hormones74
Oct 23 2009, 07:24 PM
How important is an alliance's theme?
Jack Diorno
Oct 23 2009, 07:25 PM
Athens gained Banned Member because of our theme. sigh.
Vilien
Oct 23 2009, 07:28 PM
On a scale of 1 to Not At All, I think I'd go with Not At All.
lebubu
Oct 23 2009, 07:41 PM
I didn't join MK when it was formed because of its theme.
wickedj
Oct 23 2009, 07:41 PM
Answer is C, its always C
ModusOperandi
Oct 23 2009, 07:55 PM
Very, without that initial attraction you can't make much of a connection.
Drai
Oct 23 2009, 08:09 PM
Depends on the situation. Attracting experienced players, it's not very important. I didn't join MK because of the "mario" theme at all. However new players might find this attractive and apply solely based on that.
Nintenderek
Oct 23 2009, 08:11 PM
To most old timers, it's not that important at all. However, in the grand scheme of things, it can help recruiting, because it can rally in more people who are new to the game.
Lord Boris
Oct 23 2009, 08:12 PM
Firstly, I think there is a distinction between theme and culture. Theme is not important. You can have a successful group without a theme. If you lack some type and some level of a culture, you'll never have an interesting community, and you will fail.
karthikking
Oct 23 2009, 08:14 PM
Sparta. 300=recruiting godsend
Locke
Oct 23 2009, 08:15 PM
Have a theme? Good. Don't have one? Also good. Both can be made to work, as Lord Boris said, it's the culture of an alliance that really dictates if it lives or dies. Themes are nice, and they do indeed help attract new players, but that's not really a determinant of how well the alliance will fare and can be done without quite handily.
WolfsPride
Oct 23 2009, 08:22 PM
Me being a LOVER of Wolves, Wolfpacks Theme was perfect for me. My wife is Cherrokee and our house is decorated with wolf stuff. We even have a Wolf
Arrnea
Oct 23 2009, 08:22 PM
The Answer is clearly 42, 15,498 or 15,532.
Mathias
Oct 23 2009, 08:37 PM
As long as it's not a Star Wars theme, your alliance is on the fast track to the it list.
-Bama
Voodoo Nova
Oct 23 2009, 08:41 PM
Theme isn't that important, but it can help create the unique culture of your alliance.
Asriel Belacqua
Oct 23 2009, 08:56 PM
A theme for an alliance simply makes it easier to create a culture. Sometimes.
There is no "need" for a theme in an alliance, it's the culture that matters, especially with older nations. However, having a theme can make it easier to develop a culture (as most people who join will already have something in common other than being humans, or AI bots, whichever the case may be...), but sometimes you don't need to make it easier.
King Xander the Only
Oct 24 2009, 02:23 AM
QUOTE (Lord Boris @ Oct 23 2009, 07:12 PM)

Firstly, I think there is a distinction between theme and culture. Theme is not important. You can have a successful group without a theme. If you lack some type and some level of a culture, you'll never have an interesting community, and you will fail.
I agree with this. Culture is important, and most themes are lame anyway (and I know something about lame themes).
HellAngel
Oct 24 2009, 02:54 AM
A theme is only important for making unfunny jokes and annoying announcements including it, so not very much imo.
Ephriam Grey
Oct 24 2009, 03:06 AM
QUOTE (Lord Boris @ Oct 23 2009, 10:12 PM)

Firstly, I think there is a distinction between theme and culture. Theme is not important. You can have a successful group without a theme. If you lack some type and some level of a culture, you'll never have an interesting community, and you will fail.
This.
Personally I feel theme and culture are both rather important. Those are the qualities I look for on a game when I look for an alliance.
Lord Rune
Oct 24 2009, 05:04 AM
I'd say the theme is only important so you can make announcements with lots of references to your theme. It might encourage new players to join. But as time goes on, its the culture that becomes more important, and the relationships you forge with other alliance members.
LJ Scott
Oct 24 2009, 07:32 AM
I chose my alliance based on the fact I like a RP an umbrella.
Ivan III
Oct 24 2009, 07:33 AM
I would actually have to say that a theme is important. Your theme gives a peek of what your alliance is and what it can do.
Your theme also can make your alliance memorable, like MK (Mario), Athens (History), New Sith Order (Sci-fi and Star Wars).
All of these will be remembered by everyone. Mostly because of the theme and people in charge.
So, if you:
a) Are a good leader, +1 because you could lead your alliance to victory of some sort
c) Have a good theme, another +1 because if it's good, you may have a memorable alliance
I hope I made a little sense here >.> <.<
A Soviet Attack
Oct 24 2009, 09:14 AM
Not very. It provides us a bit of material for when we want to make a photoshop, that's about it.
kingzog
Oct 24 2009, 11:38 AM
A theme can be a useful 'draw' but, as Boris intimated, without a community/culture to back it up, it's meaningless.
Robert Specto
Oct 24 2009, 11:40 AM
Doesnt matter if you have one or not. I think it makes you more interesting if you do tho. Like NSO, to me thats interesting or my own alliance The Dark Brotherhood, completely made to match it in the Oblivion game. It makes it more fun and like Ivan III said, makes ppl remember you better. To me, an alliance without some sort of theme is pretty boring and unimaginative.
Timberland
Oct 24 2009, 11:48 AM
A theme to me isn't important its how close your community is inside the alliance.
astronaut jones
Oct 24 2009, 12:03 PM
depends on whether it's a popular theme and how strictly they stick with it.
Sparta and athens and all them probably gained a hell of a lot because of their theme. NSO may have, but they gained more out of who runs it than anything else, it's important if it's something everyone recognizes and if it's something that everyone generally has a positive view on.
It's not so important in every other case. Hmm.. I guess you can say it can help, but it's not anything that will make or break you.
Unsure
Oct 24 2009, 12:11 PM
Not really at all.
Honestly, I didn't join MK because ~MARIO~ or anything silly like that, and I wouldn't join anyone else for similar reasons. Also, many good alliances have no discernible theme; see Umbrella, for instance.
Drakedeath
Oct 24 2009, 12:11 PM
The theme is important to new players, but usually not to old players. I joined IAA, but I have never seen Star Wars. Unless Family Guy's Blue Moon counts.
Anyway, a new player might be attracted to a 300, Star Wars, or Mario alliance, but old players tend to decide using the people.
Therefore...
Importance for new players = 67%
Importance for experienced players = 2%*
*May have a 2% margin of error.
astronaut jones
Oct 24 2009, 12:13 PM
QUOTE (Drakedeath @ Oct 24 2009, 06:11 PM)

The theme is important to new players, but usually not to old players. I joined IAA, but I have never seen Star Wars. Unless Family Guy's Blue Moon counts.
Anyway, a new player might be attracted to a 300, Star Wars, or Mario alliance, but old players tend to decide using the people.
Therefore...
Importance for new players = 67%
Importance for experienced players = 2%*
*May have a 2% margin of error.
Don't you wish, from time to time, that you could have back the naivety at how PB functioned that we all had when we first started playing?
tamerlane
Oct 24 2009, 12:13 PM
I joined the Marmot Kingdom because of my love for all things Marmot.
Mister Oz
Oct 24 2009, 12:14 PM
Theme and culture allow alliances to seperate themselves form an other alliance. You will find alliances with a strong, tasteful theme will succeed far more often then generic alliances that shun these ideas. Alliances that take there theme and just use it to make references in treaty announcements are underestimating the potential their theme ideas may have. Plus, ntohing creates more loyalty to an alliance more than a shared interest in theme and/or culture.
Unfortunately, as you can see from some of the posts here, my sentiments are not shared by everyone and theme continues to be an undervalued aspect of an alliance.
SkonesMickLoud
Oct 24 2009, 12:17 PM
QUOTE (WolfsPride @ Oct 23 2009, 10:22 PM)

Me being a LOVER of Wolves, Wolfpacks Theme was perfect for me. My wife is Cherrokee and our house is decorated with wolf stuff. We even have a Wolf
But do you own the most important of the wolf-based accessories?

I am truly jealous...
Portugal
Oct 24 2009, 12:18 PM
I doubt there's anyone in MK who DIDN'T join because of the Mario Theme.
tamerlane
Oct 24 2009, 12:25 PM
QUOTE (Portugal @ Oct 24 2009, 06:18 PM)

I doubt there's anyone in MK who DIDN'T join because of the Mario Theme.
I thought this was the Marmot Kingdom....
Dear Christ,
WHAT HAVE I DONE?!!?
Anyone with a theme leaning towards the Xerinae family of animals, please contact me. I need a new alliance as soon as possible; Mario themes are dumb.
Azaghul
Oct 24 2009, 01:01 PM
When I was new, I joined GPA because it was the "hippy" alliance.
I didn't join MK because of the theme, though it didn't hurt.
hizzy
Oct 24 2009, 01:07 PM
QUOTE (WolfsPride @ Oct 24 2009, 06:22 AM)

Me being a LOVER of Wolves, Wolfpacks Theme was perfect for me. My wife is Cherrokee and our house is decorated with wolf stuff. We even have a Wolf
Do you have one of those awesome wolf shirts? DAMMIT skones beat me to it
SirWilliam
Oct 24 2009, 01:11 PM
I figure theme can be a factor more so for players new to the game when they're considering an alliance (I mean, alliance theme probably attracted quite a few new players to Sparta when 300 was big, and likely still does, for example).
Then again, theme played no part in me joining the NPO when I first started playing (I joined them because I was on red and because they were the big red team alliance) nor when I joined MK (I joined them because it's where most of the other jrcommers migrated to).
Hydro
Oct 24 2009, 02:26 PM
QUOTE (SkonesMickLoud @ Oct 24 2009, 12:17 PM)

But do you own the most important of the wolf-based accessories?

I am truly jealous...
No doubt that shirt will get you laid within 5 minutes of putting it on.
Haflinger
Oct 24 2009, 05:10 PM
QUOTE (Unsure @ Oct 24 2009, 02:11 PM)

Also, many good alliances have no discernible theme; see Umbrella, for instance.
You mean Umbrella
isn't a Resident Evil themed alliance?
God, what a letdown.
Antoine Roquentin
Oct 24 2009, 05:12 PM
QUOTE (Haflinger @ Oct 24 2009, 04:10 PM)

You mean Umbrella isn't a Resident Evil themed alliance?
God, what a letdown.
No, it isn't. Our military divisions are named after Resident Evil things, but that was a later addition. No Rihanna either.
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