Doc Anonymous
Oct 5 2009, 02:52 PM
Alright, have to do the introduction to explain this, so bear with me. I'll have been playing CN for the better part of a year, but have only gotten into inter-alliance stuff around the beginning of the Karma War. I still check the boards once in a while, but can't make heads or tails of what's going on to be honest.
The point of this post was to ask a few of the people who know more about what is going on to give me and any other newer players like me a crash course in what is going on right now on planet bob. Include an overview of current events, important alliances/blocs we should know, and any other information that would help us understand CN right now.
Thanks to anyone who helps.
Vilien
Oct 5 2009, 03:00 PM
This is material taken directly from the TMF Academy, where the politicians of tomorrow are trained. This chart is titled "Post Karma War Political Summary".
Lysander
Oct 5 2009, 03:02 PM
QUOTE (Vilien @ Oct 5 2009, 02:00 PM)

This is material taken directly from the TMF Academy, where the politicians of tomorrow are trained. This chart is titled "Post Karma War Political Summary".

lol, thats is the best summary I have seen so faar
Doc Anonymous
Oct 5 2009, 03:05 PM
haha thanks vilien. I think im good now.
King Wally
Oct 5 2009, 04:07 PM
QUOTE (Vilien @ Oct 6 2009, 07:00 AM)

This is material taken directly from the TMF Academy, where the politicians of tomorrow are trained. This chart is titled "Post Karma War Political Summary".

Vilien wins the post of the week award!
SynthFG
Oct 5 2009, 04:07 PM
QUOTE (Tycho Silvanus Valerius @ Oct 5 2009, 10:02 PM)

lol, thats is the best summary I have seen so faar
Not bad
Needs NPO COWering in the corner
Ghuxalia
Oct 5 2009, 04:12 PM
I've had a nation for over three years, and FA has always confused me. Until now
Thanks, Vilien!
potato
Oct 5 2009, 04:16 PM
QUOTE (Vilien @ Oct 5 2009, 11:00 PM)

This is material taken directly from the TMF Academy, where the politicians of tomorrow are trained. This chart is titled "Post Karma War Political Summary".

Ridiculous! Why are we not rolling Purple in this graph?
Chron
Oct 5 2009, 04:37 PM
QUOTE (potato @ Oct 5 2009, 11:16 PM)

Ridiculous! Why are we not rolling Purple in this graph?

No room for the halfassed spiral, I assume.
Vilien
Oct 5 2009, 04:42 PM
QUOTE (Chron @ Oct 5 2009, 06:37 PM)

No room for the halfassed spiral, I assume.
Everyone's a critic.
890765
Oct 5 2009, 05:15 PM
QUOTE (Vilien @ Oct 5 2009, 05:00 PM)

This is material taken directly from the TMF Academy, where the politicians of tomorrow are trained. This chart is titled "Post Karma War Political Summary".

I lol'd hard
Nice summary.
shahman
Oct 5 2009, 05:19 PM
check the wiki.
Learz
Oct 5 2009, 05:40 PM
Vilien, you are my hero.
Ghuxalia
Oct 5 2009, 07:47 PM
QUOTE (shahman @ Oct 5 2009, 07:19 PM)

check the wiki.
That's not really a crash course. That's much more "Who founded NPO?" and ending up looking up Ghux. Which is possible btw.
BamaBuc
Oct 5 2009, 08:52 PM
Sadly, there is no crash course in CN. A game with 27,000 players divided into hundreds of factions is so intricate that nobody can ever truly know everything. With time and observation you can learn much, but after a while you'll figure out that there's always something more that you don't know.
-Bama
Lord Brendan
Oct 5 2009, 08:59 PM
If you want a more, umm, scientific (

) version of Vilien's summary:
BamaBuc
Oct 5 2009, 09:09 PM
QUOTE (Lord Brendan @ Oct 5 2009, 09:59 PM)

If you want a more, umm, scientific (

) version of Vilien's summary:

That's awesome... Any way we could get it with a white background? It's really hard to see the lines with the black.
-Bama
Robert Specto
Oct 5 2009, 10:36 PM
Lol, nice, still hate the treaty web tho...so freakin confusing, doesnt even matter, so many alliances cut ties with each other before wars anyways.
Ragashingo
Oct 5 2009, 10:43 PM
QUOTE (Vilien @ Oct 5 2009, 04:00 PM)

This is material taken directly from the TMF Academy, where the politicians of tomorrow are trained. This chart is titled "Post Karma War Political Summary".

Yep. That about covers it...
anenu
Oct 5 2009, 10:45 PM
its already been said but their is no "crash course" in CN.
My advice is to get involved in government and hope that you have intelligent capable leaders and learn from them. I've been here for around 1.5 years and still am learning things but i have an understanding of were all the major alliances sit politically and have worked my way high enough into the gov to be privy to some backroom information so i have a decent understanding of what is happening but nobody ever has a complete understanding of things.
Delta1212
Oct 5 2009, 10:47 PM
QUOTE (BamaBuc @ Oct 5 2009, 11:09 PM)

That's awesome... Any way we could get it with a white background? It's really hard to see the lines with the black.
-Bama
The file download is in the topic in #gremlins. It's easier to see everything on the full 3D model.
Unsure
Oct 5 2009, 11:03 PM
QUOTE (Delta1212 @ Oct 5 2009, 09:47 PM)

The file download is in the topic in #gremlins. It's easier to see everything on the full 3D model.
If you still have trouble,, remember that you can push some buttons and then it will rotate, which both looks cool and makes it easier to see.
However, the fact that we need a 3D representation just to see our politics is hilarious.
King Death II
Oct 6 2009, 06:03 AM
LAWL, Look at Carpe Diem sitting in the corner all alone and stuff

also, Sparta controls CN apparently with them in the center of the chart and most lines going to them, TOP ud better step up your game lol
Bob Janova
Oct 6 2009, 07:03 AM
QUOTE
Any way we could get it with a white background?
If you have the program, yes. Change the ClearColour line in config.txt (and probably the colours for treaties too). I like the black background, I think the lines are easier to see on there, each to his own
Skippy
Oct 6 2009, 07:32 AM
QUOTE (Vilien @ Oct 6 2009, 08:00 AM)

This is material taken directly from the TMF Academy, where the politicians of tomorrow are trained. This chart is titled "Post Karma War Political Summary".

All it needs now is a "Key" or a "Legend"
Other than that, perfect
Il Principe
Oct 6 2009, 09:58 AM
QUOTE (Doc Anonymous @ Oct 5 2009, 10:52 PM)

The point of this post was to ask a few of the people who know more about what is going on to give me and any other newer players like me a crash course in what is going on right now on planet bob.
Actually I'm not that informed myself. But I do think I know what is going on.
Until recently we were in a "after war rebuilding phase" with alliances rebuilding and reviewing their foreign treaties.
I think CN is evolving into a "realignment phase" right now. Most surrender terms have ended and most of the war damage has been rebuild. Alliances will be signing new treaties and they will cancel current (low)level treaties. They will be signing treaties with alliances within their current 'sphere of influence' (upgrading treaties or signing treaties with friends from friends) or are with alliances on other sides of the treaty web.
In a few months this will hopefully evolve into a "growing tensions" phase. This can take as much as a year if we are out of luck.

Edit: Thanks Ghuxalia! I should not mingle dutch and english

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Ghuxalia
Oct 6 2009, 10:16 AM
QUOTE (Il Principe @ Oct 6 2009, 11:58 AM)

Actually I'm not that informed myself. But I do think I know what is going on.
Until recently we were in a "after war rebuilding fase" with alliances rebuilding and reviewing their foreign treaties.
I think CN is evolving into a "realignment fase" right now. Most surrender terms have ended and most of the war damage has been rebuild. Alliances will be signing new treaties and they will cancel current (low)level treaties. They will be signing treaties with alliances within their current 'sphere of influence' (upgrading treaties or signing treaties with friends from friends) or are with alliances on other sides of the treaty web.
In a few months this will hopefully evolve into a "growing tensions" fase. This can take as much as a year if we are out of luck.

it's phase.

that sums up the cycle, now all you need to do is figure out how to unwind the mess of the web!
also, lol3D
Louisa
Oct 6 2009, 10:29 AM
QUOTE (BamaBuc @ Oct 6 2009, 03:52 AM)

Sadly, there is no crash course in CN. A game with 27,000 players divided into hundreds of factions is so intricate that nobody can ever truly know everything. With time and observation you can learn much, but after a while you'll figure out that there's always something more that you don't know.
-Bama
But then all you really need to know is to stick with your friends and meh to the rest.
Take care,
Celtic
-Bama?
BamaBuc
Oct 6 2009, 04:00 PM
QUOTE (Delta1212 @ Oct 5 2009, 11:47 PM)

The file download is in the topic in #gremlins. It's easier to see everything on the full 3D model.
Unfortunately my only computer with Internet at the moment is my iPod.

Here's hoping I have enough cash for a new PC soon.
-Bama
Heft
Oct 6 2009, 04:20 PM
There are 4 obvious "poles" or factions (SF, Citadel, C&G, FB) with various others floating around somewhere as well. All of their relationship statuses are currently set to "It's complicated." Pretty much every group has ties to every other group, as well as hostilities somewhere with every other group,, and that muddies things up quite a bit.
There's also a whole mess of former "hegemony" alliances in or just coming out of recovery mode who haven't ended up firmly in any one faction yet.
Heracles the Great
Oct 6 2009, 04:28 PM
Heft gave a very nice summary of the current status - somehow it seems quite familiar with the pre-Karma status...
Kzoppistan
Oct 6 2009, 05:14 PM
QUOTE (Vilien @ Oct 5 2009, 05:00 PM)

This is material taken directly from the TMF Academy, where the politicians of tomorrow are trained. This chart is titled "Post Karma War Political Summary".

Sir, I would be interested in enrolling our pollitcos into your fine academy. Also, we will be subscribing to your newsletter.
QUOTE (Lord Brendan @ Oct 5 2009, 10:59 PM)

If you want a more, umm, scientific (

) version of Vilien's summary:

The map is obviously fraudulent, why, Zenith isn't anywhere on here.
Here we go, I fixed it for you:
Druss the Legend
Oct 6 2009, 05:24 PM
The fancy graph lacks Bel Air, so hence the lolMoralistFront's picture wins
Lord Brendan
Oct 6 2009, 07:29 PM
QUOTE (Bob Janova @ Oct 6 2009, 09:03 AM)

If you have the program, yes. Change the ClearColour line in config.txt (and probably the colours for treaties too). I like the black background, I think the lines are easier to see on there, each to his own

I tried that and it didn't work; the background remained black (with no other noticeable differences either) even with ClearColour set to White.
Bob Janova
Oct 7 2009, 05:40 AM
That's because I fail at writing software

I'll fix that and put a new version in the next edition of the download.
Sigrun Vapneir
Oct 7 2009, 06:54 AM
QUOTE (Unsure @ Oct 6 2009, 03:03 PM)

If you still have trouble,, remember that you can push some buttons and then it will rotate, which both looks cool and makes it easier to see.
However, the fact that we need a 3D representation just to see our politics is hilarious.
What is funny about it?
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