Taken from the publicly viewable topic titled "Lord Exodus" on the SNAFU forum:

looks good...thanks for posting this.

I thought SNAFU had implied they did not condone permanent ZI, but sounds like they're still out for my blood even after rerolling.

For those interested, you can follow any further developments in SNAFU's topic as it is publicly viewable here unless of course they decide that they no longer wish to grant everyone access to view their discussion about me.

Uh, that's nice?

Thanks for sharing.

excellent read with plenty of compelling insights and commentary. Thank you

Rerolling under the same name isn't really rerolling you know.

If you don't want contact with them just don't snoop around at their boards and don't contact them.

Where, oh where does it say we want to perma ZI you?

Basically you've taken a private conversation off the fourms (I know it should be private but meh) where some of our members have let off some of their anger for what you did.

The conversation was hardly private, I didn't even need to register an account on the forum to view it. I just went to the forum and it was available to me.

What are you going for here, drumming up sympathy? You were put in a position of trust to edit guides, maliciously deleted them on the run and used up all your luck when Nemesis stuck its neck out for you the first time around. If you reroll as the same SNAFU hating character and go posting threads on the OWF they'll continue to hunt you down.

If you'd like to move on re-roll and stay the heck away from them, and surprise, they'll probably leave you alone.

I'm not sure what you were trying to achieve by posting this, but you certainly have more people scrutinizing the situation than before. Something tells me this was probably a bad idea.

Thanks for bringing our attention to this utterly useless crap. I want my two minutes back.

no refunds on time spent, ive put in 3 so far (1 minute 23 seconds in to this response to you). I for one would like to hear your thoughts on LE's options going forward, specifically what alliance do you think would be a good fit for him etc.

This should take you all of 47-56 seconds and would greatly contribute to this moving in a positive direction.

How do they advocate PZI when they clearly say you're not to be attacked?



You sir should have stayed gone

These affairs tend to run a pretty steady course. Which would leave us a slightly more clever re-roll, and attempt to reapply to SNAFU to take them down from the inside, away from this possibly moving on. How long that will take generally depends on how quickly the fellow can find a way to proxy his IP.

I don't get it, where is the part where I'm supposed to be outraged by SNAFU?

LE, if you're trying to raise up sympathy, you have terrible timing and are generaly failing at it.

I don't bother to read it,, tl;dr?


I laughed.

Not sympathy, just thought it was a different perspective on SNAFU considering how they generally try to convey themselves on OWF.

Perhaps they do, as the responses so far have been highly predictable. That being said we have a great opportunity here to move this in a more postive direction for everyone involved. We need a few simple things to occur.

1. a white knight: someone who will support and embrace LE's cause
2. continued discourse from snafu on this situation, rebutting and replying to every post made by LE and his knight.
3. log dumps

We get those things, we got something otherwise we can expect the same tried and tired result as always.

Why is it the new perspective you are proposing seems to invoke irritation rather than refreshment?

i am in a state of outrage over SNAFU

:rage:

Point of view is paramount when considering outcomes of others actions and motivations. (see peanut gallery rep title....)

Ah, I missed that.

Carry on, you're a master at your art.

So...they are advocating PZI when also saying you are not to be attacked...?

I realize that I do not have a huge post count or anything, but I generally thought that PZI required one to be attacked.

You rerolled sometime today as your nation is 0 days old as of Wednesday, October 21st. Thus your punishment has been effected. As a note, SNAFU never said that you had to delete or that they would continue to attack you forever. You made the decision to delete yourself. But posting quotes that pre-date your deletion/ZI are kind of pointless because they are now out of context.

I'd also point out you were ghosting SNAFU just a few weeks ago which is not exactly a friendly action.

You have the option of just going your own way at this point and not looking back. And I'm sure SNAFU will let it go. But if you keep trying to cause trouble for them, eventually you will give them enough rope to hang yourself. But it will be because you choose those actions. I suppose you could continue trying to play the victim. You might even get some support from those with political reasons to dislike SNAFU. But somehow, I doubt it will turn out well for you in the end.

I'd suggest that you just move on really.

OMG this situation just really breaks my heart.

Guys, for the love of humanity, WE NEED THE GROUP HUG!

Not really sure what you're trying to attempt here LE but feedback so far has been fairly straightforward; move on already.

Yo Lord Exodus buddy ole pal. Guess what? I'm in range

However SNAFU is a good group of people, they haven't ordered an attack on you or anything. (I will point out you have nothing to attack at this time though.)

SNAFU's true colors or yours Lord Exodus?

I called you friend and ally, you betrayed us and now you betray yourself.

Is that what you want to be? A Benedict Arnold? Not even a Benedict Arnold, he had a cause, you do it for kicks.

To the mods: This isn't role play, and barely game play. I'm not sure if it belongs somewhere else or doesn't belong at all.

I was referring to the part I've emphasised in bold, which clearly implies that as of now, Stetson76 does not wish to have SNAFU attack me, but may at a later date.
I mean, there's not much point warring with a newly rolled nation now is there?
I'm 0 days old, have 1 infrastructure which amounts to 3NS.
SNAFU doesn't even have anyone in my range.
Even if they did, it couldn't be very gratifying to destroy 1 infrastructure, could it?

The way you are conducting yourself right now might make it very enjoyable. You aren't worth my time. We didn't make this a vendetta, we weren't obsessed with destroying you. We'd just as soon forget you exist. Its you who is pushing this on, or it would be a defunct topic by now.

I lmaoed because you zied yourself.

I thought we already had this discussion.

I give all of you this to see as provided by Lord Exodus. SNAFU was moving on, so why can't you?

Seeing as how you certainly have come back with the intent to slander and annoy SNAFU, it's hardly unfounded for them to think that you won't act in some way in the future that will give them just cause to attack you. Not that they're looking for a reason, but it will no doubt present itself if you continue as you have.

They're saying that they'll attack you IF you do something to warrant it... Which they expect that you will. That's not PZI. That's just saying "hmm, this guy's been trouble before, he'll probably do something else stupid and get attacked."

-Bama

This is a poor show on the part of SNAFU, PZI is bad.

Should you feel the need to have someone champion your case, LE, Carpe Diem is the alliance to go to. Find me on IRC if the situation doesn't get resolved.

reading a thread before replying to it is always good practice.

Sounds like dubious advice.

Aren't their true colours purple?

Also; rerolling under the same name isn't a real reroll. Also you should stay away from them and not bother them, like you seem to be doing. That will only bring you harm - as Stetson explains in the post you quoted. They are waiting for you to make a stupid move again, so I advice you to do the opposite and you'll probably see that they won't attack you.

Erikz, we may have disagreements, but I couldn't have said it any better myself. (Well, other than when I said, on our forums, that he's not to be attacked unless he tries to harm us. )

Exodus, I made that thread public when I posted it because we have nothing to fear from it. We didn't want you destroyed as anyone can see in the topics which previously discussed the situation. I was hoping that you'd come out of hippie and attack me while you were ghosting our AA, but you chose another path. Registering on our forums as someone else, applying for membership and leaving us little clues such as the one you graciously quoted in the OP is surely a way to continue on without antagonizing us.



*Note: :LE is a smilie on our forums that was made in honor of Exodus' Joker sig while he was still a member in good standing.

I want to thank you for bringing to the light of day SNAFU's dastardly deeds for all the world to see. I actually thought about informing our friends that you've re-rolled and may apply, but now I see I don't have to do that. I'll tell you right now in a public forum that we will forgive you're little attempt at subterfuge and let your self imposed deletion stand as sufficient punishment for what we consider destruction of alliance property however, should you take any direct action against SNAFU including attempting to infiltrate our alliance, we will pound you into dust. (Hopefully you'll have built up a bit by then.)

Have a good day.

I have to admit, I haven't read anything since this post, but felt that I needed to respond to this. You take a 50k nation, and re roll with the same name..you are still re rolling. Why crucify a character with a history they are proud of.

We're not. He can keep his history for ever. In fact we'd prefer it.

Who are you?
And why should I care?

And if you continue on this course, I wouldn't blame them.

Can you read? Jeez you quoted Stetson.


Also.

Ruler: Lord Exodus
Nation Name: New Empire of Order
War/Peace Preference: War is an option for New Empire of Order.

And when checking for wars...



Ah, right. This is totally permazi. I get it now. Their leader ordered for you not to be attacked and you have no wars.

So let me get this straight. You reroll as the same name, go to their forums. You read that they said your former nation was not be attacked but that if you did something stupid, something they were sure you would, then they may attack you. Then you come here and post this crap trying to call them out? The only thing this proves is they should have rolled you from the start. Now however you have done far more damange to yourself then they ever could. Brilliant.

This is IC, at least mostly. Moving to WA

Please get in my range. I know SNAFU doesn't do PZI but I sure do

wow, smart

Wow, your post is the oxymoron to his "brilliance."