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Thorgrum
On the contrary, I am curious about this book as it seems to relate to Obama's father. The article proclaims:

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While he said his work, "Nairobi to Shenzhen" is a fictional account, it started off nearly 10 years ago as an autobiography and "reflects many experiences in my own life as a child brought up in Kenya" including a troubled relationship with his father.


I am genuinely interested in this, as well as what others think the ramifications of this book will be (if any). I am hopeful that the "he isnt a U.S. citizen crowd" comes out in full force here, as well as other conservative posters to denonuce and or otherwise belittle his heritage (Im thinking the "his father is a muslim" angle).

Or anyone who wants to venture beyond that and discuss any real impact on public perceptions of Obama from the subject matter of the book, and its author I would enjoy reading those replies the most. Thanks in advance !

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Obama's brother emerges in China with novel
By James Pomfret James Pomfret
Wed Nov 4, 1:19 am ET

GUANGZHOU, China (Reuters) – President Barack Obama's half-brother made a rare appearance on Wednesday in southern China, his home for seven years, to launch a novel he says draws on his painful childhood under an abusive father.

Mark Okoth Obama Ndesandjo -- who had the same, late, father as the President -- has kept a low public profile since reports surfaced last year that he was living and working in the southern Chinese capitalist and manufacturing haven of Shenzhen, around an hour's train ride from Hong Kong.

After repeatedly shunning media attention, Ndesandjo's first major public appearance to launch his debut novel comes less than two weeks before the U.S. president travels to China for the first time.

While he said his work, "Nairobi to Shenzhen" is a fictional account, it started off nearly 10 years ago as an autobiography and "reflects many experiences in my own life as a child brought up in Kenya" including a troubled relationship with his father.

"My mother used to say of my father, he's a brilliant man but a social failure," Ndesandjo told reporters at a press conference in Guangzhou, near his adopted city of Shenzhen.

"I remember times in my house when I would hear screams and I would hear my mother's pain." His American mother Ruth was his father's third wife.

"My skin had turned hard emotionally for so many years because of what I'd seen my mother go through," said Ndesandjo, who is slim and bears an appearance similar to the president.

Ndesandjo's book details how the protagonist, David, made an improbable journey to China in 2001 just after the September 11th attacks, inspired by his "growing love for a beautiful Chinese woman and a young orphan," and reflects Ndesandjo's own marriage to a young Chinese woman and his charitable work for Chinese orphans.

He was less forthright about his relationship with his famous brother, however, saying that they are in touch and an upcoming autobiography, for which he still hasn't found a publisher, would give a fuller account of their family background and ties.

"We're family, I love my family," said the crew-cut Ndesandjo, who wore a burgundy bandana and professes a love for the piano, Chinese calligraphy and classic works of Chinese literature.

"I was so proud of my brother Barack," he said of his sibling's becoming the first African-American U.S. president.

At a news conference in which he would only take five written questions drawn from a box, he avoided any mention of politics or U.S.-China relations but said Americans could learn from China's culture and deep-rooted family ties.

"China is about family ... there is a tremendous, wonderful sense of family here."

Ndesandjo gave a sense of his personality quirks and a latent flamboyant streak during the conference. He sprinkled his answers with references to Tolstoy and the Chinese literary classic "A Dream of the Red Mansion," also speaking of passion for music as a "universal language."

Reporters shown a video of a piano performance by the diamond-earring wearing Ndesandjo, in which he tickled the ivories for a catchy tune "Viper's Drag" by Fats Waller.

The book, whose cover depicts a dead tree against a red background, will donate 15 percent of its proceeds to charity.

"I wanted to be known as a writer, not for my relationship to the President," said Ndesandjo, who speaks with an American lilt.


Source: http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20091104/stage_...mabrother/print
Lamuella
this thread is now about dinosaurs. What's your favorite dinosaur?
Thorgrum
QUOTE (Lamuella @ Nov 4 2009, 02:22 PM) *
this thread is now about dinosaurs. What's your favorite dinosaur?


Clever! was it a full 2 minutes for this or did you manage it in under 60 seconds?

In 60 seconds you could have ignored the post completely.

this thread is now about personal responsibility and intelligence, how intelligent and personally responsible are you? cool.gif
Lamuella
that's a good question. Myself, I have always like the allosaurus.

Iosif Moldov
China?

OH MY GOD OBAMA'S FAMILY IS MAOIST (MAYBE MAO IS EVEN HIS FAVOURITE PHILOSOPHER)

e: Also personally, I prefer hadrosaurs

Katsumi
Cool story, bro. I'm not sure why this sort of thing is debate material, but it's interesting to find out that Obama has a brother in China of all places.

Also my favourite dinosaur is the Funkasaurus Rex.

Bob Janova
Obama's half brother isn't really relevant to anything.
Decomposition
QUOTE (Lamuella @ Nov 4 2009, 08:22 AM) *
this thread is now about dinosaurs. What's your favorite dinosaur?



The Microraptor is the bestest.

Also, my dad could completely beat up your dad.
magicninja
Ummm says the book is FICTION so I guess that means it means nothing.
Flatlander
We'll never have a Presidential brother to top Billy Carter:

Lamuella
QUOTE (Flatlander @ Nov 4 2009, 09:36 AM) *
We'll never have a Presidential brother to top Billy Carter:



Roger Clinton came pretty close
Flatlander
QUOTE (Lamuella @ Nov 4 2009, 06:46 AM) *
Roger Clinton came pretty close

He would have had his own alcoholic beverage too, but marketers decided that "Get Roger'd" would never fly with the FCC ....
Iserlohn
QUOTE (Lamuella @ Nov 4 2009, 06:46 AM) *
Roger Clinton came pretty close


Or their far lesser known, decidedly more funky brother George Clinton.
Lamuella
QUOTE (Iserlohn @ Nov 4 2009, 10:52 AM) *
Or their far lesser known, decidedly more funky brother George Clinton.


definitely our funkiest vice president ever

(unless you count Joe Biden)
edikroma
How many half-siblings does this guy have?!

Also, favorite dinosaur:


And favorite presidential sibling:
NewPoseidon
Here's my favorite dino:



from encyclopedia Britannica:
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Native to the jungles of the Nixonsic Era, the Henricus Kissingicus is a pale-skinned omnivore which walked on two legs, weighing between 150-200 pounds. Archeologists believe the vocal cords of the Kissingicus uttered deep, low-toned calls which it utilized to immobilize it's prey. While an effective hunter, the Kissingicus found itself hunted to extinction by another predator the jungle: the gorilla. Rumored sightings of the Kissingicus around the swamps of Washington D.C. abound, but scientists have found no concrete proof of the the creature's survival.
Carrick
What does the fact that his half-brother wrote a work of fiction have any bearing on Obama?

You're reaching at this point Thorgrum. No one particularly cares about what his brother did.

As for me I prefer this:

Lamuella
QUOTE (Carrick @ Nov 4 2009, 11:44 AM) *
What does the fact that his half-brother wrote a work of fiction have any bearing on Obama?


it has exactly the same amount of significance as Karl Rove's adoptive father being a gay body piercing fetishist. In other words none at all.
Ethan Smith
QUOTE (Lamuella @ Nov 4 2009, 04:52 PM) *
it has exactly the same amount of significance as Glenn Beck's rape and murder of a girl in 1990. In other words none at all.
Sargun
I heard some fellow raped and murdered a girl in 1990. Why has nobody mentioned it yet?

(Utahraptor, here)
flak attack


I love dinosaurs.
CzarGarrett
Raptor Jesus all the way.



Also, more than a few people have had abusive fathers. That doesn't make this guy special.
Simon De Montfort
So I'm confused. Is this thread saying that Obama's father is a Chinese Dinosaur?
shoe the fifth
QUOTE (Simon De Montfort @ Nov 4 2009, 05:53 PM) *
So I'm confused. Is this thread saying that Obama's father is a Chinese Dinosaur?

a muslim chinese dinosaur.
Lamuella
QUOTE (Simon De Montfort @ Nov 4 2009, 12:53 PM) *
So I'm confused. Is this thread saying that Obama's father is a Chinese Dinosaur?


it would be about as accurate as half the rumors that circulated about him.
Sargun
QUOTE (shoe the fifth @ Nov 4 2009, 11:54 AM) *
a muslim chinese dinosaur.

a muslim communist chinese dinosaur.
Lamuella
QUOTE (Sargun @ Nov 4 2009, 12:57 PM) *
a muslim communist chinese dinosaur.


a muslim communist fascist chinese dinosaur.
President Nevik
QUOTE (Lamuella @ Nov 4 2009, 01:00 PM) *
a muslim communist fascist chinese dinosaur.

A Muslim Communist Fascist, Racist, Dinosaur.

Also this:
Lamuella
QUOTE (President Nevik @ Nov 4 2009, 02:12 PM) *
A Muslim Communist Fascist, Racist, Dinosaur.


A Muslim Communist Fascist, Racist, atheist, kenyan Dinosaur.
Edward Cullen
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