Jocabia

[quote name='Captain Nathan Brittles' timestamp='1341287722' post='3002135'] How long ago was the colony purchased? Could it have expired? [/quote] I'm pretty sure it was there when I started moving stuff. Plus, I looked at the purchase time of the two that are still there and I'm pretty sure I bought the colony, in between, which would give it like 60 days left.

-28.00000, 150.00000 96% -28.00000, 160.00000 92%

I just had my colony disappear when I moved my moon mine.

I did not share any women. I resent the implication that I did.

This is just another step toward the end of the pathetic waste that is HB. Oh, wait, I'm on your side, then... All hail this wonderful turn of events.

I spend one night with my girlfriend and this is what happens.

[quote name='Xiao Weng' timestamp='1299791523' post='2658992'] Quite welcome. I was sure to try and use small words so you could understand them. It seems you could![/quote] Thank you. Hardly, a word over two syllables. I appreciate it. It was very helpful. Thank you for not considering your next or last post when writing each post as well. That also made things easier. [quote name='Xiao Weng' timestamp='1299791523' post='2658992']Seems you discussed your displeasure with us at the same time, so there you are. From the discussions I was seeing, I'd been led to believe we [i]did[/i] discuss our displeasure with you. At one point, seems we'd been offered part of that deal as well. [/quote] We did? When? Please, who discussed our displeasure with you to the enemy? Please, give their name. When? You got logs? [quote name='Xiao Weng' timestamp='1299791523' post='2658992']Retroactively, yes. But no, you haven't really dealt with it all that well. We had a concern, said we were delaying, you folks seem to have privately flipped the @*%& out, and then they let you off the leash to act the fool. Again I say, if <24 hours is such a problem, then there's a greater issue at stake. Why was it so important for us to go first?[/quote] You don't like how we dealt with it. I get that. But we dealt with it. And we dealt with it to The Brain. We didn't deal with it by going to your enemies nor the OWF. We're just the kind of !@#$%bags to address our concerns with you to you. Sorry we didn't take your approach. We'll try to be more honorable and Brain-y in the future. [quote name='Xiao Weng' timestamp='1299791523' post='2658992']Not that you were cancelling, that you did cancel. That you were the ones setting us up, and so on. I'll just be repeating myself over here until you get it.[/quote] It wasn't up for discussion. The things you did were done. We'd have initiated discussions if there were discussions to be had, but after you bad-mouthed us to enemies, and to the world, and failed in so many regards, there wasn't an acceptable explanation. What explanation do you possibly think you could have given that would have changed our minds? That the entire cast of Glee hacked your accounts? [quote name='Xiao Weng' timestamp='1299791523' post='2658992']It'll go until it doesn't, Joca. I get that you have a problem with me. I get that you've been rather butthurt by my treatment of you in the time you've been playing. Really, I do. I know it's been awhile since you haven't been butthurt. I was getting worried when I could be arsed to remember. I think it's a good thing that you've found a stable home where you can continue to act the fool at my expense; really it's fine. In the end, what have you really lost? [i]The entire alliance associated with someone you don't like no longer has anything to do with you.[/i] Isn't that fun? Now you don't have to pretend and you can continue to act the fool all you like. In public, even! Now everyone can share the same annoyances I had to when you first got too big for your britches. It'll be great, really. [/quote] Heh, I'm not butthurt about beating you the last time. I like winning. And yes, getting an entire alliance to back down from five nations was winning. Owning you on the OWF was a great time. Getting the nations you asked to attack me to privately declare a ceasefire against your orders was a lot of fun. And in the process I protected every single nation you wanted to attack until all you could do was shake your fist impotently on the OWF. Much like you're doing now. And as you point out, what did it cost me? Nothing. Nothing at all. Since then I went to your own alliance, the alliance you ran, and joined them which again caused you impotently shake your fist in rage. And after all your hand-wringing I ended up bigger, stronger, more respected and with more loyal followers than I would have had absent your little bit of fun. Good times, brother. Seriously, if you're ever in my neck of the woods, let me know. I've got the first round. Bring freelancer with you. We'll all get together and impotently shake our fists as people walking by refuse to do our bidding.

I'd like to personally thank you for this thread, Xiao. As you know, I've always been a fan of your failures on the OWF. As always, you not being able to think a move or two ahead exposes your dishonesty rather quickly. Thanks for that. What we've discovered from this thread is that you actually did intentionally and pointedly put the 40K techno beats term in to protest the reps against an ally. Who did you discuss your displeasure with first? LoSS, an enemy. We've discovered that your barbs aren't just in jest. They were meant to piss us off because you were hoping we'd be pissed enough to use private channels. Why you didn't use private channels in the first place is beyond me, but I've never been one to defend your thought processes in the past. We've discovered that at no time did you try to communicate your actions with us. Only us with you. Yet you're complaint is that we didn't do that enough. Apparently, keeping up our alliance with one another was our responsibility but beneath you. Incidentally, when you didn't show up on time for the war, we did deal with it. We attacked anyway. And when you bailed on the war, we did deal with it, we kept fighting. And when you bagged on us publicly, we did deal with it, we canceled our treaty with you. And guess how you found out we had an issue with all of these things? We communicated privately to you via our treaty cancellation. When you had an issue with reps, you communicated it to LoSS, but not us. When you had an issue with what you suspected was your alliance being set up, you communicated to no one. When you wanted to peace out, you communicated with LoSS, but not us. All of these were initiated by you and not communicated to us. The actions we initiated were communicated to you. That's why you knew we were cancelling our treaty. Hey, keep this thread going though. As usual, you seem to have been totally and utterly blind-side but the natural progression of a thread you started. You must be great at chess.

[quote name='Xiao Weng' timestamp='1299783081' post='2658783']Yes, it's clear there has been said problems. As always, if there was ever a problem with us, with the way we handle our foreign policy, with the way we communicate on the Open World Forum, then our forums are right there. A private message is right there. There's been multiple avenues for you to contact us - but you guys gave up after there wasn't anyone on IRC. We heard nothing. [i]Nothing[/i]. But now, [b]now[/b] you guys are talking! Now you're pissed! Now you're [i]honest[/i]. Fantastic. That's a start. We'll see if that continues. [/quote] I love the hypocrisy. Our response to a communication with The Brain was to cancel a treaty with The Brain by sending a message to the Brain. Your response to being upset with CSN was to cancel your DOW without telling CSN, to bagging on us to LoSS, to bag on us publicly in peace terms with LoSS, and then to bag on us publicly in the OWF. Clearly, we're in the wrong there. All of our communication about you was with you. All of your communication about us has been to someone else and, generally, made public by you.

[quote name='Xiao Weng' timestamp='1299780982' post='2658741'] Considering CA's own cancellation clause leads to an assumption that 'things will be worked out', color us surprised when our forum masks were removed. Said removal of masks prompted the Mooninites. Said Mooninites engender responses from your allies that suggest that because we didn't play specifically to your tune, we're the antithesis of what you want on Maroon. Oh hey, that rhymed. I do like the hedging on 'may or may not be true', though. That's classy right there. [/quote] The "hedging" is because I'm not actually aware of the truth of it. Neither are you. That's the point. I don't make conclusions absent evidence. It would be nice if we could both say that. I'm going ignore the silliness of a thread where you suggest that you've been ousted from CA, though you left, and that you've been ousted from Maroon when also didn't happened, and then use some people saying good riddance as evidence for your claims. And it is silliness. [quote name='Xiao Weng' timestamp='1299780982' post='2658741']The consensus seems to be that we're not wanted on Maroon. Given the size of our alliance compared to the rest of the bloc, I'm expecting war to be declared any day now. Such is the price of 40,000 fresh tehcno beats. [/quote] I love this one, too. Who is threatening war? This is a completely made-up slight against Maroon in an attempt to overshadow your own behavior. The bulk of Maroon hasn't threatened you with war and no one here has suggested it accept you and people who are not on Maroon. As has been pointed out, even USN wasn't forced off Maroon. [quote name='Xiao Weng' timestamp='1299780982' post='2658741'] By the time the forum communication thing would've come around, our treaty was cancelled after retroactive notice was given. You wanted to come to us to cancel, you [i]failed miserably in doing so[/i]. Had we known you were so pissed beforehand, we would've done something differently. I can't read your minds, so when you're ticked with us you [i]come to us[/i]. [/quote] Kind of like how you come to us when you're not planning to attack? You mean like that kind of "coming to us". The point is you said you're hoping to inspire a discussion and rather than simply starting one with us, you decided to attack us on the OWF like a child and hope we'd get annoyed enough to come to your forums. [quote name='Xiao Weng' timestamp='1299780982' post='2658741']You misunderstand me. I'm completely honest in my dealings with you. I found the terms to be a joke, and we found that if our entering the war on your side wasn't to be enough - which it seems it wasn't - then so be it. We went to war with LoSS on your behalf, and out of gratitude you cancel our MDP and tell us that we're not friends. I would say I'm sorry that you had to dive in without a chain instead of piggybacking on an alliance, what, a fifth of your size, but I'd be lying through my teeth. [/quote] I'm not claiming your terms weren't a joke. But the core of jokes are often your true feelings. You openly mocked your allies as you also did in private. You bailed 35 minutes before you were supposed to declare war along with your allies and the only reason we even knew about it was because we sought you out. There is plenty of evidence of us looking for you in order to communicate. What evidence have you for any attempts from The Brain to communicate with us? How many times have you initiated communications about this and other things? It seems you cry foul about something easily remedied when you never even once tried any of several avenues to remedy it. Your games on the OWF are meant to distract people from your own behavior but throwing CSN under the boss. Given CSN's history with The Brain and The Brain's history with CSN, your behavior is more than disappointing. And no one, not one person suggested our friendship was over from the side of CSN. You made that up as well. Although, it does seem you're doing your very best to make it true. [quote name='Xiao Weng' timestamp='1299780982' post='2658741']Yes, of course! In jest. I will happily take it in the spirit that it's offered and give it all the attention it deserves. If you have anything further you'd wish to add in private, feel free! You know where our forums are. [/quote] My responses to your public rants will unsurprisingly be public. Much like your responses to our private communications with you should have *shocker* been private. See how that works? I can explain better if you like. I know that you're new to this whole diplomacy thing, yeah?

Good luck, RoK.

Oh, this is all in jest.

[quote name='Xiao Weng' timestamp='1299770909' post='2658534'] I have a secret hope that my grandstanding generates some kind of response from the Commonwealth other than their enrenched allies speaking for them, or the hedging one-liners that have seemed so popular as of late. Maybe we'll luck out and this will kickstart something on the back end (as we've heard little to nothing from the CSN since before the war started, and it seems their former MoFA wasn't able to stoop to using the forums to contact us). Or maybe it'll generate missiles launched from the SuperFriends for our perceived grievances. So it goes. (In reality, I [i]really[/i] wanted to use Walter and the Mooninites. Good imagery helps promote entertaining announcements.) [/quote] First, I love that you just completely made up the idea that you preempted an attempt to boot you from the CA. It may or may not be true, but you have no evidence it is, yet you imply in several posts that you do. The decision to leave was your decision. Second, it's been implied that your alliance is being booted from Maroon. No one has ever even suggested that you should leave, let alone that you're required to leave. Third, are you unaware of where our forum lies? Last I checked the link to our forum was available to everyone, publicly. Somehow a representative of LoSS made it there, so I'm pretty sure it's possible for our oh-so-good friends to find it, no? I seem to have missed all the threads where you tried ever so hard to communicate with us. I'll say that I'm among those in CSN who openly questioned our handling of the treaty with you, but I must say I like your handling of it less. You and I have had our issues, but I hold the majority of The Brain in high regard. I knew little of this drama until you made it public, but I also know enough about it to know that you had other venues that would have been better suited to the discussions you claim to want. Attempting to use the OWF is somehow encourage communications that you could have started directly is childish. Launching attacks at CSN because you're upset they canceled your treaty is childish. And pretending that your attacks are all in good fun because you're not man enough to be honest is childish. If you held even a modicum of the respect you claim to hold and you were the adults you claim to be, then it would more than abundantly clear that this is bad behavior on your part. Furthering conspiracies about Maroon, GOD, and CSN is not something you should be doing to friends, especially since your claim that it was in "jest" seems to fall a little flat given the outright attacks that have been leveled by you and others in this thread and others toward CSN. But, hey, all of the above is in jest. See, that makes it just like I didn't say it at all. Seriously, in what world do we think putting "j/k" after insults erases them? My nephews stopped using that argument when they hit high school.

[quote name='MaGneT' timestamp='1298945557' post='2647360'] Ah, back to Titan's one line that means we wanted to ditch LoSS, are we? [/quote] Kind of like you clinging to the fact that we actually engage and share with our allies and negotiate together as an excuse to say we're run by Xiph? Kind of like that. The difference, we can actually point to counter-evidence that shows us acting on our own. In your negotiations, until we accused you, there isn't a single example that you can cite to counter the fact that you abandoned them. The only thing you can mention is the fact that you joined in the first place, which is why we call it "abandoning" rather than simply ignoring them or refusing to fight. The most amusing part is that you guys wouldn't look half as cowardly if you'd just not entered in the first place since you had conflicting alliances by your own admission. Instead you tried to bail after 6 days and after only a couple more were so willing to surrender that you were willing to pay reps after a beating that had lasted about a week. It's pathetic. See, I can rehash old arguments, too. Something tells me, though, that isn't going to get anywhere. We've shown you to be pathetic. You think shaking your head vigorously counters that. And in the end, the evidence of how much we owned you is in the fact that you were prepared to surrender, and even get reps, after such a short time. I don't know that I've ever seen such a display. EDIT: Also, let me be clear, this has little to do with your membership. Lots of your members fought well as individuals and as small groups, but there was no overall coordination and, if you're making comparisons, that is what Leonidas did.

[quote name='MaGneT' timestamp='1298944692' post='2647342'] /facepalms We do not convince ourselves that we are achieving an outright military victory. We view this as Leonidas viewed his stand with the 300. We have made you bleed - badly. To us, that is victory. [/quote] Leonidas made as much out what he had as he could. He didn't fail in any number of ways outright. He didn't jump in and after 6 days of getting his behind handed to him, attempt to quit while leaving behind those he was claiming to protect. He didn't fail in any number of ways at being prepared for war and planning for war. And he didn't have a group of companions that numbered six times his own group and then utterly fail at coordinating with those companions in order to do max damage. Leonidas completed several goals successfully. You guys asked for an apology and didn't get it. You asked for white peace and didn't get it. You attempted to abandon your companions after 6 days and didn't accomplish it. This was our war. We controlled it. Leonidas was totally in control even in defeat. If not for a betrayal from within, Leonidas would have controlled the outcome for much longer. Your leadership is a lot of things. A valid comparison to Leonidas, you are not. There was nothing noble about the sacrifice you asked of your members. We don't pretend the sacrifice of our members was for some noble cause. It was what our alliance asked of us. And we did it. And unlike your alliance, we did it well and victoriously.

[quote name='MaGneT' timestamp='1298942579' post='2647312'] Congratulations. You have superior numbers and a WRC, so you can come on here and bluster about how much damage you've done (oh, and congrats on stripping us of our one dead weight member who was our token peace mode stalwart . . . who happened to decide to spend his 2bil warchest on tech . . . well done). It goes to show how you are unable to pose a successful counterargument to the OP of this thread. Not even one. Just other bluster about how "DT SAW OUR FORUMS AND THEN AFTER THAT THEY CHANGED OUR MINDS AND THAT MEANS THAT THEY ARE EVIL AND WE DESERVE MONETARY COMPENSATION" . . . keep on posting.[/quote] I've made several successful counter arguments. It's just pointless to keep highlighting them. It is fun however to prove over and over that you guys aren't winning despite what you attempt to tell your members. I think this is the first time I've seen you admit you're plainly losing. Didn't you tell me you were winning when I spoke to you directly? Haven't you been claiming that throughout this thread and others. Haven't you tried to claim that our alliance was running out of money and we couldn't sustain this war. We won. Handily. You lost. You denied it for weeks and it's gotten worse by the day. We drill everyone you put in front of us. And if you're unsure of why, ask my alliance who organizes our top tier, who ensures that every slot is full and stays full, who tracks your exact dollars and watches you spend them as you try to stay relevant in the face of a complete and utter beatdown. I don't need to make excuses for why we deserve monetary compensation. I just have to believe it. Because we decide what outs you have from this. Not you or anyone else and we both know it. We can't make you choose a specific course of action, but if you get away with lower reps it will be because we were kind enough to allow it. If you pay higher reps it will be because we demanded it. And if you burn to the ground it will be because we denied you the out you guys thought you would get with lame PR stunts. Every effort you've made has failed. Several members of your alliance are excellent warriors for the record. The reason you weren't more successful was generally that you weren't as coordinated as you should have been and you didn't take advantage of any of the times you gained the upper hand. There were several times we royally tanked our attacks before I took over. That's how several of you got into peace mode. The fact is many of us could have been put into dire straights with the right pressure but your leadership didn't recognize the opportunities. Your members fought valiantly. Your leadership failed in every possible way. You can keep telling them that it was impossible and that this couldn't have turned out better because we were too big and too mean and too greedy and every other excuse you can make, but I can label specific ways you could have hurt us more deeply and protected your membership better, ways I'd be happy to explain after the war. There is an apology that your membership should demand and it should be from those who represent or claim to represent them. [quote name='MaGneT' timestamp='1298942579' post='2647312']Awww look how he backtracks! [OOC: There is a feature called multiquote, where you can click it on each of the posts that you want to reply to, then click add reply, and you'll get all the quotes in one!] [/quote] I'm backtracking because I decided not to deal with a post that started and ended with "your an idiot" and can be summed up by those words throughout. And if you don't know why "your an idiot" is ironic, I have to say, I'm not particularly surprised.

[quote name='AuiNur' timestamp='1298938997' post='2647249'] Ignoring the pages of CSN dribble.... Is he talking about me?! Did i just get a shout out! :smiles: Feeling good right now. BTW, not rebuying soldiers if you don't have a FOS is strategy. [/quote] I'm talking about the dude who just joined with a 1 million dollar warchest. I know you don't have a one million dollar warchest. Your warchest will last you about another week, two if you turtle really well. Want me to tell you what it is. While you remain in anarchy, our nations will continue to slip into and out of wars, collecting in between and right the rubble of your nations down into the dirt. Everyone who has come out of peace mode or joined your AA has suffered the same fate and will continue to. I also know that besides the people who joined your AA in the last five days, you have like two active nations with more than 5 nukes. You have about 40 nukes among the whole lot of your active nations. And most of you, you included, don't have any nukes at all. In our top 10, we've got two nations that have less than 25 nukes and one of them has 23. It's not too difficult to figure out how this is going to turn out if it continues.

[quote name='Buds The Man' timestamp='1298939181' post='2647252'] your an idiot[/quote] Oh, the irony.

[quote name='MaGneT' timestamp='1298934493' post='2647165'] I'll open with this, as the great warrior Jocabia struts his . . . less than 3mil casualties. You sure are tough, buddy. And you talk like you're some sort of seasoned fighter. I've got more than you and my nation has never grown above 8000 infra. Not once . . . [/quote] Yes, I'm so embarrassed about the number of casualties I have. So much so that I won't correct your mistake on the amount I've ahd. I've fought in 12 wars in this battle. 12 opponents have lost something 400K for their alliances. Feel free to go back and look at the charts. Examine the ones I'm fighting right now. The former largest in your alliance surrendered to me yesterday after I bill locked him. But, yes, feel free to talk about me not having enough casualties. I mean, it couldn't have anything to do with the fact that the nations who are fighting me simply haven't been as successful as you'd like. Let's talk about how many casualties I've dealt to your alliance. Or the over 94K I've dropped from your alliance just this round. [quote name='MaGneT' timestamp='1298934493' post='2647165']Yes, this entire situation definitely would not demonstrate any bitterness from CsN . . .[/quote] Aw, man, does this mean you don't want to share a beer after this is over? [quote name='MaGneT' timestamp='1298934493' post='2647165']. . . informed, too. [/quote] You're good at recognizing sarcasm, brother. Reheheally good.

[quote name='Dochartaigh' timestamp='1298930854' post='2647079'] well there are only 2 nations over 70k in war mode in CSN and one of those will most likely be below 70k after tonight. so, don't oversell CSN there mate. anyways, i will now take my leave of this thread as Bud is correct. it is nothing more than circular arguments and all that. [/quote] Because the other out for another day or so. Hang out, they'll be two more in war mode before you can say "Yumpin' Yimminy". Of the inactive guys you've got over 70K, two of them haven't been active the entire war and one has been in peace mode for more than 3 weeks. I think we can safely say the days of you guys being a threat over 70K are over. But you're right, out of our 125 nations we've only got 4 active nations over 70K. And in your 365 nations (in LoSS and DT), you've got 0. Or over 50K we've got 22 nations (probably about half are active). LoSS has 3 active nations over 50K and one of them has 1 million dollars in his warchest. I wonder how long that will last him. But DT is doing much better as they've also got a whopping 3 active nations over 50K. So out of 365 nations in the two alliances you've got 6 who can and will fight our upper tier and one of them can afford to buy soldiers. Good luck with that. We could lower it to 40K and take a look. That will add a devastating 4 more nations on the DT/LoSS side of activity. That's a total of 10 nations over 40K that are not in peace mode. We've got 24 nations not in peace mode and ready to fight over 40K. And three more that are just in peace mode until they get back from a trip. The funny part is that if EVERY nation in LoSS and DT came out of PM tomorrow, you STILL wouldn't have as many nation over 40K as we do. And I'm not including Legacy or RnR in any of these counts. You guys can keep adding ghosts as you like. You'll notice, we're unperturbed and each time one shows up we fill up every slot they have and drag them down just like we've done to every other nation that isn't in peace mode. Oh, and if you want to start the whole we're out of money debate, I can post the warchest of every single nation in both alliances (DT and LoSS) over 20K. I know when you'll run out of money. Pretend you're being as magnanimous as you like but half your nations over 20K won't last another week. We have more nations with a billion dollars left than DT has nations. Bet me I can't. I'll post every single war chest right now. EDIT: I will give it to Runt, though. Not only can that dude fight like a badger, but he's got an incredible warchest. He could fight for a year. He'd be by himself, but he could keep going for a year.

[quote name='corps' timestamp='1298930739' post='2647075'] But they don't even have to supply most of the shoes directly! I usually wait for the suppliers to send them fresh off the assembly line. [/quote] It is nice that we have so many extra shoes. Having fresh shoes all the time seems to be working out for us. By the way, I think war is more like marbles. At the end of a game of marbles, I get to keep some of your marbles to make it even harder for anyone to beat me and even harder for you to come back and take my marbles. Is there anything we can't learn from kids' games? For example, musical chairs teaches children that in the real world there simply aren't enough chairs. You can't get kids worrying about that soon enough, in my opinion.

[quote name='corps' timestamp='1298930419' post='2647070'] This war is a lot like tag in that ... and tag is a great game to play! When was the last time you played tag?! I played it just now with myself because I was reminded of it, but it's much funner with more people I heard. Who else likes tag? [/quote] War is like tag, if in tag you could hit people with rocks and if when they lost they had to give you their gym shoes to make sure they couldn't run as fast the next time they play.

[quote name='The Pansy' timestamp='1298930333' post='2647063'] Issue is, CSN Goose is old, that meat is going to be tough and taste terribad. [/quote] Yes, but his liver is well marinated. That's why I'm up for foie gras.

[quote name='KOwens06' timestamp='1298930134' post='2647058'] I want to play! If Goose gets to chase the guy around and smack him with that cane of his.... <3 canes Also, CSN I support you no matter what! [/quote] It's funny when Goose hits people with his can, cuz then he falls over. Contrary to popular belief, he doesn't carry a cane because he's old. It's because on leg is shorter than the other. Also, only one of his feet are webbed, so when he swims he can only go in a circle. Also, to stay on topic, *shakes fist at DT and tells them to get off his lawn, but to put grass seed on first and only the older kids can spread the seed*

[quote name='Caliph' timestamp='1298929918' post='2647051'] Only if I can eat the turkey later. mhmmm, baked Turkey, throw in some stuffing, on man, delicious. [/quote] Goose is so much better. You get Goose to overeat until his liver gets damaged and turns really sweet. Foie gras is the best, man. And the great part is our Goose will overeat with you forcing him to do so. Oh, and we're really upset about this whole war thing, blah, blah, blah.