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  1. Here's my thoughts: 1) I don't mind paying reps. In hind sight, our attack was not the best move and was aggressive in nature. We should have just allowed CnG to attack us. 2) This is a game. I would like to be able to get the terms over in a month or two. The terms asked would have us paying them for probably half a year to a year. What would be the point of me going through that effort? I'd probably just quit or go rogue. 3) Yes we attacked you, but you prolonged the war. It should have just ended after Polaris $%&@ed us over, since that's who we were fighting for. The whole "well then you would've just been better prepared to attack us later" is bs. It would've swayed the minds of the people in TOP thinking CnG were out to get us since you committed an act out of good faith towards us. And at that point we would have wanted to kill Polaris not you. Now we are thinking less and less of CnG.
  2. [quote name='King Louis the II' date='28 February 2010 - 03:11 PM' timestamp='1267388106' post='2208707'] I really tought that you were someone that used logic. I really did. You have all the right to hate us, and have a different oppinion. However, to talk crap about Sparta military is just plain delusional. If you prefer to live your own fantasy it is your right to do so. However, if yoiu are really interested to know the truth try to learn about Sparta accomplishments during this war. Ask TOP top tier about their fights against us. Ask Liquid mercury, ask Extremerely Average. Ask most of IRON fighters. Take a look at rankings and see how we did after fighting TOP/IRON/Legion/TOOL/OMFG. I have read many of your postings and I really liked many of them (specially your peaceful phase). It is really disapointing to see that you become delusional. If you want to say crap against us is your right. However to say lies just will make you a clown. [/quote] Sorry, being honest here, but I don't get the point of asking TOP about how good you were at fighting. Nearly all TOP'ers would agree that we were crossing our fingers to be attacked by a Spartan than a CnG'er...
  3. You know his IP but can't do anything about him hacking?
  4. [quote name='BlkAK47002' date='27 February 2010 - 11:05 PM' timestamp='1267330111' post='2207452'] But there wouldn't have been a conflict in the first place if the raiding nation hadn't attacked. If the victim nation is unaligned however than the whole " You keep whatever you can hold on to" is valid I'm aligned, If a nation attacked me I would unleash hell on him, CM, Nukes, Aircraft, spies, navy, ground war, the whole nine yards. If you are the victim of an attack it;s in your best intrests to respond with overwhelming force to the point where he says " wow this was not a good idea!!"If the raiders alliance has a problem with it you can say " Your member nation was the aggressor, he attacked and got what he deserved. Now he has to pay for damages" Other alliance: Well not really because your nation fought back, Your alliance: well fighting back doesn't bring back my stolen money or wrecked infra now does it? Simplest way to deal with that scenario, in my opinion [/quote] I'm saying that if you choose not to accept the peace offer and attack, the raider shouldn't have to pay back additional damage caused by responding to your attacks.
  5. [quote name='Krack' date='27 February 2010 - 11:26 PM' timestamp='1267331419' post='2207490'] Other alliances and blocs don't threaten them. You think C&G is sitting around worried about a Super Friends attack? They shouldn't be. The only alliances on Bob that pose a threat to C&G are TOP, IRON and NPO. And NPO and IRON are nothing without TOP's tech advantage in the highest tier. If they take care of that problem now, they'd have years before their safety was a concern. You still don't get it, do you? The Karma alliances may not all get along and love each other, but (1) they aren't looking for fights amongst each other and (2) they are all convinced the remnants of the old Hegemony are distasteful and untrustworthy. This stunt did nothing to change their opinion. You're not losing because you got stabbed in the back, or because you miscalculated some formula, or because people conspired against you. You are losing because you are disliked (and more importantly, not trusted) by everyone else. [/quote] After this war, you haven't realized that anything can happen? I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss any attack from anybody against anyone. After we are sufficiently beaten and turned into an eternal tech farm planet Bob will be peaceful for years to come and everybody can be friends, since the big bad IRON TOP and NPO have all been defeated! Lets rejoice! Seriously though, I can understand all this built up hate against the NPO, but what has TOP done to warrant all this anger all of a sudden. I acknowledge that our previous council screwed up a bit in preemptively attacking CnG and then strained relations with good allies in the process (which hopefully our new council can fix), but aside from that we were a pretty respected alliance. The GPA war would be our only hiccup and most of us wanted to fix that. We didn't abuse our #1 ranking and were pretty low key... Is this one war going to change our image that much?
  6. Wow, this is getting ridiculous. Can any legal action be taken against him?
  7. Congrats, seems to have been an honorable fight.
  8. I'm sorry from taking Uhtred's twinkies.
  9. [quote name='abdur' date='27 February 2010 - 12:01 PM' timestamp='1267290312' post='2206639'] UrMom of TOP showed us all how to do it. (earlier in this thread) Just go back a few pages or use the search function UPN has its own skin as well [/quote] Yes, my TOP skin was done with the Stylish addon for Firefox which allows you to use your own CSS code for a page. I just installed Google Chrome so I haven't experimented with addons that would do something similar to that. If you need any help just ask, although I've been real busy lately. :S Here is where you can download the TOP skin: http://sogacity.com/b/TOP.css
  10. [quote name='BlkAK47002' date='27 February 2010 - 10:48 PM' timestamp='1267329124' post='2207428'] Best answer here, short, simple, to the point. [/quote] Pretty much what I said. Except that if the robber and you continue to fight since you won't let him go, the robber shouldn't have to pay for your medical bills after that since you allowed it to escalate.
  11. [quote name='Krack' date='27 February 2010 - 07:07 PM' timestamp='1267315862' post='2207136'] My opinion is that you aren't getting peace terms because your alliance is not well liked [u]and[/u] because you pose a future threat to the people you are currently losing to right now. If you want terms from Aloha, you can always ask me. The text you quoted is simply me pointing out (again) why Bob is wrong and a long term war (months) favors the C&G+SFs side as opposed to TOP. [/quote] I really doubt we pose a significant threat to CnG right now since we've pretty much exhausted our political influence and will most likely have to pay reps for a few months. And I'm not really sure if a long term war would favor CnG. If they continue to attack us, they will just keep bleeding NS more and more and other alliances and blocs will overtake them. [quote name='Dochartaigh' date='27 February 2010 - 07:12 PM' timestamp='1267316174' post='2207143'] 1) My opinion has always been that Polaris got what it deserved in the SPW/WoTC. 2) As for calling ya'll bullies- again, i only used Ejay's analogy against him. if he had not brought in the analogy, i would never have said anything related to bullying. 3) There was no conceivable way they would have attacked TOP directly. In fact, had IRON gone in using the NSO treaty, then CnG would have hit IRON and then TOP would have hit CnG. so unless TOP went in via an aggressive clause to defend NSO, there was no way that TOP would have been attacked by CnG. 4) I would blame Crymson and your gov for allowing the wording of the DoW on CnG. put that DoW together with a preemptive strike and you get a negative reaction towards allowing TOP off lightly. [/quote] 1/2) Ah ok thanks for the clarification. 3) I forget the exact discussion, but I think it was similar to how CnG would then hit IRON. So we just skipped right to the fight to give us the upper hand. I don't necessarily agree with what we did either that's the reasoning behind it. 4) The wording in the DoW was a big mistake that we've admitted and it came out really wrong from what our intentions really were. Our true intentions were to really defend Polar.
  12. The person being raided could expect reps for the initial attack, but anything after the first day of retaliation wouldn't have to be paid back. So if a raider destroys 40 infra the first day, the person being raided is entitled to that value in reps. If he fights back, then he shouldn't receive reps worth more than 40 infra.
  13. [quote name='Krack' date='24 February 2010 - 04:33 PM' timestamp='1267047440' post='2202018'] Oh Bob, you're such the military expert. Two weeks of nuke war and short of having 15,000 tech, you're now fighting in the lower side of the mid tier of nations. You can only have so much nation strength with zero infrastructure. The only difference, of course, between TOP nations and opposing forces, is that the opposing forces largest nations won't be collecting in anarchy in perpetuity; the opposing forces will regain their upper-tier as a result of the sheer numbers of nations involved. It will only take 250 nations at a time to keep TOP pinned in anarchy and, while I haven't run the numbers, I estimate that leaves about 5 to 6 thousand nations to rebuild and grow unencumbered by war. Every week, you cycle in a new set of 250 nations. Will it be a long, tedious process in which TOP's nations will be constantly putting the mid-sized nations of it's opponents in ZI? Yup. But as I stated earlier, once the war is over, those nations can be restored fairly quickly with aid. And it would be worth it to remove TOP's tech and war chest advantages (that they are so fond of holding over peoples' heads) - once it's gone, it'll never come back. [/quote] Also, just saw this. This is why we aren't given any peace terms? All of this is just funny to me personally after the whole Karma war.
  14. Holy walls of text. I'm not going to bother to try to jump in on this. Just wanted to comment on one part since it is brought up a lot. Dochartaigh: Do you think we were wrong in the Polar war in attacking Polaris? I feel that we were right in attacking them (their leaders said they would like to dance on our graves, and leaked screenshots showed them harboring resentment for us), although we could have probably handled the reps better. I think TOP received 20k in tech from NpO, I forget how it was structured. It's rather subjective to call us the bullies, since we would not have attack NpO if it weren't for us feeling we were bullied/threatened. And we would not have attacked CnG if we did not think they would attack us down the line in the war, since they constantly "joked" about rolling us and were the only group of nations to somewhat matchup to us. Anyways, I think it's funny that we will most likely receive tremendous reps comparable to NPO's (at least from what everyone has been saying). We have been trying to get out of this war for a while, and it would have prevented a LOT of damage to CnG if they just accepted peace at the beginning. I don't think we are at fault for most of the damage we've done. /.02$
  15. Well, hopefully this ends soon. Sad seeing our allies beat on each other, especially when it's just piling on at this point. Well, best of luck to both. o/ TSO & Umbrella
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