I have been playing CN for a long time, I sort of just play it causally and I am not really serious about it. My problem began when I was attacked 2 times in 2 weeks almost back to back. My nation was sort of in shambles so i was trying to build it up again. I had also lost all of my trading partners, by someone saying i could join a trading circle then kicking me out in the last moment. So as i waited to try and find new partners to trade with i did not collect taxes thinking i would get more money when i had full active trades.
To make a long story short i have been hit with this bill avoidance penalty and i dont think i can get out of the hole it has made. I now have all my trades full but each day i collect taxes i lose more money then i collect and i cant pay my bills so every day i go deeper and deeper into the red. Is there a solution for this problem?
Full Version: Question about bill paying avoidence
First off, join an alliance with more than 10 members. This will prevent tech raids.
When you've done that, decommission your troop to about 25% of your total population which would be about 6,000 Troops and then decommission your aircraft cruise missiles and tanks as they're just empty bills and you won't need them when you're in an alliance unless war is close.
Your trade set it mainly for Infra Purchasing and Bill Paying, it gives you a quite low collection rate compared to other trade sets.
Get rid of that Barrack and buy a 5th Clinic instead, if you have enough citizens after that, then buy a 5th Intelligence Agency. After that if you have enough improvement slots buy a church and continue to buy them until you have 5 churches.
That's pretty much all the short term advice I can give you right now.
Best of luck.
When you've done that, decommission your troop to about 25% of your total population which would be about 6,000 Troops and then decommission your aircraft cruise missiles and tanks as they're just empty bills and you won't need them when you're in an alliance unless war is close.
Your trade set it mainly for Infra Purchasing and Bill Paying, it gives you a quite low collection rate compared to other trade sets.
Get rid of that Barrack and buy a 5th Clinic instead, if you have enough citizens after that, then buy a 5th Intelligence Agency. After that if you have enough improvement slots buy a church and continue to buy them until you have 5 churches.
That's pretty much all the short term advice I can give you right now.
Best of luck.
QUOTE (Ursarkar E Creed @ Oct 14 2009, 02:20 AM) 
First off, join an alliance with more than 10 members. This will prevent tech raids.
When you've done that, decommission your troop to about 25% of your total population which would be about 6,000 Troops and then decommission your aircraft cruise missiles and tanks as they're just empty bills and you won't need them when you're in an alliance unless war is close.
Your trade set it mainly for Infra Purchasing and Bill Paying, it gives you a quite low collection rate compared to other trade sets.
Get rid of that Barrack and buy a 5th Clinic instead, if you have enough citizens after that, then buy a 5th Intelligence Agency. After that if you have enough improvement slots buy a church and continue to buy them until you have 5 churches.
That's pretty much all the short term advice I can give you right now.
Best of luck.
When you've done that, decommission your troop to about 25% of your total population which would be about 6,000 Troops and then decommission your aircraft cruise missiles and tanks as they're just empty bills and you won't need them when you're in an alliance unless war is close.
Your trade set it mainly for Infra Purchasing and Bill Paying, it gives you a quite low collection rate compared to other trade sets.
Get rid of that Barrack and buy a 5th Clinic instead, if you have enough citizens after that, then buy a 5th Intelligence Agency. After that if you have enough improvement slots buy a church and continue to buy them until you have 5 churches.
That's pretty much all the short term advice I can give you right now.
Best of luck.
You can't buy things if you haven't paid bills. He hasn't paid bills because he can't afford to pay bills. The only way for him to get out of it is to have him aided up out the hole.
Go join an alliance that'll get you out of this slump you're in, otherwise you're gonna have to start selling infrastructure.
QUOTE (o ya baby @ Oct 14 2009, 06:58 AM)
You can't buy things if you haven't paid bills. He hasn't paid bills because he can't afford to pay bills. The only way for him to get out of it is to have him aided up out the hole.
Go join an alliance that'll get you out of this slump you're in, otherwise you're gonna have to start selling infrastructure.
Go join an alliance that'll get you out of this slump you're in, otherwise you're gonna have to start selling infrastructure.
I was thinking this was the only possible way to escape it. Even if i sold my things there would not be so much of a point because i would just collect less money and i would still be negative. So i am guessing that there is no possible way out on my own, the only way to do it would be with foreign aid -.-
How do i find someone to give me foreign aid, only need 4million then i will pay the person back as soon as i can.
QUOTE (korona123 @ Oct 14 2009, 02:54 PM)
I was thinking this was the only possible way to escape it. Even if i sold my things there would not be so much of a point because i would just collect less money and i would still be negative. So i am guessing that there is no possible way out on my own, the only way to do it would be with foreign aid -.-
How do i find someone to give me foreign aid, only need 4million then i will pay the person back as soon as i can.
How do i find someone to give me foreign aid, only need 4million then i will pay the person back as soon as i can.
This is the first way to do it. The second way is this. I recommend joining a alliance, most of the alliances are happy to help you out. You are less likely to get attacked when you are in one, and making new friends is a free bonus that comes whit it.
If you can find my CN account I will give u the 4mil 
Once u find it send me a PM in game
Once u find it send me a PM in game
QUOTE (xoindotnler @ Oct 14 2009, 12:04 PM)
This is the first way to do it. The second way is this. I recommend joining a alliance, most of the alliances are happy to help you out. You are less likely to get attacked when you are in one, and making new friends is a free bonus that comes whit it.
Correction: Find a LARGE alliance. Micros such as WOLF simply can not afford such financial troubles.
Alternatively, you could do tech deals and sell tech at $3m/100. Once you are out of debt, you can start buying tech at $3m/100 again. Your net loss would be $0 on the tech.
Just a suggestion.
QUOTE (Emperor Stranger @ Oct 14 2009, 07:21 PM)
Correction: Find a LARGE alliance. Micros such as WOLF simply can not afford such financial troubles.
Alternatively, you could do tech deals and sell tech at $3m/100. Once you are out of debt, you can start buying tech at $3m/100 again. Your net loss would be $0 on the tech.
Just a suggestion.
Alternatively, you could do tech deals and sell tech at $3m/100. Once you are out of debt, you can start buying tech at $3m/100 again. Your net loss would be $0 on the tech.
Just a suggestion.
He doesnt need a large one, just a established, stabled one.
And the above posters are correct. When your in the hole, your in the hole. Unless if you can get into a heavy pop-boosting trade circle, your only bet is to find some friends to help you out.
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