I would like to take this time to make a formal apology. I first started playing cybernations about 1 year ago. In that time I joined the United Blue Directorate (UBD) and because I had misunderstandings of the game, argued against there form of government, and did the most despicable thing some one on this game can do, I left just when the UBD entered into the Karma war. I had accepted first aid from them and did not fulfill my obligation of stay for the minimum time. To the UBD, I greatly apologize for my actions of what can only be described as cowardice.

Later I re-rolled and formed my own alliance that ended in failure, and then joined the Democratic Open Community (DOC). I was happy there, finally getting to do that which I wanted to do, the whole reason I joined cybernations, to debate and legislate. While there I started a thread where we could sit and plan out our strategies in an OOC form. One of the ideas that I suggested for long term goals was to eventually end all dictatorships or at the very least place direct democracies in the top positions, which as you can tell is a very long term goal. I was told it could not be done and was not to be tried. However, I had visions of grandeur and decided to go ahead and try. So I began to formulate my plan, which was a stepped program. The first step was to introduce an ideology and cause people to question there beliefs. Second was to get the DOC to form alliances with only other direct-democracies, creating a sort of bloc treaty. The next step was to gradually infiltrate several persons into several of the larger alliances that were desperately loyal to direct democracy, but have them pose as loyal members of those alliances and eventually pitting them against each other to make way for the direct democratic bloc to move up.

So believing that my plan would work, I decided to act. I tried recruiting former members of Vox Populi, while not loyal to direct democracy, they did have a hatred of the NPO, but none would join, they pretty much all told me I was crazy, which now looking back, yeah I am. After that did not work, I left the DOC.

I just want to take this moment to state that the DOC had no idea that I had these plans.

And so I joined the NpO to gather info and learn to start a corruption from inside and conduct those operations from within. The first thing I did was post an article about how horrible Direct democracy is in a cheap PR attempt to garner support from the members of the NpO. That paper had eventually started to fall apart as the members of the DOC started to point out its blatant lies. So I would like to apologize to the DOC for such betrayal. I hang my head low at bashing my ideals that I so reverently supported. I hang my head in shame.

I have come to several realizations about myself and this game. Firstly, loyalty is key, second, I suck at this game, I am not a politican, i am not a ambassador and I can not convey an ideology. When you have tarnished your reputation as badly as I have, I have but one option, I must leave. And so I bid planet bob good bye, and the world will be better off with out the presence of people like me.

Best of luck with whatever you decide to do.

Interesting, good luck in RL.

I like the idea. Maybe try again under a different name, k?

You came up with a plan you wanted to accomplish and then tried to put it into action. You at least tried to take action, which is more than most can say, and for that I salute you.

We are...truly incorruptible.

Yeh, direct democracy sure as hell wouldn't fly in Polar.

Nice try though

Sweet plan bro, remind me to implement that in the future

o/ Grub
o/ Failure in opposing Grub's POWAR!!!

But I like your idea! Let's coup Grub!

Also, please stop to create topics, it's annoying.

That's... quite an odd plan.

Hmm.

The best laid plans of mice and men, eh?

I'll give you credit for ambition but the lack of any tangible benefit to such enormous effort places it squarely within the category of pointless. If you are going to put that much effort into something, might as well just make it an alliance you can call home and push that up the ranks.

I don't see any reason for you to re-roll though. Even if you feel this is some sort of blunder, you'll gain more respect from your peers if you just brush yourself off, learn from it, and resolve not to quit.

I've discovered that this is an arena that requires patience, thick skin, and a need towards seeing things several steps ahead. You've got, at least in theory, the last one.

Best of luck with what ever you decide to do, but I'd suggest you just suck it up, use the experience to learn a little bit more about humility, find an alliance that really appeals to you and put your brain power to work for them.

Damn. There goes my title for "worst attempted coup of Polar".

What, more spies? I didn't see this one coming.



Take care Kamino, it was... short?



You had a good run.

There's always next year, Doitzel. There's always next year.

And just to address a few more points:


Yes.


You are what you determine yourself to be. That doesn't mean that you'll be good at it right out of the gate, but it's what you set your mind to that creates your future self.

Not a politician or ambassador? C'mon, do you have any rl experience doing that? It's something you have to learn. Debate and FA work takes practice and time. And no matter how good you are, you're still prone to make mistakes. That's the nature of the beast. Don't take a defeatist attitude. Instead, take a pragmatic one. You can learn and excel at anything with enough time invested in it. Is the time/skill trade off worth it? That's for you to decide.

In my brief experiences interacting with you, I would suggest you spend more time looking at the way things are and why they are that way, because what set these protocols in place are different from rl rules, instead of looking at how the way it is can be a platform for your advancement. Sure ambition and crafty thinking are good, but you must first understand some basics. In short, less talking, more listening, asking, and examining.

If you want to sharpen your skills in putting forth your ideas, step into the boiler room. That place is brutal and the folks that debate in there are often very skilled at rhetoric and logic. Get your feet wet in there.




Nonsense, you're being emotional. Which is fine, but take it with some perspective. There a handfull of people who tarnish their reputations on a weekly basis (I'll leave it up to others to point them out) but they are firmly committed towards their roles and get up after every fiasco to try it again. Take heart, perceptions can be changed and your skills will improve.

Remember: learn the basics inside and out. See things as they are, not as you would like them to be. Take everything, yourself included, less seriously. Don't give up and keep practicing.

And who would have me? A person who commits these types of actions? Who could ever trust me again, or at the very least give pause when dealing with me?

Doitzel and Francesca are my arguments.

I dunno, the LSF is pretty forgiving. You can always swing by and chill with us while we pass the pipe.

Link's right here, dude!

If you can place the goals of an alliance above the goals of yourself, almost everyone will. And, there are plenty of alliances that will take anyone regardless of their past if you agree to turn over a new leaf. There are a dozens of people who have committed much more heinous crimes that still find sanctuary.

If you doubt this, just change your AA to none and see what happens.

If you are truly determined to make your mark on the world I would suggest finding someone who is well versed in the political arena and approach them as an "apprentice."

I'm not sure Doitzel can ever recover from this one. That was mean.

OOC: Mongol, I really appreciate the offer, but as I am using a US government computer that is monitored, I doubt they would be to happy with a member with a security clearance visiting a socialist website, even if it is just a game. NCIS and the FBI are a bit funky that way.

OOC: I was a Military Intelligence analyst in the Army with a TS/SCI and I've been a member ever since the /b/ alliance disbanded (with the occasional exploration of other 'New Left' alliances. Don't sweat it, dude. You're not breaking any laws or regs by joining a gaming clan that calls itself the Libertarian Socialist Federation. Hell, I was even a card-carrying member of the SP-USA up to the day I was discharged! Honorably, mind you.

Shameless

Seems like you need a place to start over and get a second chance now.

Anyway, although you seem to have planned a Vox-Populi-like revolution under my watch (which I didn't notice) and dragged a lot of internals out to the OWF (which I was forced to notice), I wish you the best of luck.

OOC: army, no kiding, were going to have to talk some time.

GO Navy, Beat Army!

There's no Geneva Convention for Class War, bro!

First of all, I would like to encourage you with all sincerity and seriousness not to reroll. I believe that it is easy to make mistakes in Cyber Nations, just as it is easy to make mistakes in real life. The trick is not to allow our errors to destroy us, as they would if you rerolled, but to learn from them and become the better for it. To continue while people dislike you, scorn you or misunderstand you requires strength of character, and in doing so you retain self-respect. You also know with certainty that you control your own destiny and do not allow yourself to be influenced by the opinions of others. I know that if I ever reroll, it will not be because I am unable to cope with the prejudices of others.

Furthermore, I would like to state that too many in this game are motivated purely by self-interest. You, however, have decided on what you believe in and set objectives for yourself accordingly, and made steps towards achieving those objectives. For this I salute you, though I cannot say I agree with you.

I just don't know what to say. I thought that the rest of the world would be far more harsh, even calling for ZI and the likes.

There are still traces of the Old Hegemony remaining, man, but without the singularity of political concentration like there was before, folks are less likely to brazenly lace up their jackboots like the good old days.

Get up and keep going. Do something and influence the world. Present us with your opinions on the CNF. Become a member of alliance government. Hell, start a revolution, heaven knows we could do with some drama. Who gives a damn about PZI anyway?

I like Revolutions! But thats the type of thinking that got me here in the first place.

Got you where? You're not in any sort of trouble, you know. Just get up and keep playing.

I guess I will give LSF a try.

But I feel as if I owe the DOC, but by the statements of Tam, i don't think I would be welcome back after specificly drudging out there name.

Oh snap it worked! You could do a lot worse than LSF, good choice. I hope you work out whatever issues stemmed from this incident and that you have a productive and influential CN career.

If you're looking for an alliance, I do believe I've linked you to this before.....

LOL, I think not, Francoism is my mortal enemy of political ideals. But thanks for the offer, its the thought that counts.

Oh, don't worry, I'll get you someday.

I look forward to it

It's a good thing we are incorruptible.

But still it was mildly amusing to watch someone try.

Trying to change the political views of the alliance that you're in is usually foolish, but lord, there are far worse things you can do in the game, and lots of people have done them and still play the game & have lots of fun.

Also, nobody cares in the real-world government if you play a wargame and pretend to be a socialist. If they did, there would be whole chunks of military command that would have to go. Heh.

Your ideas do seem ambitious and strange but they don't appear to be especially malicious so I don't see why you'd need to re-roll. As far as I'm concerned by thinking things through and planning your moves you have shown that you are at least able to elevate yourself above the many mindless footsoldiers of this game, which is to be commended.

Totally. He'll make a fine comrade in the Black Guards.

Feeling homesick heh Tam?

pssh, lkcool did a better job of getting people riled up with his poor "arguments".

Also, good luck with LSF.

Well Ok then.

Good luck?

You mean that plan didn't work?!

No one with decent standards really. I'd also like to join my fellow Polars and call this the most hilarious attempt on Polar to date. You posted a "paper" about direct democracy sucking. Some folks agreed, some disagreed, and some just told you it was a nice read. What I don't understand is, if you wanted to start a movement and corrupt an alliance that is tough as nails, why would you post one thread and quit?

I suspect the reason was because, since he came from a Direct Democracy, he was getting some heat from his former friends and he just couldn't take it anymore.

But I might be wrong. Anyway, he did a second attempt at attacking the Direct Democracy in the meanwhile.