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Californian
Hello, this is an official poll for the CNRP community.

It is based off the discussion found in this thread.

Your vote will only be counted if you are an RPer in CNRP and POST in this thread. I repeat, you must post for your vote to count.

Sample post:
QUOTE
CNRP POLL

Question 1: B
Question 2: E
Additional Information: I think the brackets should be ..blah..blah..blah


This is a no discussion thread, if you would like to make additional comments please post in this thread.

This poll will end on November 1st, 2009 at 5:00 EST.
Il Terra Di Agea
CNRP POLL

Question 1: B
Question 2: E
Additional Information: You already know what brackets I thought would work tongue.gif
VinceSixx
CNRP POLL

Question 1: B
Question 2: E
Additional Information: Some people are restricted to not have navies because of their alliances, and because they're freaking expensive. However, I also think that those that have already awesome navies, IE: BR, should be rewarded.
Pikachurin
CNRP POLL

Question 1: B
Question 2: E
Additional Information: N/A
HHAYD
CNRP POLL

Question 1: So, are you going to list the tech/infra bracket?
Question 2: None
Additional Information: Here are the brackets I torn from the other thread...

Infra:
QUOTE (Il Terra Di Agea @ Oct 24 2009, 01:23 PM) *
Yah, I can see a change to Infrastructure based brackets. Something like this:

0-4,000: No multiplier
4,001-5,000: x2
5,001-6,000: x3
6,001-7,500: x4
7,501-Infinity: x5


Technology/Infra:
QUOTE (Il Terra Di Agea @ Oct 24 2009, 01:23 PM) *
And maybe even toss in a tech requirement for new brackets too, something like this:


0-4,000 Infra, 0-500 tech: No multiplier
4,001-5,000 Infra, 501-1,000 tech: x2
5,001-6,000 Infra, 1,001-2,000 tech: x3
6,001-7,500 Infra, 2,001-3,500: x4
7,501-Infinity Infra, 3,501-Infinity: x5

That would probably be a bit more fair than total NS.

As for Voodoo's concern, I've got nothing, it's the same issue that would dog any multiplier put in place, and it's a good point. I guess it would have to be up to everyone else to decide if the trade off is worthwhile


NS:
QUOTE (Il Terra Di Agea @ Oct 24 2009, 12:36 AM) *
Alright, I'm going to throw this idea out. I do not do this because it's the best idea, or because it's something I'll fight for, but because it's an idea, and it exists, and maybe someone else can turn it into something wonderful.

Graduated Multiplier for navies.

You have brackets based on NS, where, every time you enter the bracket, you can use the multiplier of the bracket. There would only be a few set brackets to make sure multipliers don't get too huge, or too complicated and easy to misinterpret (Like the old Log based tech scale). I'm thinking the best way to do it would be something like this.

0-20,000: No multiplier
20,001-25,000: x2
25,001-35,000: x3
35,001-50,000: x4
50,000-Infinity: x5

That keeps it so no one gets too ridiculous in their navies (I'm going to guess that V the King has the largest navy of anyone in CNRP, and his in game navy is 70, meaning his multiplied would be 350 less than the number of large ships in the Soviet navy during WWII so not all too absurd for one of the most powerful nations in the RP, especially considering the nigh constant war we have). This would also make sure that no one goes insane and gets thousands of ships, but at the same time, you get more realistic numbers. There could, of course, be multiplier brackets higher than the 50,000-infinity cutoff, but it really doesn't seem necessary, because it would just serve to make numbers way too big. Then just add to this the current "The navy is the base number, it is how many ships total, not what kinds of ships" system, and you get a little dash of increased realism.

Once again, this isn't me oretending I'm all knowing, and think this is the best, most fool proof plan. It's just a thought.
Vedran
LOL POLL

Question 1: B
Question 2: E

Additional information: The base number should be decided by technology and infrastructure (but if people want to use the ingame number, that takes precedence), and also each ship should be assigned a value so people can exchange the "points" on one ship by trading it for something else, like if someone doesn't want one of their aircraft carriers they can exchange it for a few corvettes.
Generalissimo
Question 1: A [ NO]
Question 2: C [Nation Strength, rather number of ships in game]
Additional Information: Unavailable
Pravus Ingruo
Question 1: B
Question 2: F

The only reason I say F is because I frankly don't care if it's based off of Infra or NS. It does need to be expanded, however.
N Reeki
Q1: A
Q2: E
Additional comments: I am not worthy to bask in the glory that is Ty.
Drakedeath
Question 1: B
Question 2: D
Question 3: Slightly Awesome
Additional Information: I agree with the above information.
Sargun
A, F, I am not worthy.

Additional Information: Navies have always worked fine they way they are. What's next - nobody needs to have nukes in-game either?

KISS.
Sarah Tintagyl
With Sargun on this one...

A
F: I've saved up and waited for a long time to be able to have access to a navy and never complained. I think it should be something to strive for, not just give away.

Ty, you're only slightly awesome
Cody Seb
B, E and I am not worthy.
Voodoo Nova
Question 1: B
Question 2: F
Additional Information: No Multiplier needed. Navy is fine as needed.
Justinian the Mighty
Question 1: A
Question 2: F, cause 51 (or whatever) ships is a respectable size for a navy, even a superpower.
Question 3: None of the above tongue.gif
Additional Information: Ty is my man slave.
Subtleknifewielder
Question 1: B
Question 2: E
Question 3: Slightly Awesome
Additional Information: None at this time

iKrolm
Question 1: B
Question 2: E
Additional Information: Highest multiplier shouldn't be more than 3x.
Biohazard
Question 1: B
Question 2: E
Question 3: Ty's a biased little !@#$%^&. wub.gif
Botha
Question 1: A (no)
Question 2: F (other, as in no modifiers)
Additional Information: no surprise here I oppose anything not based on IG stats. KISS
Tahsir Re
Question 1: A
Question 2: D
Additional Information: Only slightly awesome, for starting this poll you lost some awesome emot-v.gif
Imperator Azenquor
CNRP POLL

Question 1: B
Question 2: D
JerreyRough
Question 1: B
Question 2: E
Additional Information: I meant to doE, but did F. D: Also, Il Terra Di Agea's brackets were good.
king of cochin
CNRP POLL

Question 1: B
Question 2: D
Lynneth
No,
Infra and Tech IF it gets implemented,
only slightly awesome
Centurius
CNRP Poll

Question 1: B
Question 2: E
Question 3: I am not worthy
Additional Information:
Executive Minister
[B]
[C]
Very Awesome

Additional: Multipliers seem reasonable to make more realistic ship numbers, however there should be a clause where if one chooses to keep IG = IC that their ships are more effective, ie: Quality over quantity.
KaiserMelech Mikhail
QUOTE (Generalissimo @ Oct 28 2009, 02:11 AM) *
Question 1: A [ NO]
Question 2: C [Nation Strength, rather number of ships in game]
Additional Information: Unavailable

Ditto, I chose A and C.
freakwars
Question 1: A
Question 2: D
Additional Info: Very Awesome
iamthey
Option 1: A
Option 2: C
Additional Information: Extremely Awesome tongue.gif

Change my vote to A; no change.
Kaiser Martens
I really just like navies the way they are.

The only thing I'd change is to let navyless nations have one (And only one) Light Cruiser or
submarine just to give more people a chance to RP navies. For the rest of the nations, it'd also be +1 ship.

Oh and, only nuclear capable nations should be able to have nuclear powered ships.
Lavo_2
Q1: A
Q2: D

freakwars
QUOTE (Kaiser Martens @ Oct 28 2009, 08:16 PM) *
Oh and, only nuclear capable nations should be able to have nuclear powered ships.

But with the way tech levels are currently, anybody can have nuclear reactors, because they were made before the cold war.
Californian
Freakwars,

QUOTE (From OP)
This is a no discussion thread, if you would like to make additional comments please post in this thread.
JEDCJT
Q1: B (actually, I accidentally clicked on the first option because I thought it was a 'Yes'. facepalm.gif)
Q2: E
Marquis Chris 1
CNRP POLL

Question 1: B
Question 2: D
Additional Information: I am not worthy to be in your presence... tongue.gif
freakwars
QUOTE (Californian @ Oct 28 2009, 08:27 PM) *
Freakwars,

Sorry.
Angela Spencer
A, F, slightly awesome.




Californian
Voting has closed.
Maelstrom Vortex
CNRP POLL

Question 1: A
Question 2: F
Additional Information: I'm a traditionalist. I think no change is required.
Drakedeath
QUOTE (Maelstrom Vortex @ Nov 3 2009, 09:11 AM) *
CNRP POLL

Question 1: A
Question 2: F
Additional Information: I'm a traditionalist. I think no change is required.


/Drakedeath points at the post stating "Poll Closed"
Maelstrom Vortex
I was a little slow in responding.. I know it makes no difference.. I voiced my thoughts anyhow. Any poll that doesn't give folks time to respond isn't worth considering anyhow. A poll like this should be up at least.. oh.. 20 days.. to a month to ensure everyone gets an opportunity for input. Otherwise.. it's just a 'special interest group' drive by shooting at game policy. A week is the duration of most vacations.
Drakedeath
QUOTE (Maelstrom Vortex @ Nov 5 2009, 11:30 PM) *
I was a little slow in responding.. I know it makes no difference.. I voiced my thoughts anyhow. Any poll that doesn't give folks time to respond isn't worth considering anyhow. A poll like this should be up at least.. oh.. 20 days.. to a month to ensure everyone gets an opportunity for input. Otherwise.. it's just a 'special interest group' drive by shooting at game policy. A week is the duration of most vacations.


... facepalm.gif
A week is plenty of time to click on a thread and type 20 words.
Subtleknifewielder
QUOTE (Drakedeath @ Nov 5 2009, 04:49 PM) *
... facepalm.gif
A week is plenty of time to click on a thread and type 20 words.

It is not if you have no computer access... tongue.gif
Centurius
QUOTE (Subtleknifewielder @ Nov 6 2009, 02:05 AM) *
It is not if you have no computer access... tongue.gif


Enough people who are out for internet of months, should we keep polls for a year then? A week was enough time especially looking at the amount of votes that came in
king of cochin
So the votes are in and let us take the tally.

This is the poll result

Should RP navies be expanded from the current IG=RP rule?

QUOTE
[A] NO [ 18 ] ** [36.73%]
[B] YES [ 31 ] ** [63.27%]
How should a RP nation's naval size multiplier be determined?
[C] Nation Strength [ 6 ] ** [12.24%]
[D] Infrastructure [ 10 ] ** [20.41%]
[E] Infrastructure AND Technology [ 22 ] ** [44.90%]
[F] Other (please explain) [ 11 ] ** [22.45%]
How awesome is Ty?
Slightly awesome. [ 31 ] ** [63.27%]
Very awesome. [ 4 ] ** [8.16%]
Extremely awesome. [ 4 ] ** [8.16%]
I am not worthy. [ 10 ] ** [20.41%]


And this is the actual vote as posted by members:

A - 14
B - 16
C - 4
D - 7
E - 12
F - 7

From this it must be gathered that Option B and Option E gets carried, ie, RP navies should be expanded and both Infra and Tech as according to ITDA's suggestion is to be followed,ie,

QUOTE
0-4,000 Infra, 0-500 tech: No multiplier
4,001-5,000 Infra, 501-1,000 tech: x2
5,001-6,000 Infra, 1,001-2,000 tech: x3
6,001-7,500 Infra, 2,001-3,500: x4
7,501-Infinity Infra, 3,501-Infinity: x5


Subtleknifewielder
QUOTE (Centurius @ Nov 6 2009, 06:39 AM) *
Enough people who are out for internet of months, should we keep polls for a year then? A week was enough time especially looking at the amount of votes that came in

If they're out of touch for months...they usually get wiped anyway. A week is different for obvious reasons.

Look, I voted differently than Maelstrom, but I still advocate his right to cast that vote.
Sargun
QUOTE (Subtleknifewielder @ Nov 6 2009, 01:52 PM) *
Look, I voted differently than Maelstrom, but I still advocate his right to cast that vote.

Americans only have a few hours of a day to vote in far more important things. There was a deadline, he missed it.
Subtleknifewielder
QUOTE (Sargun @ Nov 6 2009, 12:32 PM) *
Americans only have a few hours of a day to vote in far more important things. There was a deadline, he missed it.

No, we don't. We have at least a month to vote. It's all absentee ballots now--no polls. tongue.gif
comrade nikonov
so my navy is now x3? BS.
Sargun
QUOTE (Subtleknifewielder @ Nov 6 2009, 02:38 PM) *
No, we don't. We have at least a month to vote. It's all absentee ballots now--no polls. tongue.gif

Unfortunately, there are no absentee ballots. This was a direct vote with a direct deadline. He missed it. Too bad.
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