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Lamuella
idly browsing and I came across this article:

http://ca.travel.yahoo.com/guides/Other/77...liked-countries

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World's most well-liked countries
Lauren Sherman, ForbesTraveler.com - Tue Oct 6, 4:47 PM

The U.S. claims the top spot in a global survey of culture, tourism, governance and residents.

Chicago was dropped from hosting the Olympics in the first round of decisions last week. And stateside, Barack Obama's average approval rating last month was 52%, according to Gallup. That's compared to spring numbers in the mid-60s.

But two recent reports show that globally, positive opinion of the U.S. has blossomed. Approval of America among the French rose to 75% this year, from 42% in 2008. In Britain, those numbers are 69% and 53%, respectively, according to this year's Pew Global Attitudes Project. The 2009 Anholt-GfK Roper Nation Brands Index, released Monday, also supports this notion.


For the first time since 2005 when Simon Anholt--an independent policy adviser to 20 national, regional and city governments--started conducting the survey, the U.S. has been named the most admired country in the world, climbing six spots in the rankings from 2008. Rounding out the top five are other beloved countries like France, Germany, the U.K. and Japan.

Anholt attributed the U.S.' rank to global confidence in Obama. He also believes that former president George W. Bush's incredibly unpopular foreign policy pulled the country down in terms of image. After he left office this year, the only way for the U.S. to go was up. "The country's position was artificially depressed by Bush," says Anholt.

An increase in U.S. popularity meant a decrease for its neighbor Canada. The country dropped three spots.

"I prophesied that if the image of the U.S. ever improved, the perception of Canada would suffer," says Anholt. While Canada scores high for its friendly people and beautiful landscape, outsiders know little else about the country's culture. All they do believe, Anholt deduces, is that Canada is the opposite of the United States in policy. "If the U.S. is illiberal, intolerant and aggressive, then Canada is liberal, tolerant and passive," he says. "Now the seesaw has gone the other way, and Canada is losing its identity."

Behind The Numbers

To complete this survey, Anholt, in partnership with Princeton, N.J.-based market research firm GfK Roper, surveyed 20,000 people from 20 countries--chosen for geographic and economic diversity--over the summer of 2009. The survey asked respondents to rank 50 countries in six categories: governance, culture, products and services, people, tourism and immigration/investment.

The "governance" section of the survey included questions on human rights and foreign policy, while "culture" encompassed heritage, popular culture and sports. The "products and services" section asked about brands each country is known for (e.g., IKEA is associated with Sweden). The "people" category included queries on the perceived attitudes of each country's citizens (that is, whether or not they seem hard-working, warm, friendly or tolerant). Questions in "tourism" focused on whether or not the respondents would want to visit these countries on vacation. And "immigration/investment" asked about living in these countries and investing in their businesses.

Most countries in the top 10 scored fairly well in every area, but with exceptional strength in one category. For example, Australia, with its enviable beaches, mountains and distinctive !@#$%*, is "a tourist destination to die for," says Anholt. And while the French aren't, for the most part, thought of as particularly friendly or warm, Anholt says that in terms of culture and tourism, the country scores high. Germany is widely admired for its brands such as Adidas, Volkswagen and Hugo Boss.

All in all, these are places many of us would like to visit, and possibly live. The question is, will the U.S. remain in the top spot next year?

"It'll keep its place for as long as Obama is in office," says Jose Filipe Torres, chief executive of Bloom Consulting, a Madrid-based brand strategy firm with clients including Spain, which tied with Sweden for 10th place. However, he doesn't think that U.S.' newfound branding power indicates anything about its economic future. "Good brand positing doesn't always mean more tourism, economic development and foreign investment."


that list in full...

10. Sweden (tie) (2008 ranking: 10)
10. Spain (tie) (2008 ranking: 11)
9. Australia (2008 ranking: 9)
8. Switzerland (2008 ranking: 8)
7. Canada (2008 ranking: 4)
6. Italy (2008 ranking: 6)
5. Japan (2008 ranking: 5)
4. United Kingdom (2008 ranking: 3)
3. Germany (2008 ranking: 1)
2. France (2008 ranking: 2)
1. United States (2008 ranking: 7)

wow, that's a pretty big leap in popularity. Now what we'll have to see is how much this translates into increased tourism, increased sales of US brands, and the like.
Lord GVChamp
Interesting leap right there. This covers developing world nations, too, or just developed world?
Lamuella
I'm presuming it covers all, but people tend to have more positive associations with first world countries.
King Diamond
I quoted Joe Wilson when I read the thread title.
Lamuella
QUOTE (King Diamond @ Oct 9 2009, 07:58 PM) *
I quoted Joe Wilson when I read the thread title.


and you were about as accurate as him, too smile.gif
Sargun
QUOTE
"It'll keep its place for as long as Obama is in office," says Jose Filipe Torres, chief executive of Bloom Consulting

DING DING DING
Zarfef
QUOTE
increased sales of US brands


Wait... there still exists products not made in China?!
Ethan Smith
WUT

edit-I find it interesting that Germany was #1
ty345
All I can say is:

SUCK IT CANADA! tongue.gif
King Diamond
QUOTE (Lamuella @ Oct 9 2009, 05:05 PM) *
and you were about as accurate as him, too smile.gif


Indeed smile.gif
Charles VI
Interesting. I'm going to go with the hypothesis that Bush simply lowered the opinion of the US artificially. It's not so much the fact that Obama is now the President, but the fact that Bush is no longer President.
Lamuella
QUOTE (Charles VI @ Oct 9 2009, 09:36 PM) *
Interesting. I'm going to go with the hypothesis that Bush simply lowered the opinion of the US artificially. It's not so much the fact that Obama is now the President, but the fact that Bush is no longer President.


it's probably a twofer. Obama is every bit as good an ambassador as Bush was bad, in my opinion.
Vaal Satori
QUOTE (Zarfef @ Oct 9 2009, 08:22 PM) *
Wait... there still exists products not made in China?!


USA is the world's largest exporter of goods and services, and Germany is the largest exporter of merchandise.
Kenadian_2006
QUOTE (Charles VI @ Oct 9 2009, 09:36 PM) *
Interesting. I'm going to go with the hypothesis that Bush simply lowered the opinion of the US artificially. It's not so much the fact that Obama is now the President, but the fact that Bush is no longer President.


Not exactly, the Europeans like Obama too. As evidenced by his trip to Germany.
Delta1212
QUOTE (Ethan Smith @ Oct 9 2009, 09:26 PM) *
WUT

edit-I find it interesting that Germany was #1

Germany is extremely popular these days. Having visited the country on a number of occasions, I can definitely say it's for good reason. Beautiful country, major business center and the people are surprisingly laid back and friendly as a general rule.


The French, on the other hand, mostly deserve that reputation for being less than warm in my experience, though, as with every group, there are plenty of exceptions.
Alarik Martens
Like I give a **** what other nations think about us.
Lamuella
QUOTE (Alarik Martens @ Oct 9 2009, 11:49 PM) *
Like I give a **** what other nations think about us.


that's right, it's not like international opinion has any impact on how well a country does. Germany didn't care what people thought of them in the 1930s, and look at them now!
Eagare the Alenthin
Eh, I think Canada got a bit screwed over by the fact that it has no one "culture" in the same way that America is the Land of the Free or Italy is the ancestral land of the Romans.
Alarik Martens
QUOTE (Lamuella @ Oct 9 2009, 09:51 PM) *
that's right, it's not like international opinion has any impact on how well a country does. Germany didn't care what people thought of them in the 1930s, and look at them now!

They did pretty damn well for themselves for a while until actual war broke out.
Delta1212
QUOTE (Lamuella @ Oct 9 2009, 11:51 PM) *
that's right, it's not like international opinion has any impact on how well a country does. Germany didn't care what people thought of them in the 1930s, and look at them now!

Alarik votes BNP, so that might not have been a very hard hitting example where he's concerned.

Edit: And I see I was correct.
Lamuella
QUOTE (Alarik Martens @ Oct 9 2009, 11:55 PM) *
They did pretty damn well for themselves for a while until actual war broke out.


because actual wars are nothing to do with what other nations think about you.
Asriel Belacqua
QUOTE (Alarik Martens @ Oct 9 2009, 09:55 PM) *
They did pretty damn well for themselves for a while until actual war broke out.


War came about as a result of their decision to "not care." To say they did well until war broke out, is ok, I guess, but war was a direct result of them not caring.

So were the effects of what happened after the war (You know, east/west germany, the fact that they are STILL rebuilding eastern Germany, etc, etc).

Edit: Lamuella beat me to the punch. I was trying to type fast, but he beat me anyway. Curse you lammy!
Lord GVChamp
Yeah, they actually declared war after Hitler swallowed up two nations, including breaking several peace treaties. And this with only Germany!

The US being alienated like Nazi Germany eventually was is extremely unlikely. I'm quite confident we could exterminate everyone in Iraq and people would poo-poo about it when they realize how dependent they are on the US.
Alarik Martens
QUOTE (Lamuella @ Oct 9 2009, 10:00 PM) *
because actual wars are nothing to do with what other nations think about you.

I think declaring aggressive war had more to do with the outbreak of war than anyone's opinion of Germany at the time. Many people in Europe actually liked Germany's National Socialist government.
Sargun
QUOTE (Alarik Martens @ Oct 9 2009, 11:08 PM) *
I think declaring aggressive war had more to do with the outbreak of war than anyone's opinion of Germany at the time. Many people in Europe actually liked Germany's National Socialist government.

Especially those Jews.
Alarik Martens
QUOTE (Sargun @ Oct 9 2009, 10:13 PM) *
Especially those Jews.

Can't please 'em all.
Sargun
QUOTE (Alarik Martens @ Oct 9 2009, 11:22 PM) *
Can't please 'em all.

I don't think there is enough alcohol in this world to allow me to respond to that without physical harm.
Alarik Martens
QUOTE (Sargun @ Oct 9 2009, 10:25 PM) *
I don't think there is enough alcohol in this world to allow me to respond to that without physical harm.

lol1.gif Don't hurt yourself there, Goldberg.
King Diamond
QUOTE (Lamuella @ Oct 9 2009, 08:51 PM) *
that's right, it's not like international opinion has any impact on how well a country does. Germany didn't care what people thought of them in the 1930s, and look at them now!


They're actually doing fairly well now.
kingzog
This should last right up until the moment realpolitik compels Obama to renege on darn near everything he's promised. Perhaps a bit longer, since he has the whole "not George Bush" and "oooh....a Black man in the White House" novelty thing going on.

Then Americans can get back to sewing Canadian flags on their backpacks again.
Sargun
QUOTE (Alarik Martens @ Oct 9 2009, 11:26 PM) *
lol1.gif Don't hurt yourself there, Goldberg.

I'm afraid you misspelled my name.
Asriel Belacqua
QUOTE (King Diamond @ Oct 9 2009, 10:27 PM) *
They're actually doing fairly well now.


They'd be doing better if they didn't have to rebuild themselves from basically scratch and the damage that the cold war caused them (at least in Eastern Germany).
Lamuella
QUOTE (Alarik Martens @ Oct 10 2009, 12:26 AM) *
lol1.gif Don't hurt yourself there, Goldberg.


this is coming dangerously close to being a flame based on someone's religion. Watch yourself there.
Chrono
QUOTE (Kenadian_2006 @ Oct 10 2009, 03:38 AM) *
Not exactly, the Europeans like Obama too. As evidenced by his trip to Germany.


Europeans like every Democrat President.

Obama just happened to follow one of the least liked Presidents in Europe in recent history.
ZeTyon
QUOTE (Eagare the Alenthin @ Oct 10 2009, 05:53 AM) *
or Italy is the ancestral land of the Romans.


Yeah.... more the ancestral land of the ability to drive like an idiot.


QUOTE (Delta1212 @ Oct 10 2009, 05:40 AM) *
The French, on the other hand, mostly deserve that reputation for being less than warm in my experience, though, as with every group, there are plenty of exceptions.


During my visits of france i found the french to be some nice people. And even though my french kinda sucked they still were nice to me. Most people that flame about the french visit france and kinda want to talk english the whole day. But it doesnt work that way. Which is.... nice.


QUOTE (Lord GVChamp @ Oct 10 2009, 06:07 AM) *
The US being alienated like Nazi Germany eventually was is extremely unlikely. I'm quite confident we could exterminate everyone in Iraq and people would poo-poo about it when they realize how dependent they are on the US.


Dont be too full of yourself. I highly doubt that we wouldnt give a damn.
Lord GVChamp
QUOTE (ZeTyon @ Oct 10 2009, 01:28 AM) *
Dont be too full of yourself. I highly doubt that we wouldnt give a damn.

You are certainly showing a tough hand with the Chinese, Russians, Sudanese, Iranians, and North Koreans. Hey, how much do you tip a mailman to send strongly worded complaint letters?


You're dependent on the US. Trying to impose any sort of meaningful damage to the US is going to cause massive amounts of an economic backlash. And you don't have the stones to inflict that kind of harm on yourselves.
Sal Paradise
Being from a country well regarded in the world is great when traveling, though I would often have people ask me where I was from with great curiosity, only to display obvious disappointment when I told them I was Canadian.

I guess people like us, but aren't too excited about us. Canada is like that sensitive nice guy women always claim they're looking for but inevitably pass up for that rowdy jack $@! America.
Kenadian_2006
QUOTE (Chrono @ Oct 10 2009, 02:09 AM) *
Europeans like every Democrat President.

Obama just happened to follow one of the least liked Presidents in Europe in recent history.


I dunno, I would still attribute some of it to his own popularity and charisma.

QUOTE (Alarik Martens @ Oct 10 2009, 12:26 AM) *
lol1.gif Don't hurt yourself there, Goldberg.


If you're done being anti-Semitic and insulting people.
Kenadian_2006
Delete, double post.
America
QUOTE (Sal Paradise @ Oct 10 2009, 07:35 AM) *
Being from a country well regarded in the world is great when traveling, though I would often have people ask me where I was from with great curiosity, only to display obvious disappointment when I told them I was Canadian.

I guess people like us, but aren't too excited about us. Canada is like that sensitive nice guy women always claim they're looking for but inevitably pass up for that rowdy jack $@! America.

I had this talk with two brits and two aussies last night. The thing about Canada is Europe knows you're quite like them, and they (no-offense my great neighbor to the north) but they want to meet someone they hear so much about for being different and yet so successful in many ways. They said Canada is great, they're heading their this coming weekend, but the U.S. is a mix of home (English is spoken here, etc) yet so many new things that it's like visiting an entirely foreign new country yet having the perks of home.
Asriel Belacqua
QUOTE (America @ Oct 10 2009, 11:17 AM) *
I had this talk with two brits and two aussies last night. The thing about Canada is Europe knows you're quite like them, and they (no-offense my great neighbor to the north) but they want to meet someone they hear so much about for being different and yet so successful in many ways. They said Canada is great, they're heading their this coming weekend, but the U.S. is a mix of home (English is spoken here, etc) yet so many new things that it's like visiting an entirely foreign new country yet having the perks of home.


This is actually quite true from what I've heard myself. The way I heard it put to me though was like this:

Britain and America are two countries separated by a common language.

We are so common in that our language is similar, but even then it's entirely different, and changes as you go from place-to-place in the U.S., and our entire culture is entirely different, with the exception of (a good number of people anyway) being Christian (among a few other things).
Ethan Smith
The same reason is the explanation for anglo-philia in America--'they're exotic enough to be different, but not so exotic that you have to read subtitles'
NewPoseidon
It may sound silly, but popularity is a national security issue. I'm glad we're in our rightful place at #1.
Tushar Dhoot
I was happy for America until I read about Canada.

Down with America!1!
Kenadian_2006
QUOTE (NewPoseidon @ Oct 10 2009, 05:43 PM) *
It may sound silly, but popularity is a national security issue. I'm glad we're in our rightful place at #1.


Sarcasm, I assume.
Voodoo Nova
QUOTE (Asriel Belacqua @ Oct 10 2009, 02:03 PM) *
This is actually quite true from what I've heard myself. The way I heard it put to me though was like this:

Britain and America are two countries separated by a common language.

We are so common in that our language is similar, but even then it's entirely different, and changes as you go from place-to-place in the U.S., and our entire culture is entirely different, with the exception of (a good number of people anyway) being Christian (among a few other things).


Having lived in Ann Arbor, MI and then Ft. Lauderdale, FL there is a big difference in culture just driving between the two places. Ann Arbor is your average college town outside Detroit. Ft. Lauderdale is like being immersed in Latin American and South American cultures ranging from Haitian to Cuban to Venezuelan. Head to Miami and it is like little Cuba (I'm not stereotyping, anyone that's been there can tell you this is true) with Spanish being a necessity in order to be able to intermingle with people. It's interesting to see how in any one nation there is a vast amount of cultural differences even between two towns in the same county. Personally, that's one of the big reasons why I love living in the USA.


@NewPoseidon: We're #17 on the list for tourism last I checked. :/
deja
QUOTE (Kenadian_2006 @ Oct 10 2009, 10:06 PM) *
Sarcasm, I assume.

No. And I agree with him, too.
Kenadian_2006
QUOTE (deja @ Oct 10 2009, 06:51 PM) *
No. And I agree with him, too.


What in god's name makes it America's "right" to be most popular? That's utterly inane.
Alarik Martens
QUOTE (Kenadian_2006 @ Oct 10 2009, 04:59 PM) *
What in god's name makes it America's "right" to be most popular? That's utterly inane.

Get over it commie, or get out.
Sargun
QUOTE (Alarik Martens @ Oct 10 2009, 07:04 PM) *
Get over it commie, or get out.

...and it's Alarik Martens with the nonsensical statement of the thread!
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