I've heard it often said, "The only reason that I play this game anymore is for this community. I love alliance X!"

If that's the case, why get upset about a reset?

Personally, I'm for it. I can get my 7k tech back, and the chance of having a level playing field again (if only for a little while) is too irresistible to me.

I wouldn't mind a reset except for the fact that I know a lot of people that I like would leave if one happened.

Go for it!!! Do eet, nao!

I will reroll into TOP or the NPO, just to see how the elite or the Francoists live. Not much chance of that happening without a reset.

A reset isn't really necessary as every few months the good people of planet Bob do a thermonuclear reset of their own.

No. That's what TE is for.

We have CN-TE. I would like to see a second server for plain CN opened. That way people don't lose what they have here but you can have the level playing field you mentioned.

Your blatant disregard for my most prized and treasured wonders is noted.

I seem to remember this question from somewhere

That said, nope. It'd be completely awesome just to see what happens. TE doesn't really count, as the whole thing gets blown up every two months. If we could just reset the main thing, it would be Hilarious, since we'd be redoing the first few months of CN, only this time we know about LC cycling and such. Fun times.

I don't believe a reset is required. I would also bet that in 6 months time you would see about the same rankings as we do now (not same NS wise, obviously, but the nations that are on top now would still be on top then.) I also think it woul drive the less active nations that only check their nations once a week away. They wouldn't know what happened and would just be frustrated by the entire thing.

I think the result would be more dissapointing than some might expect.
Even though the numbers (nukes, tech, infra and land) would be much lower, the rankings wouldn't look much different after a couple months.
Ultimately, it won't have changed the dynamics of the game, which would be the logical motivation behind a reset, unless the reset were accompanied by a complete change of game rules, which would force alliances to once again start figuring out how things work and have something of a challenge again for a couple months.

A blank reset would do nothing but put people who cared to invest a little brain and time into their nation on the same level with those that never bothered, or failed.

I am opposed. CN would lose lots of people and it wouldn't really make it more fun, alliances like TOP and Gramlins would just spend all day crying in a corner.

/me hugs his wonders tightly

I don't like a reset, the strongest point of CN is the fact that it has this much history. Although most people probably hate the NPO won/lost GWI discussion, I think those and others discussions like that make CN unique. I'm very afraid we'll loose all that history when CN would be reset.

Nope, that way we will lose a large number of players.

I'll take a reset anytime.

Nothing more reinvigorating for this game could happen, short of a huge amount of development.

I guess I wouldn't mind the reset as much as I would mind all the people who would leave because of one. Also, why do people keep bring this topic up every year?

I'd be interested in a global reset - but it'll never happen... I was pushign for it after the GRL went up to 40+ during Karma War

Hmm, can't say I've heard the 'getting to test out labour camp cycling abilities' argument used very often when advocating a reset

I lost my nation to 20 days inactivity in July, and just rerolled last week...if we got a reset now I would be ticked.

I don't think that most of CN's population would enjoy one. I would mind losing people.

I don't think I'd give up all of the history for a shot at "what if?". Well, maybe.

a reset is a terrible idea because it will accomplish nothing and set back the political world by some time. Its not like a reset would make alliances stop hating each other it would just mean that the ones with the most members would be in power and the ones with organization and skill at nation building would be put at a disadvantage for a couple months before rising to the top again.

In short all that would happen would be many people leaving the game and several months of building up with nearly no political action or drama that keeps CN alive.

You're going to lose more people than you'd imagine. Those more likely to quit are highly underrepresented on the OWF.

At lot of time has been sunk into nations but more importantly a lot of money has been sunk into donations. You're either going to have to carry over donations in a big way or lose almost all chance in people investing in more of them. And if you carry over donations at the rate they're worth to a small nation ($12 million = $20 RL seems to be market value) what's the point in resetting? To make it worse most people buy donations from other people. Those other people lose out on all their previous donations completely. You'd literally be pissing in the face of some of the people donating the most money to the game even if you do carry donations over.

I'm just afraid, if we do get a reset, what was this all for? I mean I like stability, the face of this game constantly changes. Of course a fear could be nations growing too big and being almost unconquerable but that's for the bold to decide when to go in for the kill.

I just don't like the idea of resetting, some things should just remain constant. And if you want to change the landscape of this game? Well, do it yourselves.

Can we hope for someone "accidentally" tripping over a power cord and saying oops?

A reset? What would be the point?

The game is past it's prime... Most people don't even have wonders to buy anymore, the game wasn't designed for nations to grow to the point they did. I'd love to see a reset just because I don't think the game is going to get any better from here..

While this will unfortunately never happen (because i know a lot of people who would leave) I would love to be there for the start of said reset. As i'm almost certain most of the major blocs today would form as massive alliances a la TE. But after the initial rush and wars to gain power it will settle down to what we have now and people forming thier own alliances up again. I would prefer a CN:SE2.

Basically that's a rinse and repeat just with a longer frame of time you'd be repeating relative to what wars cause one to do over again. It would be more monotonous then interesting as some the feel is anyway. Toss in the loss of every bit of work prior to a reset and we could very well see a significant number of players leaving. The way to keep it fresh is to continually make changes to the game. Adding more for players to focus on both has its benefits and disadvantages and its something admin would need to carefully consider.

I don't support a reset, I do however support changes to gameplay be they modifications of what we presently have or outright additions.

Hey, remember when CN was good?

The vast majority of people playing this game don't care about the opinions of the OWF. A large majority would just leave the game if there were a reset.

These people aren't just the inactives in every alliance, they're the casual player that decide wars and are appreciated in their own alliance.

Would be bad.

Erm.... YES

Part of the charm of CN is the persistent world sans resets. Otherwise it woudl be CN:TE or a million and one other online games. What you do stays with you. What alliances do, stays with them. The effects are permanent, go play TE.

I like the fact that there has been really no resets in over 3 years of this game (I believe there was one at the very extreme beginning but feel free to correct me if you know and I'm wrong), though it does create an unlevel playing field.

Would I personally be upset if there was a reset? No. I've played this game for far too long to care if my nation gets destroyed again.

Do I know others would be? Yes.

Do I think those people would leave? Yes.

Would those people leaving be worth it to create a level playing field? Probably not.

My two cents.

I like rinse and repeat games with nicely set time frames.

Continually making changes to the game.. Adding in new 'super wonders' every few months you mean?

Quoted, agreed to, and expanded with the suggestion of replacing the vanishing people with bot countries to sort out the inevitable trading mess

Countries and pixels come and go, it is the people who make this place any fun.

I wouldn't mind a reset.

The idea of a reset is just one of the reasons I would never put $20 into a donation for anyone. (cept that once L:\)

As a thought since most people who are pro reset seem to fear that nations are getting to large and are undefeatable (at least long term) we could simply have nations be more destroyable with the possibility of attacks destroying a wonder or making the wonder count proportionate to population or infra so that as a result of big wars nations actually have to focus on regrowing and don't find themselves with billions in their warchest and only out a couple of thousands of infra that they can repurchase.

In short it would at least make it so that major wars cause small semi resets more than they do now.

As do I on occasion however it only works for so long without changes before you see the player base become drastically reduced out of sheer boredom. It's an issue of replayability. Let's imagine CN was a single player game for a moment with all others being AI. Speed the time up so that 3 years passes more quickly. What would keep you returning and wanting to play a new game after the third, fourth, fifth, sixth, etc. time?


I have a great distaste for that sort of idea. It adds little to nothing new from a depth perspective and the lacking of depth in the game itself could be mentioned as a reason for the lack of interest. This isn't to say it needs to be rocket science. Some new functions or say reworking what already exists could have a profound impact on player interest while keeping the history the game presently has.

I'd say yes, but a lot of people I know and enjoy talking to would quit, so no.

I'd definitely quit. That's what TE is for.

I honestly can say I'd welcome it with open arms.

I wouldn't mind a reset, as long as I get a few months of *bang* first.

I don't think a complete reset is possible as it would be difficult to time it with agreements like peace terms. You wouldn't be able to reset friendships and prejudices, either. Resetting the ingame numbers might be exciting, but not as exciting as some may think.

Opposed, because it would change next to nothing.

Really, it wouldn't. It wouldn't have done anything during Pax Pacifica and it won't do anything now. Most people would still be in the same alliances. Most alliances would still have the same allies. The political structure would not change meaningfully. Obviously Citadel's NS relative to everyone else would go down, but they have enough high member count alliances connected to them that it wouldn't destroy their position.

After a few days of chaos, CN would go on. But with a lot less people.

-Bama

I don't think we need a reset.. instead I believe war should be less money-based, instead of being de facto immortal just because you managed to save up several billion dollars by.. uh, not doing anything. The sheer thought of having to deplete your warchest to really beat you would tire people.

If a reset was to happen I would want to see large scale game changes introduced at the same time... so the world we came back to was fresh new and even for experianced gamers challenging again.

No point reseting just for the sake of it.. if you reset you need to be adding something new to the game... perhaps trial this in TE mode first if they were serious.

This and because would change nothing in political relationship just in the power balance and for that there are wars.

No.

I might approve of this if the game would be completely restructured. These are some changes that are required:

1) Make the update occur every 25 or 23 hours, so that players from all over the world would be able to be on at update at least once in their lives.
2) Make the game realistic. There's so much into this, beginning from the fact that governments don't just give bonuses like +1 happiness, it is impossible to specify all those things here. Drawing from #4 in this list, a good suggestion would be to make population counts and infra to be separate. There is also the argument that this is just a game and it doesn't need to be realistic, however no game will ever be truly realistic so adding realism will not change the fact that this is a game.
3) Add alliances to the game, so that an alliance leader or leaders can be elected and ghosts can be kicked out, etc etc.
4) Make it so the game isn't all about numbers.
5) Restructure the war part of the game so it either includes tactics, or so that soldiers don't just pop out of thin air and die instantly in wars that occur over a period of 10 minutes around the update once every day.

All these things need to be done for me to consider my opinion of a reset remotely possible because implementing any of these things would require a reset. I know all these things probably shouldn't be brought up because of the "if you don't like it stop playing" but as with alliances i refuse to run from the problem and require of myself to stay and fix the problems, which is difficult as suggestions cannot be made if they have been turned down once. Perhaps what is required is even a game which one might refer to as CN2 or CN (not beta). So, in a manner of speaking, as the game mechanics lack, the time spent on it all makes up for it and makes it worth while and thus it is ridiculous to ask for a reset. Bleh i probably said some things that are very bad and sorry for that and so on and so forth but really this concerns me a lot.

Reset seems silly, especially when the game is pretty young (what 3 years?)

Second server sounds good though.

I think I would be ok with losing my nation and having to start over, however, I would be pissed on how a restart would affect my alliance's position in the world. I would much rather lose our #1 position due to war/politics (I think a perpetual nuclear war would be a blast) than having it randomly whipped out by admin.