Theoroshia

Confirmed for me.

Aye, that's true. First time on the CN forums in a bit, I saw this and I had to respond somehow. How are ye by the way?

I see our stolen technology helped you out a bit. Glad we could help.

[quote]Firstly Congrats Ven on finally having an alliance named after you(well okay abbreviated after you). Secondly I am curious as to why more of the 57th havent changed tags yet? I noticed a good number of VEN officers were also 57th(corporals or higher) and have not switched and neither have you Ven. [/quote] We haven't decided where to go yet, or are too busy to care.

[quote]Actually if history has shown us anything its not what you do, but how big the friends that stick up for you are that decide if you become a smoking hole or an irate poster. [/quote] You are correct. If I can count correctly, and I'm assuming I can, the amount of people sticking up for us was greater than the amount of people sticking up for you. Of course, this does not matter. The war is over, in a somewhat odd fashion of course, but it's over and we know what's what and who's who.

[quote]Did i misread the other thread Theo or did you get accused of giving this non-existant info to the Lodge, hence your surrender? [/quote] No, the person who faked the screenshot of Veneke posting about the "spai'd" intelligence accused me of faking screenshots. Not me directly, but the propaganda department I run. I surrendered for many reasons; I was out of cash, shocked at what was going on, a tad drunk. I was literally floored that this had happened, and rather than continue on with no cash and nothing to stand on I surrendered. EDIT: Spelling.

[quote]you lied to us. we came. we broke your stuff. we left.[/quote] We didn't lie. You sure did come, unexpectedly and some would say sneakily. About the only thing you broke was our absolute trust in GLoF. As for our stuff, well, that was all nuked to smithereens days ago. And finally, yes, you did indeed quit the field of battle. Here's your knives back, in case you need to stab more people in the back.

[quote]57th broke the treaty when they attacked GLoF's membership.[/quote] I must have missed that part, or else you got things backwards. Care to illuminate me, oh wise one?

[quote]I wonder if the 57 will ever learn.We didn't want this war your government caused this.If he would just tell the truth maybe even say sorry and agree to some terms this would all be over.And for calling us bully's is out of line.We have shown kindness in this war.1.Were letting the members of the 57 become pows 2.As of right that i know of were not even using Nukes.You tell me what allinaces would agree to not use nukes?We use to love the 57 we aid and would fight beside them.Some of us still like the 57 its just there greedy government that has failed them. [/quote] 1) Wow, you're letting people surrender? That rarely happens here in CN. 2) I would peg your no-nuke policy on the fact that your government has already received enough of a bad reputation as it is, and doesn't want to risk it further by nuking it's former friends. Also, our "government" didn't cause this or do anything wrong; in fact, at the time you came looking for us and then later attacked, we had no government members actively on. Additionally, it's been proven that 1) the screenshot that caused you to reconsider the validity of the first screenshot was false and 2) the first screenshot's validity can't be determined because of the file format being used. Sir, if you still "like the 57", then maybe you should take a look at your government and how it's treating you as GLoF's credibility goes further and further downwards.

[quote]But those are - obviously - ancillary speculations which do not count against the One True Truth of Some: that the Lodge is a gang of bullies out there to backstab their closest friends. [/quote] I never thought you guys would admit it.

[quote name='Chron' date='16 February 2010 - 12:14 AM' timestamp='1266279287' post='2183682'] -snip- [/quote] Sir, I love you and everything you just said. I'd be willing to leave my wife for you in a completely non-gay way.

Character assassination through the use of irrelevant logs from months ago. Great stuff. By the way Gyouza, how are ye these days, barring the current conflict(s)?

[quote name='Mechanus' date='15 February 2010 - 09:07 PM' timestamp='1266268032' post='2183433'] I'm not out to get you. Just curious as to why you'd say one thing after surrendering to the Lodge PoW, then turn around and go back to the 57th and say you hope they take you back, then turn around and go back to the Lodge PoW and now come here and post things in defence of the 57th. I'm quite perplexed by this. [/quote] Well, to answer your first question; Last night, Pen sent me a message saying that I could go to whatever AA I wanted, that he was not out to get me. I told him I'd be going back to the 57th Overlanders AA (and I will admit, I got smart with him. No point in denying it). I didn't realize he meant after the current conflict was over. I therefore switched back to the Lodge PoW AA and sent him a message explaining the mix-up. What I said during those first hours is a make-up of alcohol and anguish at what I had thought my alliance leader had done. After re-examining everything when sobered up, I quickly realized all of the evidence was hearsay at best. I will admit, my opinions on what has been happening in the 57th these past few weeks hasn't been all that positive, but after seeing this happen, I can't help but agree with how we and our allies are handling the situation. EDIT: [quote]say you hope they take you back[/quote] That was a joke, directed at JWConners remarks saying that Veneke should not let anyone who surrendered back into the 57th.

[quote name='Mechanus' date='15 February 2010 - 08:58 PM' timestamp='1266267493' post='2183418'] I find it curious that you are here defending the very alliance who's leader, and I quote: [/quote] I knew you'd bring this up eventually. Yeah, at midnight my time, after seeing the supposed overwhelming evidence provided by GLOF, and after seeing the initial reaction by everyone, I thought Ven actually might have done this. Since then, I've changed my mind. Seems you're not out to just get Veneke anymore Mech. Anything else ye'd care to post about me Mech? Because right now, I could care less what you do to me in this game.

[quote]he was until we were provided a fake ss implicating him in spying on your alliance............thats why he attacked. Did you just get here? [/quote] There's no proof that it was faked, other than tens of people voicing their opinions and your so-called 'experts', which is what all this hubub on the OWF is about. Did *you* just get here?