum.
Just an SE nation: You get one forum account. Your forum account name must match your SE nation or ruler name. You are not allowed to post in any TE areas of the forum.
Just a TE nation: You get one forum account. Your forum account name must match your TE nation name or ruler name. Your must have your CN:TE nation name listed correctly in your profile. You are not allowed to post in any of the SE areas. You are allowed to post in the water cooler, question center and the moderation forums. Other than that, all your posts need to stay in the TE area. Flame/Flamebait/Trolling
Flaming is expressing anger or lobbing insults at a person/player rather than a character, post, idea, etc. Flamebait are posts that are made with the aim of targeting/harassing/provoking another user into rule-breaking. Trolling is submitting posts with the aim of targeting/harassing/provoking a specific group into rule-breaking. Forum users should not be participating in any of these, and doing so will result in a warning. Topic Hijacking
Hijacking is forcing the current thread discussion off of the original topic and usually results in spam or flame from either side. Forum users found hijacking threads will be given a warning. Repeat Topics
One topic is enough. Repeat topics will be locked, removed, and the author given a warning. Users found creating repeat topics after others were locked by staff will receive a warn raise. Joke Topics
Topics created as a joke are prohibited. Joke topics will be locked and the author warned. This includes topics in which the author is making an announcement “for” another in-game alliance. Humorous threads are permitted; it is up to the discretion of the moderation staff to determine what is merely satire and what is actually a joke topic. Spam
Spam is defined as creating posts or topics containing only contentless material of any kind. Users found spamming will receive a warning. Examples include (but are in no way limited to) posts containing nothing but smilies, "+1", "QFT", "this" any other one/few-word contentless combination, joke threads, or posts containing quotes and anything that counts as spam by itself. Adding words to a post with the express intent of avoiding a spam warn will result in a warning. These posts and other similar contributions have no substance and hence are considered spam. Posts of "Ave", "Hail" or any other one word congratulatory type are acceptable as one word posts. Emoticon type posts such as "o/" without accompanying text is still not allowed. Posts containing only images are considered spam, unless the image is being used in the Alliance Politics sub-forum and then the actual text of the image be placed into spoiler tags. Posting in All Caps
Posting large amounts of text in capital letters is not permitted. Use discretion when using your caps lock key. No Discussion Forums
There are forums that are not for discussion and are used strictly for game and forum staff to address certain issues, bugs, etc. The following forums are not open to discussion: Report Game Abuse, Report Forum Abuse, and Warn/Ban Appeals. Only moderators and the original poster may post in a thread, period, with absolutely no exceptions. Users found disobeying this guideline will receive an automatic warning for each offense. Moderation Forums
All Moderation forums also maintain pinned threads clearly marked as required reading before posting. Failure to read and follow required reading and procedure in a Moderation forum will result in a warning. Examples include posting requests in the wrong forum, failure to include all required information in posts, etc. The standard of conduct and enforcement of rules in Moderation forums is strictly enforced and the repercussions for disregarding rules or disrespecting staff are harsh. Read the pinned threads before posting and you will be fine. Namecalling
Excessive or unqualified namecalling is not allowed in IC forums; namecalling should also never make up the bulk of a post. Namecalling is prohibited entirely in all OOC forums. Filtered Words
Any attempts to evade the word filter will result in a warning. The terms we have filtered are filtered for a reason and no excuse for evasion will be accepted. Filter evasion includes censoring or deliberately misspelling part of a filtered word. If you link to a website, image, video, etc., containing profanity, please post a disclaimer before the link. The moderation staff may still remove links if the content is deemed too obscene. Harassment
Forum users should not be stalking/harassing others on the forums. Anyone found stalking players from topic to topic, etc., will be subject to a warning. Gravedigging
Gravedigging is not allowed anywhere on the forums. Gravedigging is "bumping" old topics which haven't been active for quite some time (four to seven days is standard depending on the nature of the thread and how many pages back it had been pushed before bump). Your warn level will be raised if you are caught doing this. The Suggestion Box and Black Market forums are partial exceptions to this rule. Suggestions/ideas in that forum may be posted in regardless of age PROVIDING that the reviving post contains constructive, on-topic input to the original topic or discussion. Black Market threads may be bumped by the author if there is new information about the offered exchange (i.e open aid slots). In the Player Created Alliances forum it will not be considered gravedigging to bump a topic up to a year old, so long as the alliance in question still exists and it is not a duplicate thread. Signatures
Those who fail to read and abide by these rules will have their signatures removed and receive a warning. You may have only one image per signature which may not exceed the maximum size of 450 pixels wide by 150 pixels tall. You may have no more than 8 lines of text and text size cannot exceed size 4. Each quote-tag, image and empty line count as a line. Inappropriate Images and Other Disallowed Images
Images that are sexual in nature or have sexual overtones are prohibited. It is up to the discretion of the moderation staff to determine what constitutes sexual overtones. Depictions of kissing are permissible provided there are no sexual implications. Images depicting female nipples are prohibited outright. Making “ASCII art” is prohibited regardless of the image depicted. Using photos or likenesses of another Cyber Nations player is also prohibited. Drug References
Images and posts promoting illegal drug use are prohibited. References to drugs are acceptable only if the moderation staff deems that it is not promoting the use thereof. Obscene Content and/or "Account Suicide"
Anyone caught posting vulgar material (including but in no way limited to pornography, "gross," "tubgirl," "lemonparty," photos depicting RL illegal acts such as violence towards humans or animals, child pornography, death photos, and any other obscene or offensive material in either text form or picture form) will have their account(s) permanently banned, and their ISP contacted along with any other applicable internet and RL authorities. OOC Threats / Revealing Personal Information
An OOC threat of any nature will equate to an automatic ban from the game and forums. Likewise, the publishing of personal information of any other player without their explicit permission is grounds for warning and/or a ban from the game depending on the severity of the offense. Death Threats / Death Wishes
A death threat or a death wish of any nature (including but not limited to telling another player to commit suicide) will result in at very least a 40% warn level increase and 2 day suspension from the forums, with harsher punishments, including a complete ban from the forums and game, up to the discretion of the moderation staff. Quoting Rulebreaking Posts
Do not quote any post with obscene content or any other content that has to be removed by the moderation staff. Doing so makes it more difficult for the moderation staff to find and remove all such content and will result in a warn level increase. Putting rulebreaking posts of any kind in your signature is prohibited. Forum Names
With the exception of moderator accounts, all forum accounts must match up exactly with the ruler name or nation name of your in-game country. Those found not matching up will be warned and banned immediately. Forum account names may not be profane or offensive. Multiple Forum Accounts
With the exception of moderators, if you are caught with multiple forum accounts, the multiple account(s) will be banned, warn level raised, and your identity will be announced by a moderator to the CN community so rule-abiding players can take IC action against you. Multiple forum account offenders will receive a varying percentage warn level raise and/or a permanent ban on a case-by-case basis. Posting For Other Players
Posting for banned or suspended players is prohibited, as is posting for any person without a nation. This includes making warn and ban appeals on their behalf. Imitation &. Impersonation
Imitation in terms of this forum is mimicking the posting, avatar, or signature styles of another user in an attempt to be satirical or generally humorous. Impersonation in terms of this forum is copying the posting, avatar, or signature styles of another user in order to present the illusion that the person is in fact that user. Imitation is fine and can be quite funny. Impersonation is disruptive and is warnable. Please pay attention to the subtle difference between these two concepts. A player may not impersonate another player by emulating the characteristics of someone else's past or present account in an attempt to harass, stalk, or flamebait. Creating a new forum account in an attempt to impersonate a standing account will result in deletion and banning without notice. Any attempt at imitation and/or impersonation of moderators and game staff is strictly prohibited and will be met with harsh repercussions. Avatars
Size for avatars is limited by the forum mechanics, therefore there is no size issue for a user to worry about. Avatars must be in good taste, and any avatar containing a picture that is too violent, disgusting, sexually explicit, insulting to another player or staff member, etc. will be removed. Avatars that are potentially seizure inducing will not be permitted. Players may not "borrow" the avatars of any moderator past or present without permission. Swastikas and Nazi Imagery
The swastika may not be used in signatures or avatars. Pictures of swastika's are acceptable for use in the In Character (IC) sections of the roleplay forums, so long as its context is In Character, and not Out Of Character. Pictures of Hitler, mentioning of the Holocaust, etc... have no place in the roleplay forums, since these people and events existed in real life, and have no bearing or place in the Cyberverse. Other Nazi or SS imagery is forbidden in all forums. Moderation Staff
The revealing of the private identities of any Cyber Nations staffers past or present is strictly prohibited, and thus no speculation/accusation of identity is allowed. Doing so is grounds for moderator action against your account appropriate to the offense, including a full forum/game ban. Claims of moderator bias should be directed to the highest level of authority--the Head Game & Forum Mod/Admin, Keelah. Claims of moderator bias without supporting evidence is grounds for a warning. Blatant disrespect of the moderator staff is strictly prohibited. This includes but is not limited to spoofing moderator accounts in any way, sig/avatar references, baiting, flaming, rude demands, mocking, attitude, and unsubstantiated claims of bias. They are volunteers hired to enforce the rules. If you have a problem with the way a moderator is enforcing the rules or the rules themselves please contact Keelah. Attempting to use the moderation staff as a weapon by abusing the report system in an attempt to get another player warned or banned is strictly prohibited. Do not ask about becoming or campaign to become a moderator. The moderators are drawn from CN membership but moderation positions are by invitation only. Asking to become one will substantially decrease your chances of ever being asked. Aiding Rule Violators
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Prime minister Johns posted a topic in Open National RPI am back for the time being , I thought about coming back for a long time but there have been a great many demands on my time IRL and I simply have not had the time for CN. So , did you manage to burn the place to the ground while I was gone or is it worth starting again (7th time lucky) ?
1. That's why we invented SSBNs, also the moment you launch an ICBM the thing lights up like a christmas tree to anyone who bothers looking. Once you have launched the ICBM it does not matter if the launch platform and missile are lit up like Christmas trees, shooting the plane won't stop the missile and it has served it's function. And an ICBM will light up like a Christmas tree regardless of the launch platform it was launched from. 2. Unlike a SSBN however the plane is easier to detect and the speed advantage also counts for interceptor aircraft in the supersonic and hypersonic ranges whereas an attack submarine is much slower and ASW in general is not as quick. As you pointed out it also lacks the capability to stay in the air for longer durations whereas a SSBN can stay submerged for as long as it takes the crew to use up its resources. This is why I will also be using SSBNs as well, only one or two of my missiles will use this method so I can avoid the flaws of SSBNs I pointed out in my previous post. 3. They're however not protected against interceptor aircraft and fighters in general so the survivability is most likely smaller than that of a B-2. That is why it will have a fighter escort and fly with the support aircraft of my forces if it is deployed. And it will be able to mount countermeasures packages such as chaff & flares (I believe many C5's & C130s have these in RL).
1. How stealthy can C5 made for it to be a useful stealth launch platform? Low radar observability by replacing the structure & shell with composites is the possible limit. There is a difference between stealthy and true stealth. And low observability is enough of an advantage to be strategically useful. 2. Even in a stealth aircraft how can something as massive enough to carry a massive ICBM have thermal stealth? At the range the weapon will be fired thermal stealth will be unnecessary. It will be firing over the horizon... way over the horizon, considering the weapon has intercontinental range. well beyond the maximum theoretical limit of IR detection. 3. Even if you have created a perfect stealth platform wont the measure of stealth be lost during the launch time when the cargo bays are opened for some time? Going for perfect stealth would be over-engineering the problem. And a dedicated cargo hold for an ICBM could get the missile out of the aircraft in less than 20 seconds, and after the missile is in the air shooting the delivery vehicle will do nothing to stop the missile. The diminished stealth caused by deploying the missile is a moot point. 4. Submarine launched missiles serving its primary purpose of having secondary strike capabilities are employed so that even if primary land based missile silos are taken out, they provide a strike option that is harder to engage. What secondary strike capability can your system provide considering its very low endurance and obvious dependence on land? Having a airborne platform would increase the elusiveness of the platform. It would be able to evade the "super" SOSUS networks in place by simply not being in the water to be observed by SOSUS. I remember from playing previously the SOSUS grids that could diagnose engine faults in SSNs from across the planet by their sound and provide a pinpoint location of that sound with an exact description of the ship that made it. I would rather not have all my eggs in the one basket when it comes to secondary strike considering the ease at which SSNs can be countered. 5. Considering C5s primarily require land based runways and considering a strategic weaponry like this would operate most likely within friendly air space ( an assumption) how would they be more advantageous than a land silo launched or a mobile TEL launched ICBM in terms of reaction speed and flexibility? There is always international airspace that the plane can loiter in, it would not be exclusively deployed in friendly airspace. It's probable deployment area would be with the other support aircraft such as AWACS & Airborne command posts near the theater of operations, and it would have fighter cover to counter the interceptor threat it would face. 6. Considering airborne platforms are more vulnerable to weather phenomena than land based or sea based platforms how useful would such a system be? At high altitude most weather phenomena can be avoided, most commercial aircraft fly at 35k feet (well within the flight ceiling of a C5) and avoid most of the weather systems such as storms and phenomena such as supercells and hurricanes are easily observed and a course can be plotted around them. And the odds of a hurricane being present at the spot it needs to be during an operation that requires exact positioning are quite low. The best way of not being observed is to be beyond the range of observation, which this aircraft will accomplish. It is a different design philosophy.
[quote name='Kankou' timestamp='1316255767' post='2802169'] It's feasible, but the question would be "Why that path? What's the strategy?". [/quote] Why this path? Why not? And this tech will be built on for other purposes such as air launched satellite delivery systems at a later point, but that is a whole other idea that I will explore in depth when the appropriate time comes. What is the point? Well OOC the advantages of this system are numerous but the most obvious ones are... 1: A highly mobile & elusive launch platform is a hard target to hit on a first strike. 2: A stealthy airborne launch platform would provide similar strategic & tactical advantages to a "boomer" submarine, with the added benefit of speed at the expense of endurance. 3: An air launched missile has many advantages over a free fall bomb, such as a vastly improved stand off range enhancing the survivability of the launch aircraft by enabling the weapon to be launched outside the range of anti-air defenses. Of course this system will have disadvantages but on balance I feel the system is viable as part of a larger strategy of which this system would be part of a triad of launch systems which would include airborne nukes, nuclear missile submarines, and land based deep earth silos.
[quote name='Zoot Zoot' timestamp='1316249845' post='2802151'] Well you just answered your own question. It can be done, it HAS been done. But just never made it to active service. So if its feasibility your after, that would be an obviously no. [/quote] That is because another system was chosen, I am thinking of going down the path not chosen. Stealth technology is also available and can and has been applied to vehicles as large as a naval vessel (Using the La Fayette class frigate (last ship inc class launched in 2002 IRL) as my guide & the B2 bomber (Introduced 1997 IRL), my tech covers everything up to and including 2007 (actually late November 2008 if you want to get technical)), so this leads me to part two of my idea. Making a stealth aircraft that will be a dedicated launch platform for a minuteman type missile. The concept will basically be a stealthy c5 galaxy. I am not asking for tech that has not been already been proven to exist before my tech limit, just for a slightly different application of that tech.
Ok I am going to break the mold and actually ask before implementing an idea to see if it is feasible. I am considering introducing an air-launched ICBM system for some of my nuclear capacity, I have done extensive research and discovered that in the 1970's the USAF successfully tested the idea of launching a minuteman ICBM out of the cargo hold of a C5 Galaxy . [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=It7SQ546xRk"]link[/url]
Prime minister Johns replied to Dipster's topic in Fantasy RP (IC)The republic of Novus Niciae recognizes the Republic of Sumatra and wishes to exchange embassies with them. Nike Niciae Secretary of State , Novus Niciae.
I would like to ask that OOC only comments in a IC thread in the IC section of the forum be accompanied by some kind of an IC response as well. It irks me that the first comment in my first RP thread is just rules lawyering with no IC content.
[quote name='Maelstrom Vortex' timestamp='1316200300' post='2801693'] While the radiation was contained within the site area, the Angevin Monarchy still mildly condemns the test on the grounds that no site on Earth stays 100% contained over time and testing in space would have been even less detrimental to the environment. [/quote] We have confined ourselves to one underground test to check variables because of a few minor refinements we made to our old designs that can not be monitored by a space test. Further tests are run in simulators based of the research data we gathered years ago at our old Australian test range, and we have all the data we need to make the adjustments we need to the old data because of our refinements to the warhead design.