So i wonder what you think guys ,
will their be a next big war and when?
Who will be involved?

Fail Poll is Fail. Missed Teen Titans out

The only bloc listed that may not get involved is Citadel, and that opinion is based mostly on the reluctance of some parties within that bloc to get involved in a fight if they don't absolutely have to.

I can think of a couple of different scenarios that would have very different results in the participatory category. I don't think we've ever had this many splits that could actually lead to a war existing independently at the same time.

I can't see why there are so many "between now and the new year". Sure, it's possible we'll see a war, but a BIG war, that soon? With no visibile open hostilities on anything other than semantics? Seems like we'll have to wait longer to me. Also, inb4vfabic

Missing the obvious Leo and Stickmen.

who is Below ?

http://cybernations.wikia.com/wiki/Below

Thats easy. The NPO is no longer the focal point of a massive treaty web. This new worlds web is just as complex, but with no central focal point there isn't any risk of pissing off friends of friends of friends that might result in a one or two alliance beatdown. This mighy embolden some alliances to play a 50/50 hand.

Also, its not like there are fewer alliances that want to kill each other in our Post Karma world. Just because they sorta fought on the same side last time doesn't mean they will again, or that they even liked each other. As we found out post war, common enemies made for strange bed fellows, but didint result in marriages.

Thats not to say there WILL be a large war coming soon. But the powder keg has never been more unpredictable.

Everyone will participate, and it's happening tomorrow.

It's hard to say. There's many more potential splits, as the world is not so bipolar. There aren't as many aggressive alliances likely to start wars, as Hegemony did, especially when the fall-out is very unpredictable given the complex relations going on. The defender also has a significant advantage because it's allies are basically obligated to come in, while the attackers allies are not. It would take a combination of a very solid CB (generally rare), an attacker willing to use it, and an attacker knowing he has a good chance of winning which is hard when the treaty web is so interconnected. It's hard to tell if and when that might happen.

Where is Stickmen?

This is correct. The 50/50 roll stops being a 50/50 roll once acted upon in the current environment.

I'll predict 12-24 months until the next major war. Over/Under is 18 months.

EDIT: Further, I don't think CBs will even come into play. Even with the very solid CB, risk aversion will give the defender the advantage, unless everyone backs away for a curbstomp. A very solid CB in the current environment will create a curbstomping.

Before the new year. Stickmen are rolling Poseidon. You heard it here first, folks.

Poll would be better if you asked who initiated the conflict, not which blocs would be involved. If its a 'big war', most blocs will be involved.

I would say Spring but since its already Spring right now, i don't see any major wars happening,

It won't happen till next year, but sometime next year, something will happen. It always does.


Also, all the blocs will be involved, as they usually are. The ones who are on that list, but might be broken up by that time, will have alliances that were in the bloc, in the war, so are technically a part of the war.

I don't really understand why Frostbite is up there..
Unless TE alliances can attack CN alliances now.
Did I miss the memo?

where is PWNAGE?

oh wait, they'll be involved no matter what.
even if there is no big war.

Frostbite, contrary to popular belief, is also a bloc in CN standard.

Because TOP just loves their stats.

Joking aside, I think the Great Purplol War will take place sometime in December.

-Bama

Oh god no. I never have time in December to wage long time warfare. It needs to start in November else I have to hippy it out

I predict a Karma 2.0 Global War before New Years Eve

We should create a rule that the surrender terms of the most recent "big war" should expire before people complain of militaristic blue balls.

Frostbite is a bloc involving NpO/STA/NSO. It is in SE.

It's a bloc between NpO, NSO, STA and tLC. tLC faded from existence about a month ago, ruining dozens of frostbite sigs in the process.

Including Below, Bastion and Chestnut was more than a little redundant given the massive overlap with SuperFriends.

I voted before New Year's, but it's probably wishful thinking.



That's a dumb rule, seeing as the purpose of terms is often to keep an alliance out of the next big war.

The next great war will probably be between WOLF and LBA.

The war will come soon (by New years), and the sides are already starting to clear up. As they say, the lines are being drawn.

Or erased in some cases

Below is a lol bloc. I don't think it's even called that, they just wouldn't give a name so it got landed with that; it was announced as 'fake Bastion' as two fingers to Sponge who'd just leaked the idea through his Vox website.

As for the main question of the thread, I'm with Azaghul. The situation is still complex and there's various points of tension, but at the moment I can't see which one of those will come to war. That means that war is at least a couple of months away, but that fits with all the categories you gave, so I really can't vote at all.

And yeah, it's almost a certainty that every major bloc will participate, due either to treaty obligations or strategic considerations, just like in most wars throughout history. Perhaps one or two will find a way to stay out; no-one's really sure how a multipolar world works in terms of the strategic considerations, and we don't have a precedent to see how they might behave.

In spite of the meme, TOP betrays Grämlins because they get tired of having to hit ALT+0228 every time they type out that alliance name to get the ä thingy.

TOP and Grämlins then toss a coin to see which alliance gets to go first in choosing up sides.

As part of a secret term from the Karma War, NPO has to be chosen last.

You heard how it all breaks out, warfans! Now go out there and buy your nukes!

Right on

But in all seriousness, I doubt there will be a big war anytime soon and by that I mean not until at least next year

truth be told, i could not care who fights who, as long as they hurry and get it started.

i miss the days when wars could happen within a heart beat and there was all this, who will fight with who crap, you had a beef you went and sorted it out.

So I heard the next big war would be Frostbite, C&G, and Citadel rolling Superfriends?

lol, Wouldn't that be something eh?

Eh, I see the next big war happening before new years, I have no idea who would be involved though, as there seems to be so many potential conflicts right now. All I can really say is that most of C&G and our direct allies seem to be growing quite rapidly compared to the other sides of the web, the longer it takes the better for us.

C&G + Stickmen to roll purple in January '10

Looks like everyone guessed wrong!

http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=72272

edit; spelling is good.

January, Rev? I'm bored NOW, is the waiting really necessary?

I remember planning this, though the date was flexible. I suppose they have decided on a solid date by now.

Also, lack of Stickmen in the poll was disappointing.

Between now and the spring but i voted for between now and New years because i couldn't vote for between now and spring. Also everyone will be involved in some way or another its a question of were the front lines will be and which blocs will try to remain on the sidelines of whatever the conflicts are.

I wish I had seen this earlier. :lol:

-Bama

LEO bro, you forgot LEO.

There are tensions in several different places at the moment. There could be a massive war involving CDT, there could be a massive war as a result of orange tensions, and if it's the latter CDT will probably be involved anyway. I think this will likely come to fruition by the end of the year, but perhaps it could take until January or February. Difficult to predict now, but people will get bored over the holidays.

The War of the Coalition happened and people said a major war would not come again. They were wrong. I see no reason why they won't be wrong again now.

It's probably got something to do with people hating on TOP and TSO.

Only two posts before the TOP-bashing started? Awesome.

I'm predicting an Aqua civil war. How exciting - and frightening - that would be.

I think that's incredibly unlikely.