You were a part of the conversation between R&R, NSO, and GLoF? The info given to Penedono at the time may be different now, we all know how things change quickly. But that was not my point at all. My point is that you or Baldr have no business calling Penedono a lia, or disingenuous, or misleading, or dishonest, or anything like that because you have absolutely no clue what he knew or didn't know at the time. Nor did you even bother to check for the more than 12 hour time difference between the post and the attacks. You simply saw something that fit your narrative and pounced without any clue to what might have happened between then and now. I could care less about your narrative. I do take issue with you calling my mates liars when you clearly do not have your facts straight.