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Joken
Nov. 10th people, CoD MW2 hits stores! Whos buying and playing over live?
Itsuki Koizumi
this is like honestly the 3rd thread on MW2. I might get it but since the removal of dedicated servers on PC, i probably won't
Moridin
Not buying it. L4D2 demo is coming out soon, though!
Joken
Does the L4D 2 demo allow you to play online?
ty345
QUOTE (Joken @ Oct 28 2009, 04:58 PM) *
Does the L4D 2 demo allow you to play online?

Of course it would. It's L4D, what else would there be?
Joken
Well I thought maybe it would have just a few moments from the first lvl.
Shinpah
QUOTE (Joken @ Oct 30 2009, 10:00 PM) *
Well I thought maybe it would have just a few moments from the first lvl.


Yes and no

L4D2 demo is the 1st two levels of the last campaign, which you can either do solo or campaign

That's it though
N Reeki
QUOTE (Shinpah @ Oct 30 2009, 09:17 PM) *
Yes and no

L4D2 demo is the 1st two levels of the last campaign, which you can either do solo or campaign

That's it though


When's it coming out? I wanna give it a whirl.
Shinpah
If you preorder L4D2 now, it's 45$ instead of 50$; the demo comes out to the public on November 3-5th, preordering gives access to demo.
I can say that the gameplay is mostly unchanged, the graphics have been optimized, and the weapon sounds are much tighter/better

Also wrong thread for this :3
theArrowheadian
QUOTE (Shinpah @ Oct 30 2009, 10:15 PM) *
If you preorder L4D2 now, it's 45$ instead of 50$; the demo comes out to the public on November 3-5th, preordering gives access to demo.
I can say that the gameplay is mostly unchanged, the graphics have been optimized, and the weapon sounds are much tighter/better

Also wrong thread for this :3


except you're paying the pre-order price.
Biohazard
How do you gain access to the demo, though?

I've had the game pre-ordered for a while now, but I still have no idea how to get the demo. tongue.gif
Shinpah
QUOTE (Biohazard @ Oct 31 2009, 01:04 PM) *
How do you gain access to the demo, though?

I've had the game pre-ordered for a while now, but I still have no idea how to get the demo. tongue.gif


It should be under My Games unsure.gif
Biohazard
QUOTE (Shinpah @ Oct 31 2009, 07:08 PM) *
It should be under My Games unsure.gif

How does it get there though? mellow.gif

Also, Hi Shinpah wub.gif
Bob Ilyani
Buying it for ps3.
N Reeki
It's hitting stores on the 20th, correct? Or am I wrong?

Either way, getting it for PC. I wanna see this beauty on my 15 inch Hannspree monitor.
Heyman
QUOTE (N Reeki @ Nov 1 2009, 09:18 AM) *
It's hitting stores on the 20th, correct? Or am I wrong?

Either way, getting it for PC. I wanna see this beauty on my 15 inch Hannspree monitor.


Eww...
Itsuki Koizumi
QUOTE (N Reeki @ Nov 1 2009, 10:18 AM) *
It's hitting stores on the 20th, correct? Or am I wrong?

Either way, getting it for PC. I wanna see this beauty on my 15 inch Hannspree monitor.

10th i believe
N Reeki
QUOTE (Heyman @ Nov 1 2009, 11:19 AM) *
Eww...

This is the first Call of Duty game I've gotten for a PC since Call of Duty 2. MW and WaW were both on my PS3.

I want this on my PC, dangit!
Heyman
QUOTE (N Reeki @ Nov 1 2009, 11:28 AM) *
This is the first Call of Duty game I've gotten for a PC since Call of Duty 2. MW and WaW were both on my PS3.

I want this on my PC, dangit!


There's no benefit to having it on PC anymore, save for better graphics and better precision.
Biohazard
QUOTE (Heyman @ Nov 1 2009, 08:18 PM) *
There's no benefit to having it on PC anymore, save for better graphics and better precision.

How does the PC version have better precision over a controller? You're more likely to miss-press your buttons when on a keyboard.

Not to mention, a controller fits better in your hands.
Foggers
I think I may prefer keyboard to console controller.

However for CoDMW2 I shall make an exception. May invest in the thing which makes it more precise. If I can find it all again.
Renolds
QUOTE (Biohazard @ Nov 1 2009, 08:36 PM) *
How does the PC version have better precision over a controller? You're more likely to miss-press your buttons when on a keyboard.

Not to mention, a controller fits better in your hands.

You would have to be quite the noob to press the wrong button on a keyboard.

Biohazard
QUOTE (Renolds @ Nov 1 2009, 10:14 PM) *
You would have to be quite the noob to press the wrong button on a keyboard.

PC has more noobs than console. Console players are generally younger, though.
Colonel Radec
QUOTE (Biohazard @ Nov 1 2009, 04:18 PM) *
Console players are generally younger, though.


And that in a nutshell is why consoles fail. 14 year old whiners will at some point ruin your gaming experience. At least on PC you are able to find a server with decent people instead of being matchmade into them.

Biohazard
QUOTE (Colonel Radec @ Nov 2 2009, 12:19 AM) *
And that in a nutshell is why consoles fail. 14 year old whiners will at some point ruin your gaming experience. At least on PC you are able to find a server with decent people instead of being matchmade into them.

I take that offensively, being Fourteen years of age.

Although, I'm not as stupid as the 9 year olds that play. tongue.gif
Heyman
QUOTE (Biohazard @ Nov 1 2009, 02:36 PM) *
How does the PC version have better precision over a controller? You're more likely to miss-press your buttons when on a keyboard.

Not to mention, a controller fits better in your hands.


I'd have to say, my mouse fits perfectly in my hands, and my keyboard feels as though it's designed for my hands to use them!

...oh, wait.

A ) Multi-tasking actions.
B ) Greater range of sensitivity. Pulling an instant 180 is a must on a computer FPS.
C ) More buttons mean more actions.

In any case, the difference between the console version and the PC version is really moot now, since Console Players are all limited to the same controller anyways. Personally, I don't care which version I play if there are no feature differences aside from the controller/keyboard&mouse
Audeamus
QUOTE (Biohazard @ Nov 1 2009, 03:36 PM) *
How does the PC version have better precision over a controller? You're more likely to miss-press your buttons when on a keyboard.

Not to mention, a controller fits better in your hands.


Well if you're missing buttons on a keyboard/mouse setup, I think it's time to change the control layout (another thing you can do on PC but not on consoles), to one that is easier to manage. Like 'nades in CoD2. Using the G button was horrible for me, so I switched it to the mouse wheel click. Instant win. And the aforementioned ability to 180 with a mouse. Flipping round and no scoping someone is always fun.

Not that I'll be getting it for the PC anyway. dry.gif
theArrowheadian
The Killstreak list was allegedly leaked:

3 Kills -- UAV
4 Kills -- Care Package
4 Kills -- Counter UAV
5 Kills -- Sentry Gun
5 Kills -- Predator Missile
6 Kills -- Precision Airstrike
7 Kills -- Strike
7 Kills -- Attack Heli
8 Kills -- Emergency Airdrop
9 Kills -- Pave Low
9 Kills -- Stealth Bomber
11 Kills -- Chopper Gunner
11 Kills -- AC-130
15 Kills -- EMP
25 Kills -- Tactical Nuke
Audeamus
Nukes? Really? I'd love to know how that would play out.
Biohazard
QUOTE (Audeamus @ Nov 2 2009, 03:52 AM) *
Nukes? Really? I'd love to know how that would play out.

Kill everyone on the map, (enemies only?..)

with lasting fall-out & radiation?
HHAYD
QUOTE (Biohazard @ Nov 1 2009, 02:36 PM) *
How does the PC version have better precision over a controller? You're more likely to miss-press your buttons when on a keyboard.

Not to mention, a controller fits better in your hands.

Computer mouses > all other console controllers. It's way easier to point the gun at something using a mouse instead of one of those plastic roller things on the console controllers.
Audeamus
QUOTE (Biohazard @ Nov 1 2009, 10:16 PM) *
Kill everyone on the map, (enemies only?..)

with lasting fall-out & radiation?


Well I should hope it would be like claymores in CoD4 and only be able to kill enemies. Otherwise, using it in Hardcore modes would just be silly.
mastab
QUOTE (theArrowheadian @ Nov 1 2009, 06:45 PM) *
The Killstreak list was allegedly leaked:

3 Kills -- UAV
4 Kills -- Care Package
4 Kills -- Counter UAV
5 Kills -- Sentry Gun
5 Kills -- Predator Missile
6 Kills -- Precision Airstrike
7 Kills -- Strike
7 Kills -- Attack Heli
8 Kills -- Emergency Airdrop
9 Kills -- Pave Low
9 Kills -- Stealth Bomber
11 Kills -- Chopper Gunner
11 Kills -- AC-130
15 Kills -- EMP
25 Kills -- Tactical Nuke

I really don't like the idea of giving players who are already doing well advantages that will make them do better.
Audeamus
QUOTE (mastab @ Nov 1 2009, 10:56 PM) *
I really don't like the idea of giving players who are already doing well advantages that will make them do better.


So you'd rather people get death streaks? Get killed 10 times in a row without killing anyone, get a bomber?
Colonel Radec
The tactical nuke kills everybody on the map including the player who launched it and then the match ends. That's what the Call of Duty wiki says. It also has a lot of spoilers so don't venture to it if you aren't prepared to read things.
Audeamus
QUOTE (Colonel Radec @ Nov 1 2009, 11:08 PM) *
The tactical nuke kills everybody on the map including the player who launched it and then the match ends. That's what the Call of Duty wiki says. It also has a lot of spoilers so don't venture to it if you aren't prepared to read things.


Well that's no fun, I was hoping for awesome mutations and stuff. emot-v.gif

Seems like a kinda silly thing. If the teams are equal, and the scoring system is similar to CoD4's, you'll lose as many points as you gain by killing all of your own teammates. Though I suppose it could be good if you're winning and the other team is on the verge of passing you by.
theArrowheadian
QUOTE (Audeamus @ Nov 1 2009, 11:13 PM) *
Well that's no fun, I was hoping for awesome mutations and stuff. emot-v.gif

Seems like a kinda silly thing. If the teams are equal, and the scoring system is similar to CoD4's, you'll lose as many points as you gain by killing all of your own teammates. Though I suppose it could be good if you're winning and the other team is on the verge of passing you by.


Well if one guy is getting 25 kills I'm sure it's pretty safe to say that the game should end.
Biohazard
QUOTE (theArrowheadian @ Nov 2 2009, 08:45 AM) *
Well if one guy is getting 25 kills I'm sure it's pretty safe to say that the game should end.

Games will be ending quite a lot on my account then... sleep.gif
N Reeki
Actually, due to copyright infringements, the Call of Duty Wiki is taking down all leaked info, which included the article on No Russian.
ty345
QUOTE (Biohazard @ Nov 2 2009, 07:38 AM) *
Games will be ending quite a lot on my account then... sleep.gif

Keep in mind, this is 25 kills per 1 life. You'd most likely run out of ammo before you managed to pull that off tongue.gif
Lavo_2
QUOTE (ty345 @ Nov 2 2009, 10:03 PM) *
Keep in mind, this is 25 kills per 1 life. You'd most likely run out of ammo before you managed to pull that off tongue.gif

Bandoleer (sp?). Also, single shots and snipers. Plus airstrikes and helis. I've gotten past 20 a bunch of times, even 30 and 40.
Biohazard
QUOTE (ty345 @ Nov 3 2009, 04:03 AM) *
Keep in mind, this is 25 kills per 1 life. You'd most likely run out of ammo before you managed to pull that off tongue.gif

It's rather easy to do that?

Just pick up another gun. And, it's Bandolier, Lavo. tongue.gif
Heyman
QUOTE (Biohazard @ Nov 2 2009, 11:32 PM) *
It's rather easy to do that?

Just pick up another gun. And, it's Bandolier, Lavo. tongue.gif

Exactly. Also, just pick up an m14 and you're set on ammo. 2 shots = death.
Guffey
25 killstreaks are not that tough. just call in you previous chopper or airstrike at the begining of you next life, that adds to you killstreak, then you get them again, while shooting people with your rifle still.

and m16 silenced is the way to go. 1 burst =death
Biohazard
lolm16noob.

True players use the AK-47 or the M4A1. Red Dot/Silenced.

The only time I use an M16, silenced, is when I play Hardcore S&D.
Guffey
i only play Hardcore, but with my m16, ill wip up on anyone around. AK-47 is a crappy gun, not very accurate at all, m16 is dead on, and the burst keeps all your bullets going into the place your shooting.

EVen on HC TDM ill use it, with deadly silence, uav jammer and claymors. I like to not be seen, cover my back with a claymore and pick people off. Also love flanking the enemy spawn and ripping them apart from their own side. I never play in a server with more than 30 people, to crazy, not enough individual stragedy.
Guffey
http://forums.bestbuy.com/t5/Gaming/Call-o...ript/td-p/67692

Best Buy Q&A session with Infinity Ward.


Some responses that show how they further destroyed this game.

QUOTE
Mackey-IW: The max number of players on all platforms are 1v1 through 9v9. This is the number of players we focused on when we were balancing map size, perks, classes, challenges, etc.


max 9v9.. for a PC FPS game, come on.

QUOTE
Mackey-IW: IWNet matches players together based on several factors including ping and skill. After players are matched, the most suitable host is determined. That player hosts until they quit, at which time hosting responsibilities will normally migrate to another player without interrupting the match.


QUOTE
kaRMa: Please give me a direct answer. On the PC version. Are all games hosted by players, and is there a 5 second delay when host migration is in effect?

Vince-IW: yes.


host migration as shown in released videos, also verifies that IWnet will be P2P not on servers.

QUOTE
Laugh: Is there a console in the PC version of the game, so we can change our field of view from the xbox's default 65 FOV to 80 also can we tweaks the weapon damage for each gun, removes perks, graphical debris, breathing sway, also thru console like we where able to before or is this all gone?

Vince-IW: We would like you to play the game the way we designed and balanced it.


ie: No Console for commands, no tweaking.

QUOTE
TheNinthAxis: Is there lean in PC multiplayer.

Vince-IW: No.

zach426: What was your guy's logic behind removing the lean feature for PC, a feature that was a mainstay from all of your previous call of duty titles?

Mackey-IW: The game is not balanced for lean.



No lean in an FPS, um thats retarded, and the reason being Balance??? umm, how does a lean effect game balance?


QUOTE
Mackey-IW: The CoD4 maps were not balanced for 32vs32. In MW2 the entire experience is carefully balanced for a smaller range of players.


Who are you to tell us how top play the game.

QUOTE
Moriarte: Ignoring IW.net, is the PC version a direct port of the console version?

Mackey-IW: No, PC has custom stuff like mouse control, text chat in game, and graphics settings.


thats the only difference? That = port.

QUOTE
LaGgY_42o: What kinds of pings did you get during your IWNet testing and what do you say is an acceptable ping?

Mackey-IW: I've been playing mainly with around 100ms ping and it was great.


100 ping primarily? Way to high for competitive gaming.

QUOTE
frzg: Is there a /record feature? Answer yes... please. We're trying to give you a 'chance'

Vince-IW: no


No record?? Are these guys really that stupid in making this game.

These are just more blows to the PC community and to this game. It will not be a competitive game, with no lean, high pings, no records, no console commands, maximum of 9v9's, Its just ridiculous. Where they even THINKING about this game when they made it?
N Reeki
All I can say to this is:

facepalm.gif

Regardless, I'll still buy it, if only for the signleplayer.
Kaiser
Yes, they were thinking of the game. Most people play Cod on a console, so they spent their time developing it for that, rather than the PC gamers that are a minority.

Also

QUOTE
Who are you to tell us how to play the game

The maker of the game obviously lol.
Sargun
I've seen players with 60 ping have more lag than players with 300 ping. 18 players on any multiplayer map is a good size. Those 32 and 46 man servers and !@#$ are way too large and are dominated by my idols throwing grenades everywhere. Lean isn't particularly useful, records are for ego and console commands are for people who are too picky to just play the game how it is.

Stop whining and man up.
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