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Sir Paul
An Annoucement from Athens



Recently, Cortath, Emperor of the New Pacific Order, issued a very kind proclamation announcing our recent ascension to a score of 20 and that we did this while in the middle of the war, claiming that war against Athens is responsible for our growth. While we would love to take credit for such an amazing feat, it was, as usual, Vladimir who correctly identified our success as he noted in his shortest speech on record (not even 150 words).

QUOTE (Vladimir)
It is not so much war that is responsible for growth, but rather the paradigm of Athens.


Indeed, our paradigm of score first has allowed us to participate in the war, claim the glory and spoils, without the pesky risk of actual damage to our nations.

First, let us review who the Pacificans were targeting: Over the course of the war, the New Pacific Order launched only 25 offensive wars against Athens. While the Pacificans removed sanction from all they focused upon, Emperor Revenge all but ignored the Athenian front, sending his forces to fight Ragnarok, Viridian Entente and Ordo Verde.

One might ask why the Greeks were ignored, and the answer is plain as day: we ignored them! During the four months of the Karma war, Athens launched 318 offensive wars. Nearly half of those wars (147) were in the first month of war, meaning that we spent the next three months in minor skirmishes while we built up our score. The paradigm of Athens is that there really is no point in fighting if our allies will do it for us. Take, for instance, Ragnarok, who took the brunt of Pacifican fury; they continually had both numerically and proportionally more of their offensive war slots engaged against the Pacifican Army than Athens did. Let us review some snapshots of offensive wars against Pacifica from June 25 through the end of the war:


June 25, 2009
Ragnarok: 86 offensive wars or 9.52% of available slots
Athens: 6 offensive wars or 0.86% of available slots

June 28, 2009
Ragnarok: 89 offensive wars or 9.04% of available slots
Athens: 9 offensive wars or 2.38% of available slots

July 4, 2009
Ragnarok: 92 offensive wars or 9.52% of available slots
Athens: 8 offensive wars or 1.20% of available slots

July 9, 2009
Ragnarok: 86 offensive wars or 9.52% of available slots
Athens: 6 offensive wars or 0.86 % of available slots

July 14, 2009
Ragnarok: 90 offensive wars or 10.20% of available slots
Athens: 15 offensive wars or 2.19 % of available slots

July 19, 2009 - End of War
Ragnarok: 72 offensive wars or 8.60% of available slots
Athens: 7 offensive wars or 1.10 % of available slots

Now, one may claim that Athens did not have any nations within range of the devastated Pacificans, and indeed, the Athenian Paradigm calls for minimal engagement so that our nations are out of reach, but at the end of the war, we had over 100 nations under 15,000 national strength, well within Pacifica's wheelhouse.

To further illustrate the point, let us look at how many total wars per nation each alliance had over the course of the conflict.

As can be seen, while some alliances honorably fought Pacifica and did their share to end the conflict, others shirked their duties. While the common perception is that the Spartans were the ones who had to be goaded into fighting, the evidence clearly shows that on the Pacifican front, even they did better than the anemic performance put forth by us Athenians.

When it comes down to it, we only had two nations that bothered to fight honorably to the end of the war, and I shall take this opportunity to recognize them:

Canehda - 3 Offensive Wars/2 Defensive Wars at signing of peace terms
Dantooine Prime - 2 Offensive Wars at signing of peace terms

These nations shall received the Order of the Paradigm Breaker for having the courage to break the Athenian paradigm of growing score during a war. Members of this Order are placed under increased supervision to ensure that they follow the Athenian paradigm and not squandering Athenian resources fighting wars that others are perfectly willing and capable of doing.

While our sluffing off of martial responsibilities resulted in hundreds of Pacifican nations slipping into peace mode, allowing them to get out of anarchy, replenish their nuclear stockpiles, launch them at our allies, it did allow us to grow our score during the largest hegemonic conflict of our time.

Moving on to other methods to improve our score, I again have to thank Pacifica for first not only avoiding attacking us, but also sending us buckets of aid we so richly do not deserve. Per the instrument of surrender, Athens will be receiving 1.8 billion in cash equivalents. This is more than Sparta, FOK, MOON, LOST and DICE combined. By insisting on such a large share of the reparations, the Athenian paradigm of score improvement holds. I thank my allies for allowing me to be a lead negotiator during this conflict, as it was beneficial to all Athenians.

Regardless, I thank the Pacificans for their support during this time of 'rebuilding' and look forward to future endeavors with them.

/s/

Londo Mollari, Archon eponymos
Ninja Colt
So in short, Athens didn't do much in the war, let Pacifican nations enter peace mode, and boast about receiving the largest money reps?

Congrats.
ChairmanHal
I'm not certain what this is supposed to do, but I look forward to the conversation that follows....




EDIT: yeah I know
Ninja Colt
I also forgot to add about boasting their growths as well.
Shadow King
This should be VERY interesting. I agree with Chairman Hal, can't wait to see this conversation.
Ninja Colt
EDIT: Damn you Halloween.


Good thread Sir Paul tongue.gif
Myworld
Was this thread even needed? Bragging for doing little is not a good trait to be talking about. Makes you look like you are a bunch of pixel worshipers.
Master-Debater

Edit: :| I really hate you Sir Paul, I really really do.........

Should have realized something like this would happen eventually.
Sir Paul
QUOTE (Myworld @ Oct 30 2009, 10:16 PM) *
Was this thread even needed? Bragging for doing little is not a good trait to be talking about. Makes you look like you are a bunch of pixel worshipers.


One the contrary, I'm simply setting the record straight on the Athenian Paradigm, which was mischaracterized by Emperor Cortath in this post
Alicia
People need to look at who is posting this.
ChairmanHal
QUOTE (Myworld @ Oct 31 2009, 01:16 AM) *
Was this thread even needed? Bragging for doing little is not a good trait to be talking about. Makes you look like you are a bunch of pixel worshipers.


At some point you'll learn that this time of year, you ignore avatars and such and simply read ruler names.... wink.gif
Shadow King
QUOTE (ChairmanHal @ Oct 31 2009, 12:20 AM) *
At some point you'll learn that this time of year, you ignore avatars and such and simply read ruler names.... wink.gif


It begins to be quite funny that we all recognize Rulers by a sig or avatar
Triyun
Oh my... awesome.gif
F15pilotX
Thank you for clearing that up Londo; very insightful, as always tongue.gif
Remaliat
Good show Sir Paul
Rush Sykes
I would like to, at this time, thank New Londo for recognizing my war effort against the Pacifican menace.
F15pilotX
QUOTE (Rush Sykes @ Oct 31 2009, 01:23 AM) *
I would like to, at this time, thank New Londo for recognizing my war effort against the Pacifican menace.
Good show, good show. wub.gif
elborrador
QUOTE (ChairmanHal @ Oct 31 2009, 01:20 AM) *
At some point you'll learn that this time of year, you ignore avatars and such and simply read ruler names.... wink.gif

this man is wise ph34r.gif


thank god its almost over
Sal Paradise
How petty.



I love it.

QUOTE (Sir Paul @ Oct 30 2009, 10:06 PM) *
Canehda - 3 Offensive Wars/2 Defensive Wars at signing of peace terms


I'm not 100% sure but I think Canehda was in GR at least for the beginning of the war, and then he threw a tantrum and left. Some of those wars he fought might not have been with Athens, though I'm not sure how you've calculated this.

And that nation no longer exists, by the way.
Liluant Islands
Well Sparta didn't receive any reps so that kind of obsoletes them in saying Athens received more reps than Sparta, FOK, MOON...etc. tongue.gif
Sir Paul
QUOTE (Rush Sykes @ Oct 30 2009, 10:23 PM) *
I would like to, at this time, thank New Londo for recognizing my war effort against the Pacifican menace.

You're still on thin ice for fighting not one but two offensive wars at once Rush Sykes. Who do you think we are, FAN?
F15pilotX
QUOTE (Liluant Islands @ Oct 31 2009, 01:25 AM) *
Well Sparta didn't receive any reps so that kind of obsoletes them in saying Athens received more reps than Sparta, FOK, MOON...etc. tongue.gif
Rather, it helps validate the statement tongue.gif
Sethly
i have to take some points off for not staying in character, but overall a wonderful parody, New Londo! i continue to respect your amazing abilities in the propaganda department :-D
Shodemofi
Bahaha, well done Sir Paul. Well done. You got me until I read the replies.
Voodoo Nova
QUOTE (Shadow King @ Oct 31 2009, 01:22 AM) *
It begins to be quite funny that we all recognize Rulers by a sig or avatar


It angers me when someone switches alliances because they also change their graphic indicators....


This was well written Sir Paul.
Penguin
Athens actually had about half that many members at the start of the war. They merged somewhere towards the last month which just about doubled their size. With that in mind, I'd say their actual wars per member ratio is closer to 2.5, but I'd have to do a bit of extra legwork if you really want the actual value. Some of the other stats are inflated by member loss as well. It's still a well-written announcement as usual.
Sir Paul
QUOTE (Sal Paradise @ Oct 30 2009, 10:24 PM) *
How petty.



I love it.



I'm not 100% sure but I think Canehda was in GR at least for the beginning of the war, and then he threw a tantrum and left. Some of those wars he fought might not have been with Athens, though I'm not sure how you've calculated this.

And that nation no longer exists, by the way.


Canehda was invovled in 5 simultaneous wars at the signing of the instrument of surrender, clearly in violation of the Athenian Paradigm. He has since been convicted and drank the hemlock.

He will not be missed.
Chron
Oh wow...I have to say, Emperor Cortath, the ball is in your court now.
WorldConqueror
All hail the Athenian Paradigm! It will surely serve them well, on into the future.
Ragashingo
Well, turnabout is fair play. Nice job Sir Paul.
Rush Sykes
QUOTE (Sir Paul @ Oct 31 2009, 06:27 AM) *
You're still on thin ice for fighting not one but two offensive wars at once Rush Sykes. Who do you think we are, FAN?


MEH! I will have you know, that I fought 17 offensive wars in the Karma war! I think you should kick me from Athens!
New Frontier
This is a disgusting thread.

First you parade around your statistics like a common IC slut, then you completely ignore the greatest Pacifican of all time.
Jgoods45
This is very well written, and was a fun to read.

Where where you during the Karma War? tongue.gif
F15pilotX
QUOTE (Rush Sykes @ Oct 31 2009, 01:32 AM) *
MEH! I will have you know, that I fought 17 offensive wars in the Karma war! I think you should kick me from Athens!
ohmy.gif

What an outrage! ZI, I say, ZI! This is heinous enough to make an exception. ph34r.gif
Jack Diorno
Halloween strikes again emot-v.gif
Also, I must admit, I rejoined Athens 3 days before the war started for the the sole reason of fighting against NPO, and I didn't declare on even a single NPO nation.
Bilrow
QUOTE (New Frontier @ Oct 31 2009, 12:34 AM) *
This is a disgusting thread.

First you parade around your statistics like a common IC slut, then you completely ignore the greatest Pacifican of all time.



Depends on which definition you are using. smile.gif (OOC: Ask Rep. Grayson)
Francesca
ahahahaha!!!!! It got me!!!! I noticed further down that Sir Paul wasn't Londo. Brilliant. biggrin.gif
Sir Paul
QUOTE (Penguin @ Oct 30 2009, 10:30 PM) *
Athens actually had about half that many members at the start of the war. They merged somewhere towards the last month which just about doubled their size. With that in mind, I'd say their actual wars per member ratio is closer to 2.5, but I'd have to do a bit of extra legwork if you really want the actual value. Some of the other stats are inflated by member loss as well. It's still a well-written announcement as usual.


Of course Penguin, merging is a great way of increasing score, and a major hedgemonic conflict is the perfect time to beef up on members. Again, I simply want to set the record straight that it is not war that causes Athens to grow, but our paradigm.
Logan
Judging by this thread, I couldn't ask for better allies. Grats to RoK, VE, and OV for not only topping this list, but the list inscribed on my heart.
New Frontier
QUOTE (Bilrow @ Oct 30 2009, 11:35 PM) *
Depends on which definition you are using. smile.gif (OOC: Ask Rep. Grayson)

This is another thing I hate; those who are so childish as to engage in "halloweening", making it so confusing that nobody can tell me apart from my imposters.

At least I know I'm doing something right, since everybody hates me. smile.gif
Alicia
QUOTE (F15pilotX @ Oct 31 2009, 06:34 PM) *
ohmy.gif

What an outrage! ZI, I say, ZI! This is heinous enough to make an exception. ph34r.gif


Why would there be an exception?
Rush Sykes
QUOTE (Sir Paul @ Oct 31 2009, 06:36 AM) *
Of course Penguin, merging is a great way of increasing score, and a major hedgemonic conflict is the perfect time to beef up on members. Again, I simply want to set the record straight that it is not war that causes Athens to grow, but our paradigm.


This man has uncovered our master plan! Wait till we force MK to merge with us shortly after the next war!
Bilrow
QUOTE (New Frontier @ Oct 31 2009, 12:37 AM) *
This is another thing I hate; those who are so childish as to engage in "halloweening", making it so confusing that nobody can tell me apart from my imposters.

At least I know I'm doing something right, since everybody hates me. smile.gif

Preach it.
Sir Paul
QUOTE (Jack Diorno @ Oct 30 2009, 10:35 PM) *
Halloween strikes again emot-v.gif
Also, I must admit, I rejoined Athens 3 days before the war started for the the sole reason of fighting against NPO, and I didn't declare on even a single NPO nation.

You have learned well Jack Diorno. That is why you are among my trusted.
Locke
Sir Paul, I love you.
JackSkellington
QUOTE (Sir Paul @ Oct 31 2009, 01:36 AM) *
Snip.


As usual, I must disagree with you Londo. Your strength comes entirely from merges, as I've pointed out many times before. cool.gif
Penguin
QUOTE (Sir Paul @ Oct 30 2009, 10:36 PM) *
Of course Penguin, merging is a great way of increasing score, and a major hedgemonic conflict is the perfect time to beef up on members. Again, I simply want to set the record straight that it is not war that causes Athens to grow, but our paradigm.

It's a good paradigm; I wish I'd known about it sooner. Unfortunately, we can't all be on topiary. happy.gif
F15pilotX
QUOTE (Alicia @ Oct 31 2009, 01:38 AM) *
Why would there be an exception?
I believe the rule is no ZI'ing, so ZI would indeed be an exception, deserved by the heinous act of engaging in 17 wars. Outrageous, and a complete waste of good Athenian resources! ph34r.gif
New Frontier
QUOTE (Bilrow @ Oct 30 2009, 11:38 PM) *
Preach it.

I will, thank you. Your sarcastic banter and thinly veiled mockery of me only fuels my own feelings of moral superiority. smile.gif

It's been fun, but I must walk away, to spread my wisdom elsewhere.

Bobby Fischer
The arrogance of Athens!




Comrade, you are a master. I salute you Sir Paul.
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