http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,572305...test=latestnews

The link, as of this posting, is a little behind. an interview on MSNBC with someone from the base said there were 3 suspects..the shooter is dead. all three suspects were US Soldiers and wearing Army uniforms

Shooter was said to be a US Army Major

E: ( @ my typo in the topic

I've been watching this on CNN. Very troubling news to say the least. I wonder what on earth the motive was.

Obama is giving a speech on TV right now. not quite sure what they expect the poor guy to say

Have the Fox News commentators jumped to conclusions yet and blamed Obama for a potential terrorist attack?

I think its best you leave out the damn jokes and be serious. No one is blaming Obama for this attack.

I fail to see how political opinion or bias have anything to do with this situation, 12 people are dead 31 are injured and no one knows why. To try and bring politucally biassed bull into it is beyond low. Edik, I think its time you stop talking.

It's early yet, and I'm serious about that. There will be some scumbag somewhere who will.

Also, I'm rather dumbfounded by this. But I can't help but think of Full Metal Jacket.

CNN keeps saying "Main shooter had an arabic sounding name"

Well, looks like one of the shooters is named Malik Hassan, so it seems true.

And edikroma is right. For an incident this big, there will be scapegoating and blame, and heavy criticism of whatever actions Obama/[insert politician here] does or doesn't take. I'd call it a 50% chance that Fox News will either run something blaming this on Obama, or something implying his handling of the incident has let down America.


edit: Major Malik Nadal Hasan.

Major Malik Nadal Hassan, age 39, is an alleged shooter.

Huh, kind of high-ranking for this sort of thing. You'd expect maybe some PFCs who snapped after getting deployed for the umpteenth time, not an officer climbing the military ladder.

Do you even watch fox news or are you just listening to your other liberal friends, i highly doubt anyone will blame obama for this random/terrorist attack ( we dont know if it was yet).

I'm not trying to bring politucally biassed [sic] bull into this. I'm just wondering if the media has picked up the story and started to run with it. Seriously...how long do you think it's going to be before CNN, MSNBC, FOX, etc start jumping to conclusions about the incident? How long before the media itself starts pointing fingers?

Come on, guys...don't be so naive. If this had happened during Bush's term (remember Fort Dix?), the media would have done the same... just the sides would have switched.

Early report/rumor is that he was about to be deployed again and not happy about it.

It's just a ploy by Obama and his goons to take our attentions off of the health care bill; nothing more.

No, I doubt there will be direct blame. That's why I mentioned blame for handling. Did Obama mention the shooting in his speech early enough? What did he say beforehand, is he implying that was more important than this tragedy? Did he respond quickly enough in the first place? How was the scheduling for the speech? And so on.

Tragedies = political footballs. It's been a fact since even before 9-11. I would be delighted if this was untouched by such things, I'm just too cynical to believe it'll happen.

Wouldn't be surprised. It happened at the "Soldier Readiness Facility"

Source

edit - nevermind. if i hang out here i'll call someone an idiot and get banned. i'll just leave my avatar and go on my merry way.

hi lamuella.

Senji, you're my new friend, come to #ARES, #TCU, or #UINE some time and hang with us XD


Edit: Dont edit your post the second I reply to it you jerk!!!!

Major Malik Nadal Hasan...what do you think the motive was

my guess is he was motivated by latent racism. No, wait, that's just you.

Officers in the US military are terrorists?

That's a surprisingly radically left-wing position for you to take.

I agree with Lamuella here, There is no grounds to say anything about who someone is because of their name, religion, or race.


Though actions are a great indicator of a person's personality.

the guy recently converted to islam so who knows

CNN just said he was about to be deployed to Iraq and that he was recently promoted to Major in March

Also, i r teh dum..how high up the ladder is "major"

And that's the sound of my point flying over your head. It's difficult to hear though, since it is partially drowned out by the sound of your racism.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States...r_rank_insignia

Has a table of CO rank listings.

one rung up from captain, one down from lieutenant colonel

Holy !@#$! Never thought of it that way. His name is all we need!

Absolutely despicable. I am glad they shot that mother$%&@er Nidal Malik Hasan and I hope justice will be dealt with an iron fist towards any accomplices.

This makes me extremely angry.

It's worth noting that he's a Medical Doctor which is surprising in itself I suppose, but also that he entered the service at an advanced rank (typically 0-3, I think) and wouldn't have gone through the same military training, etc, that line officers do.

That's true, the specialties get a boost coming in. I think one of the rumors is that he was a psychiatrist.

he was a psychiatrist, as it happens, a profession that has a fairly high incidence of mental illness.

Was the statement this was responding to racist or racialist?

I don't want to speculate on motive without an investigation, however I see two possible motives, either mental illness of some sort (PTSD, etc.) which a psychiatrist could definitely experience, especially because their job is to sit down and listen to all the !@#$ our soldiers must go through. The other motive is, either way, some deep hatred towards the military.

the statement was:



Judging someone's motives because they have a surname that reveals their racial or religious background is fairly prejudiced.

Color and colour are spelled differently, but they have the same meaning.

A military man had a mental breakdown at a bad moment when he had access to weaponry, it looks like. A sad day, but I doubt there's really any major motive to go digging for.

Except that racist and racialist are spelled differently and have a different meaning.

At least, that is how I understand it. They are, in fact, two different words. (Color and colour are the same word.)

(Not meaning to split grammatical hairs, but the difference is important.)

I don't know. That's why I said I wondered what it could be. Speculation at this stage is pointless.

Typical liberal calling their opponents racist. TRY AGAIN

Typical conservative confusing socialists with liberals.

Everyone I know here (as in, in my area/neighborhood) is extremely conservative, like, moreso than Hannity conservative, and they are even saying that that statement was racist. TRY AGAIN.

Edit: Changed "your" to "that" as it was not your statement.

he's not the one who made the statement about the guy's name.

That's pretty despicable.

I'm sure that Barack Hussein Obama is also a terrorist. I mean, his father was a muslim and he has a dictator for a middle name. Watch out, Pentagon - he's gon go APE!@#$!

My mistake, I did attribute that to him, which is unfair, Revision: they said that the statement made about his name was racist.

Thanks for pointing that out, else I wouldn't have noticed.

Some would argue he already has

Ah, here is your chance then. Prove how the statement isn't racist.

It is a terrible incident, and condolences go out to the families of the slain soldiers in the shooting. Perhaps more psychologists (not psychiatrists, they're mostly useless and provide only meds) are needed here at home near the army bases to assist soldiers with the problems they acquire from serving overseas, in order to prevent any such military mental breakdowns in the future. It wouldn't be the first time an ex-soldier went ape!@#$, though, and that is unfortunate and indicative of the lack of mental health care for soldiers in our army.

Who were his two accomplices? He didn't do this alone. Were they other soldiers?

Maybe if he picks up an assault rifle and shoots a few dozen people.

"also"?

in addition to who?

(or would that be whom?)