AlmightyGrub
Oct 29 2009, 11:16 PM
Ursarkar E Creed was given an opportunity. He chose today to spit in the face of the Emperor of Polaris, the Emperor of Pacifica and the entire membership of both alliances. His attack today was uncalled for, stupid and irresponsible and he has subsequently been banished from several forums and IRC
Polaris is now at war with UEC and will remain so until said nation reaches ZI. All alliances are given fair warning in this matter, aiding a nation we are at war with in these circumstances will not be viewed amicably. OOC attacks on our community will not be tolerated.
o/ Polaris.
rsoxbronco1
Oct 29 2009, 11:18 PM
If I had been in as rocky a relationship with NpO as Ursarkar, I'd have steered clear by a wide margin.
SirWilliam
Oct 29 2009, 11:20 PM
Much love NpO.
Sal Paradise
Oct 29 2009, 11:20 PM
I don't know the details, but is this the good old IC response to OOC behaviour?
Fireandthepassion
Oct 29 2009, 11:20 PM
QUOTE (rsoxbronco1 @ Oct 30 2009, 12:18 AM)

If I had been in as rocky a relationship with NpO as Ursarkar, I'd have steered clear by a wide margin.
Unfortunately he isn't as smart as you Rsox.
AlmightyGrub
Oct 29 2009, 11:21 PM
QUOTE (Sal Paradise @ Oct 30 2009, 03:20 PM)

I don't know the details, but is this the good old IC response to OOC behaviour?
Zero tolerance means zero.
Gameboy
Oct 29 2009, 11:22 PM
o/
Jgoods45
Oct 29 2009, 11:23 PM
Have fun =)
Teh 1337 Guy
Oct 29 2009, 11:23 PM
Enjoy the land/tech NpO
Voytek
Oct 29 2009, 11:23 PM
This has been a long time coming.
rsoxbronco1
Oct 29 2009, 11:24 PM
QUOTE (Fireandthepassion @ Oct 30 2009, 01:20 AM)

Unfortunately he isn't as smart as you Rsox.
I'm smarter than the average bear.

Or at least not dumb enough to piss off the people who might have issues with me and are in a position to do something about it.
cookavich
Oct 29 2009, 11:24 PM
All you had to do was leave us alone, Ursy, but I guess the easy road was never your style, huh?
Sal Paradise
Oct 29 2009, 11:24 PM
QUOTE (AlmightyGrub @ Oct 29 2009, 10:21 PM)

Zero tolerance means zero.
So that's a yes?
x8BitL0gic
Oct 29 2009, 11:24 PM
I love the smell of justice in the morning.
o/ Polaris
Moridin
Oct 29 2009, 11:24 PM
We should start a tally of the number of times Ursarkar has, over the years, tried to hurt the New Polar Order. I suspect it would number more highly than just about anyone else in CN.
Penguin
Oct 29 2009, 11:24 PM
QUOTE (Sal Paradise @ Oct 29 2009, 10:20 PM)

I don't the details, but is this the good old IC response to OOC behaviour?
He's to be ZIed for attempting to hack our private IRC channels with brute force attacks. We were informed about the incident by an IRCop. This is posted in an OOC forum because the attacks skirt the line between OOC and IC, but we won't tolerate hacking of our private channels by people who have a history of mischievous behavior. We gave him a second chance after spying on our private forums; this is what zero tolerance means.
Willaim Kreiger
Oct 29 2009, 11:25 PM
To be honest we're pretty tolerant people.
Griff
Oct 29 2009, 11:25 PM
Sounds good to me, have fun.
KingSrqt
Oct 29 2009, 11:27 PM
QUOTE (Sal Paradise @ Oct 30 2009, 01:24 AM)

So that's a yes?
I am not sure what prompted this to happen but I do know that NpO had plenty of IC reason to go after him.
ddog241
Oct 29 2009, 11:28 PM
give him hell
o/ Polar
D34th
Oct 29 2009, 11:28 PM
QUOTE (Penguin @ Oct 30 2009, 02:24 AM)

He's to be ZIed for attempting to hack our private IRC channels with brute force attacks. We were informed about the incident by an IRCop. This is posted in an OOC forum because the attacks skirt the line between OOC and IC, but we won't tolerate hacking of our private channels by people who have a history of mischievous behavior. We gave him a second chance after spying on our private forums; this is what zero tolerance means.
Listen this man, everything have a limit. Our patience is over.
rsoxbronco1
Oct 29 2009, 11:29 PM
QUOTE (Sal Paradise @ Oct 30 2009, 01:24 AM)

So that's a yes?
Would you prefer they go after him OOC for his OOC attacks? I'm not sure what you want.
EDIT: must...remember...to finish...sentences
Sal Paradise
Oct 29 2009, 11:30 PM
QUOTE (Penguin @ Oct 29 2009, 10:24 PM)

He's to be ZIed for attempting to hack our private IRC channels with brute force attacks. We were informed about the incident by an IRCop and it earned him a Coldfront ban. This is posted in an OOC forum because the attacks skirt the line between OOC and IC, but we won't tolerate hacking of our private channels by people who have a history of mischievous behavior.
Oh I see. Well, good luck as you endeavor to prevent future [alleged] hacking attempts by this fellow. His technology isn't very high. No doubt he used some fairly crude means.
QUOTE
We gave him a second chance after spying on our private forums; this is what zero tolerance means.
Oh yes, that's the textbook definition of zero tolerance.
Moridin
Oct 29 2009, 11:31 PM
QUOTE (Sal Paradise @ Oct 29 2009, 10:24 PM)

So that's a yes?
If you want to argue about the IC/OOC line, then I would consider vital alliance communication channels, both IRC and forums, to be at least to some extent in the IC realm; compromising their security on several occasions culminating in this evening is essentially an attack on the alliance. I would say there are both IC and OOC components to this, and that our tolerance of Ursarkar up to this point has been extremely high - for example, he received only one week of war after spying on us for an extended period of time. The fact that we are at the end of our rope should not surprise anyone.
Penguin
Oct 29 2009, 11:34 PM
QUOTE (Sal Paradise @ Oct 29 2009, 10:30 PM)

Oh I see. Well, good luck as you endeavor to prevent future [alleged] hacking attempts by this fellow. His technology isn't very high. No doubt he used some fairly crude means.
I guess that's why the IRCops caught him.

QUOTE (Sal Paradise @ Oct 29 2009, 10:30 PM)

Oh yes, that's the textbook definition of zero tolerance.
Oh you. To clarify, Grub's statement upon his release from our target list after the last spying incident was that we would operate under a zero tolerance policy towards Ursarkar in the future.
Hydro
Oct 29 2009, 11:36 PM
[OOC]Hackers always have to ruin the game for everyone else -.- [ooc]
Good luck Polaris.
Laserwolf
Oct 29 2009, 11:37 PM
Good hunting and enjoy the spoils! Why people would try to do these types of things is beyond me.
Locke
Oct 29 2009, 11:39 PM
A fair response. It puzzles me that Ursarkar would continue to be so provacative though, despite (certainly) knowing what would follow. Most curious indeed.
Ursarkar E Creed
Oct 29 2009, 11:41 PM
I honestly have no idea what's going on.
I OOC attacked no one and haven't even been on IRC for most of the god damn day.
Grub, would you mind telling me what I've done because I have no idea.
I was also banned from IRC for Hacking exploits which I've never even attempted before.
I honestly think someone is framing me for this, I'd like to see some god damn proof instead of you people just saying I did it.
Penkala
Oct 29 2009, 11:42 PM
QUOTE (Ursarkar E Creed @ Oct 30 2009, 01:41 AM)

I honestly have no idea what's going on.
I OOC attacked no one and haven't even been on IRC for most of the god damn day.
Grub, would you mind telling me what I've done because I have no idea.
I was also banned from IRC for Hacking exploits which I've never even attempted before.
Just like you never spied on Polar, right?
Ursarkar E Creed
Oct 29 2009, 11:45 PM
QUOTE (Penkala @ Oct 30 2009, 04:42 PM)

Just like you never spied on Polar, right?
You're going off-topic, I honestly have no idea what's happened.
If I did, I would apologise, but I truly have no idea what's going on.
Moridin
Oct 29 2009, 11:47 PM
QUOTE (Ursarkar E Creed @ Oct 29 2009, 10:45 PM)

You're going off-topic, I honestly have no idea what's happened.
If I did, I would apologise, but I truly have no idea what's going on.
I suspect you would continue to deny it even if we presented the evidence, as you would otherwise need to admit you lied when you denied everything, so I am not sure what the point of telling you even is.
Suffice to say that if we were merely carrying out an old grudge, we would've simply sentenced you to more than one week of war to begin with after you left NPO.
Kevin McDonald
Oct 29 2009, 11:48 PM
QUOTE (Ursarkar E Creed @ Oct 30 2009, 01:45 AM)

If I did, I would apologise,
Now that doesn't make sense. If you did it, then you meant to do it, and your apology is worthless. If you didn't do it, you have nothing to apologize for.
Sal Paradise
Oct 29 2009, 11:48 PM
QUOTE (Ursarkar E Creed @ Oct 29 2009, 10:41 PM)

I honestly have no idea what's going on.
I OOC attacked no one and haven't even been on IRC for most of the god damn day.
Grub, would you mind telling me what I've done because I have no idea.
I was also banned from IRC for Hacking exploits which I've never even attempted before.
I honestly think someone is framing me for this, I'd like to see some god damn proof instead of you people just saying I did it.
You've been accused of hackery. And in the great words of NotAdolfHitler, all those that hack forums should go outside and fight a bear. That bear is the NpO apparently, and you've been dragged outside against your will. Hopefully with your nation in ruins you will no longer be able to [allegedly] hack.
Penkala
Oct 29 2009, 11:48 PM
QUOTE (Ursarkar E Creed @ Oct 30 2009, 01:45 AM)

You're going off-topic, I honestly have no idea what's happened.
If I did, I would apologise, but I truly have no idea what's going on.
I'm pointing out that your credibility is shot from when you lied about doing something against Polar before to avoid the consequences. Nobody believes you, UEC. You've proven that you can't be trusted, at all.
Locke
Oct 29 2009, 11:49 PM
QUOTE (Ursarkar E Creed @ Oct 30 2009, 01:41 AM)

I honestly have no idea what's going on.
I OOC attacked no one and haven't even been on IRC for most of the god damn day.
Grub, would you mind telling me what I've done because I have no idea.
I was also banned from IRC for Hacking exploits which I've never even attempted before.
I honestly think someone is framing me for this, I'd like to see some god damn proof instead of you people just saying I did it.
Ordinarily, I think Polar would take your word for it. I would as well. However, they have evidence that you have done so from an IRCop, and coupled with your response to the last incident (claimed you did not spy until the very end), makes it much harder to take your word at face value.
Ursarkar E Creed
Oct 29 2009, 11:51 PM
QUOTE
I think I now what's happened.
Earlier, did your channel have me trying to join it an enormous amount of times?
If so, it was a custom IRC Companion that I'd put in about 9 months ago.
When I turned remote on for using slap scripts in another channel is must've activated and when I got logged out it must've tried to join all of my old channels.
If this is the case, I am indeed truly sorry for it, it was in no way a hack or or exploit, it was me forgetting to get rid of the companion when I was no longer using it.
I think that may have been the problem for me, the IRC companion turned on when I turned remote on so the slap scripts could work.
If it wasn't this, then I have no idea how what happened.
Fireandthepassion
Oct 29 2009, 11:52 PM
QUOTE (Ursarkar E Creed @ Oct 30 2009, 12:45 AM)

You're going off-topic, I honestly have no idea what's happened.
If I did, I would apologise, but I truly have no idea what's going on.
And we'd call baloney on your apology just like we did when you spied on us.
cookavich
Oct 29 2009, 11:52 PM
QUOTE (Sal Paradise @ Oct 30 2009, 01:48 AM)

You've been accused of hackery. And in the great words of NotAdolfHitler, all those that hack forums should go outside and fight a bear. That bear is the NpO apparently, and you've been dragged outside against your will. Hopefully with your nation in ruins you will no longer be able to [allegedly] hack.
He won't be able to hack our private channels now that he's been banned from Coldfront for hacking. Not allegedly hacking.
QUOTE
[14:19] * Ursarkar has quit IRC (User has been banned from Coldfront (Violation of network Trust, hacking activities, malicious use of the network.))
Ursarkar E Creed
Oct 29 2009, 11:53 PM
Please read above in my latest post, I think I've found the problem.
Grumpdogg
Oct 29 2009, 11:55 PM
I can't wait for another half-baked apology.
Ursarkar you obviously just want your name in lights, well here it is again. I hope this is enough attention to keep you going for a while.
PS: cool story/stories/male bovine dung bro
AlmightyGrub
Oct 29 2009, 11:56 PM
Comrades,
I have no intention of discussing the matter any further, this was merely a heads up as I can see multiple foreign aid agreements with UEC. Members of Polaris, arguing with a liar serves no purpose, he will do what he is best at, and it serves no purpose.
Enjoy the ride UEC, you obviously wanted it to be so.
Alicia
Oct 29 2009, 11:57 PM
UEC, you apparently squandered your second chance.
Polar, your actions seem fair.
Ursarkar E Creed
Oct 29 2009, 11:57 PM
See, you claim you are tolerant people, yet you will not let me defend myself.
I actually now know that the IRC Companion that I hadn't used in a while was the problem and am now attempting to get into contact with the IRC Admins.
I'm sorry if it went haywire on channels, but yours wasn't the only channel it tried to join.
Sal Paradise
Oct 29 2009, 11:57 PM
QUOTE (cookavich @ Oct 29 2009, 10:52 PM)

He won't be able to hack our private channels now that he's been banned from Coldfront for hacking. Not allegedly hacking.
Problem solved!
cookavich
Oct 30 2009, 12:00 AM
QUOTE (Sal Paradise @ Oct 30 2009, 01:57 AM)

Problem solved!
Not quite. Give it three more weeks.
D34th
Oct 30 2009, 12:00 AM
QUOTE (Sal Paradise @ Oct 30 2009, 02:57 AM)

Problem solved!
Do you have a better suggestion for this matter or your only purpose is act like a idiot?
AlmightyGrub
Oct 30 2009, 12:00 AM
QUOTE (Ursarkar E Creed @ Oct 30 2009, 03:57 PM)

See, you claim you are tolerant people, yet you will not let me defend myself.
I actually now know that the IRC Companion that I hadn't used in a while was the problem and am now attempting to get into contact with the IRC Admins.
I'm sorry if it went haywire on channels, but yours wasn't the only channel it tried to join.
I warned you last time it was zero tolerance from here. You quack like a duck BTW.
Ursarkar E Creed
Oct 30 2009, 12:01 AM
Well, I'm having more trouble than first intended finding an Admin without access to IRC.
If Werewolf hadn't hastily banned me I could've given my side and found a way to remove the companion, but I guess you guys once again don't want to listen.
Also, Grub. I fail to see how this is my fault. It was simply a mistake that was made by my scripts which I had forgotten to remove and you're using any excuse to put me down for it.
Jack Diorno
Oct 30 2009, 12:01 AM
QUOTE (Ursarkar E Creed @ Oct 30 2009, 04:57 PM)

See, you claim you are tolerant people, yet you will not let me defend myself.
I actually now know that the IRC Companion that I hadn't used in a while was the problem and am now attempting to get into contact with the IRC Admins.
I'm sorry if it went haywire on channels, but yours wasn't the only channel it tried to join.
See guys, he accidently tried to obtain the founder password for #polaris using brute force methods.
It was an accident.
An accident.
Accident.
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