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kitex
I just like to bring up that, from what I've heard, a lot of wars sometimes go into OOC banter with people being accused of god-modding and the like (eg Dranagg's invasion of the Netherlands) and I'd just like to know who, if any would support the following rule:

Before a war gets fully underway, the participating nations should find an active member of CNRP that both parties agree on (the ref is 100% unbiased) and then the war can get underway. The ref will monitor the war (possibly via tracking the thread) and if any arguing begins, they shall then fully review the situation and then intervene. If both parties still do not agree on the ruling of the referee, then an RP Mod shall be bought in to say the final word on the argument.

If any of you want to provide constructive sugguestions to make this rule better, I am 100% open to it.
Voodoo Nova
QUOTE (kitex @ Oct 24 2009, 10:03 AM) *
I just like to bring up that, from what I've heard, a lot of wars sometimes go into OOC banter with people being accused of god-modding and the like (eg Dranagg's invasion of the Netherlands) and I'd just like to know who, if any would support the following rule:

Before a war gets fully underway, the participating nations should find an active member of CNRP that both parties agree on (the ref is 100% unbiased) and then the war can get underway. The ref will monitor the war (possibly via tracking the thread) and if any arguing begins, they shall then fully review the situation and then intervene. If both parties still do not agree on the ruling of the referee, then an RP Mod shall be bought in to say the final word on the argument.

If any of you want to provide constructive sugguestions to make this rule better, I am 100% open to it.


I think this is one of the reasons for GMs.
Acca Dacca
Mr Kitex,

Although I do agree with your proposal, this is a reason for Gms and the majority of conflict should be decided by players.
Tahsir Re
I've seen the use of these "Fight Referees " before. It works out to even more complaints, accusations of bias, and more trouble than they solve. Basically imagine all the problems people have with GMs, but then multiply it by a thousand.
Subtleknifewielder
QUOTE (Tahsir Re @ Oct 24 2009, 10:22 AM) *
I've seen the use of these "Fight Referees " before. It works out to even more complaints, accusations of bias, and more trouble than they solve. Basically imagine all the problems people have with GMs, but then multiply it by a thousand.

Yes, but if the people agree on a neutral referee, then they have no one to complain to but themselves, actually.
Drakedeath
QUOTE (Subtleknifewielder @ Oct 24 2009, 11:13 PM) *
Yes, but if the people agree on a neutral referee, then they have no one to complain to but themselves, actually.


But everyone who reads the thread or is involved later on suffers as a result.
Subtleknifewielder
QUOTE (Drakedeath @ Oct 24 2009, 03:14 PM) *
But everyone who reads the thread or is involved later on suffers as a result.

Care to elaborate? I'm not quite sure I follow your logic. negotiations can take place via irc or PM's, you know, not necessarily in the thread.
Drakedeath
QUOTE (Subtleknifewielder @ Oct 24 2009, 11:23 PM) *
Care to elaborate? I'm not quite sure I follow your logic. negotiations can take place via irc or PM's, you know, not necessarily in the thread.


I mean their whining will ruin the thread.

Example.

QUOTE
OOC: You can't do that!

QUOTE
OOC: Yes I can.

QUOTE
OOC: I'll get a war ref on it.

QUOTE
OOC: He can do that.

QUOTE
OOC: OMFG! BIAS!

QUOTE
Insert 6 pages of whining.
Centurius
They pay GMs enough let them have some work too tongue.gif
Biohazard
QUOTE (Subtleknifewielder @ Oct 24 2009, 11:13 PM) *
Yes, but if the people agree on a neutral referee, then they have no one to complain to but themselves, actually.

No one is going to use that logic when they're going into an OOC fight.
Subtleknifewielder
QUOTE (Centurius @ Oct 24 2009, 04:53 PM) *
They pay GMs enough let them have some work too tongue.gif

Wait, they pay GM's now? I never saw a single cent...I need a new lawyer.

QUOTE (Biohazard @ Oct 25 2009, 01:12 PM) *
No one is going to use that logic when they're going into an OOC fight.

That's what mods are for, to tell them to take it to this forum... biggrin.gif
Biohazard
QUOTE (Subtleknifewielder @ Oct 25 2009, 09:22 PM) *
Wait, they pay GM's now? I never saw a single cent...I need a new lawyer.


That's what mods are for, to tell them to take it to this forum... biggrin.gif

Your assuming the forum users are going to be sensible about it.
Subtleknifewielder
QUOTE (Biohazard @ Oct 25 2009, 03:15 PM) *
Your assuming the forum users are going to be sensible about it.

No, I'm assuming there will be enough who have the sense to alert a mod to an out of control argument.
Tahsir Re
QUOTE (Subtleknifewielder @ Oct 25 2009, 06:19 PM) *
No, I'm assuming there will be enough who have the sense to alert a mod to an out of control argument.



The idea you're suggesting, has been the death stroke of every RP community I have ever been a part of. The RP did not improve, OOC grudges got deeper and wider, and the rest of the people got sick of the constant complaints.


In short, its only good on paper. Never for actual use.
Subtleknifewielder
It is a shame that people can't put OOC aside, isn't it?
Tahsir Re
QUOTE (Subtleknifewielder @ Oct 26 2009, 01:02 PM) *
It is a shame that people can't put OOC aside, isn't it?




Until we are replaced with paid professional roleplayers (I'm worried that they might actually exist...) ooc will always be a part of RP. Its a community of people, people don't all get along with each other.
Subtleknifewielder
An unfortunate fact of life. If people did get along...I doubt these forums would exist. tongue.gif
Sarah Tintagyl
QUOTE (Tahsir Re @ Oct 26 2009, 07:49 PM) *
Until we are replaced with paid professional roleplayers (I'm worried that they might actually exist...) ooc will always be a part of RP. Its a community of people, people don't all get along with each other.


!@#$%^&* stealing our jobs... dry.gif
HHAYD
QUOTE (Sarah Tintagyl @ Oct 26 2009, 03:35 PM) *
!@#$%^&* stealing our jobs... dry.gif

But the Admin loves us because we don't demand any pay, right?
Subtleknifewielder
QUOTE (HHAYD @ Oct 26 2009, 04:27 PM) *
But the Admin loves us because we don't demand any pay, right?

Wrong...he uses us as guinea pigs for his own evil experiments... ph34r.gif

Anyway, I think this thread has run its course. I'm not the OP, but I can suggest that this thread be closed by one of admin's minions (AKA the Mods tongue.gif).
Centurius
QUOTE (Subtleknifewielder @ Oct 27 2009, 03:10 AM) *
Wrong...he uses us as guinea pigs for his own evil experiments... ph34r.gif

Anyway, I think this thread has run its course. I'm not the OP, but I can suggest that this thread be closed by one of admin's minions (AKA the Mods tongue.gif).


I don't think the great gods like the name minions.
Subtleknifewielder
QUOTE (Centurius @ Oct 27 2009, 06:43 AM) *
I don't think the great gods like the name minions.

Oh, relax, we all know it's true... tongue.gif

Nah, rather, we all know I'm only joking.
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