Ursarkar E Creed
Oct 4 2009, 05:49 PM
As the title says, this is my apology to the Polar alliance in it's entirety. I am sorry for the lies I put forward about spying that put my entire alliance at risk.
I acted in an improper manner giving information (albeit non sensitive) to anyone other than the alliance is resided in as well as logging into an account that was not mine. This was quite a stupid thing to do and I am sorry for that.
I hope after this we can go our separate ways and move back to better terms in the future as I still think you're all a great bunch of people.
Well, I hope you can accept my apology in the end as I am sorry for what I have done and I can assure you it will not happen again.
I wish you all the best of luck in the future and am sorry to those people that I once called friends and how badly I've disappointed you.
Regards,
Ursarkar E Creed
AlmightyGrub
Oct 4 2009, 05:52 PM
The question of whether material is sensitive or not is only able to be determined by the people who hold the information.
I accept your apology on behalf of Polaris, you have been granted an opportunity to redeem yourself, I suggest you take it.
For future reference, you now fall into the category of Zero-tolerance.
o/
Ursarkar E Creed
Oct 4 2009, 05:53 PM
That's fair enough.
Thanks for giving me the opportunity to redeem myself.
Matt Miller
Oct 4 2009, 05:53 PM
Well it seems this issue is settled. Good show gentlemen.
Vilien
Oct 4 2009, 05:54 PM
Fantastic resolution.
Emperor Marx
Oct 4 2009, 06:12 PM
Heh. Good show, I suppose.
Jaymjaym
Oct 4 2009, 06:17 PM
Good luck, Ursypoo.
BraveNewWorld
Oct 4 2009, 06:18 PM
If you were truly sorry you would hand over any and all information that was passed from you to members of Pacifica. As it is, this seems like a fairly 1/2-assed "sorry I got caught".
Valdemar
Oct 4 2009, 06:20 PM
Good show, Polaris.
Bludshot
Oct 4 2009, 06:29 PM
I'm still disappointed in you Ursy. I guess I can move on, but I'll never forget the betrayal.
Ursarkar E Creed
Oct 4 2009, 06:32 PM
QUOTE (Bludshot @ Oct 5 2009, 11:29 AM)

I'm still disappointed in you Ursy. I guess I can move on, but I'll never forget the betrayal.
Nor would I if I was in your position.
At least this is a step in the right direction.
Zorn1
Oct 4 2009, 06:36 PM
Forgiveness is one thing
Trust/Friendship is another
You have the first one
You shall never have the second
Good Luck in your travels Ursarkar
Moridin
Oct 4 2009, 06:54 PM
At least you are owning up to it.
May we never cross paths again.
hizzy
Oct 4 2009, 07:08 PM
you know it's funny... I was looking over old logs I had the other day... back from when you were in Atarax. Someone from NPO had mentioned how they thought you were an annoyance on the forums and "a loud mouth"... I personally vouched for you when you left Atarax and joined NpO, particularly because that person was an IO and we still had the OoO thing going on.
How times change.
Voytek
Oct 4 2009, 08:02 PM
This whole situation makes many of the posts in
this thread considerably more interesting in hindsight.

I wish you well Ursy, if only because I remember you as being a cool guy when you were still a member of NpO.
Arwen
Oct 4 2009, 09:07 PM
I'm sorry to hear this. At least your doing the proper thing and appologizing to your friends for your actions. Betraying your friends is a difficult thing. You may never be trusted ever again, but through time you may redeem yourself.
I will miss seeing your artwork on the Polaris forums. You are very talented. I wish you the best of luck.
bkphysics
Oct 4 2009, 09:14 PM
Apologizing was a very wise move not only for yourself but your alliance as well.
Hopefully a lesson was learned.
cookavich
Oct 4 2009, 09:25 PM
This is better than you deserve.
Geoffron X
Oct 4 2009, 09:26 PM
QUOTE (bkphysics @ Oct 4 2009, 11:14 PM)

Apologizing was a very wise move not only for yourself but your alliance as well.
You should realize that Ursarkar is not currently a member of any alliance, though he is applying to Gramlins.
Chimaera
Oct 4 2009, 09:29 PM
QUOTE (Geoffron X @ Oct 4 2009, 10:26 PM)

You should realize that Ursarkar is not currently a member of any alliance, though he is applying to Gramlins.
And you realize what he was meaning, and the potential implications this could have had for your alliance.
mylife125
Oct 4 2009, 09:31 PM
Takes a man to admit to his mistakes..Very good show..
Geoffron X
Oct 4 2009, 09:32 PM
QUOTE (Chimaera @ Oct 4 2009, 11:29 PM)

And you realize what he was meaning, and the potential implications this could have had for your alliance.
I assure you that Ursarkar apologizing actually matters much less than you might believe from the outside.
elborrador
Oct 4 2009, 09:33 PM
Ursarkar having talked to you in private, i know you're genuinely apologetic over your actions.
Good luck in your endeavors from here.
Satsukage
Oct 4 2009, 09:34 PM
Good show. And redeem yourself!
x8BitL0gic
Oct 4 2009, 10:02 PM
Don't know you very well, except for that you made my awesome avatar. ;P
But I believe that apologies always mean something, especially if you're sincere about it.
Time heals all. Though I cannot speak for my whole alliance, I can get past the event and say that you're forgiven in my eyes.
I wish you good luck in your future endeavors, Ursarkar.
o/
Llanowar Elf
Oct 4 2009, 10:10 PM
It really did seem like a lame attempt at an apology. More like a "i got caught, so i have to apologize". Anyways, good luck elsewhere.
Ursarkar E Creed
Oct 4 2009, 10:19 PM
BNW beat you to that comment, Llanowar.
Emperor Mudd
Oct 4 2009, 10:23 PM
Still quite pathetic and half assed
Ursarkar E Creed
Oct 4 2009, 10:30 PM
Also, I was the one who came to Grub presenting the apology.
I felt it necessary and I asked if anything else was needed.
cookavich
Oct 4 2009, 10:44 PM
QUOTE (Ursarkar E Creed @ Oct 5 2009, 12:30 AM)

Also, I was the one who came to Grub presenting the apology.
I felt it necessary and I asked if anything else was needed.
5200 infra would be a nice penance.
Fireandthepassion
Oct 4 2009, 10:46 PM
An apology? A week later? Smells of a huge load. You're not sorry just like I doubt the people that knew you were giving out information aren't sorry. I agree with Cookavich in saying that this is better than you deserve.
Ninja Colt
Oct 4 2009, 10:47 PM
Extremely disappointing.
Weirdgus
Oct 5 2009, 12:16 AM
At least this matter seems somewhat settled now.
Good luck in your future journeys, Ursarkar.
kriekfreak
Oct 5 2009, 01:23 AM
Is this a "Sorry I got caught, but I need to apologize before NPO get's rolled cause they knew I was spying, and I'm now gonna join another alliance to make the people, I spied on, believe I don't want anything to do with NPO" type of apology?
If so, you did a good job.
Ursarkar E Creed
Oct 5 2009, 01:47 AM
I was actually thinking about going back to NPO, but I figured it'd be best if I went to another alliance.
I've always liked Grämlins ever since they came into existence, so I figured I'd give them a go.
Francesca
Oct 5 2009, 03:32 AM
Best of luck, Ursarkar. Everyone makes mistakes and I mean everyone. Some people in this announcement could think about that a little.
Voytek
Oct 5 2009, 03:49 AM
QUOTE (Francesca @ Oct 5 2009, 08:32 PM)

Best of luck, Ursarkar. Everyone makes mistakes and I mean everyone. Some people in this announcement could think about that a little.
That's funny, you're a funny person.
QUOTE
<Cager> man the internet super nerds are raging hard at you Ursarkar
<Cager> what will you ever do without their internet friendship
<Ursarkar> I noticed.
<Ursarkar> I'll cry myself to sleep, man.
<Francesca[NPO]> Lol, Ursarkar.
<Francesca[NPO]> Get used to it.
<Ursarkar> I couldn't give two #$%!s to be quite honest.
<Ursarkar> If they wish to hate me, let them.
<Ursarkar> Just means I'm doin' it right.
<Francesca[NPO]> I love your attitude. XD
Hawky
Oct 5 2009, 03:49 AM
i still wonder what your intention was, that you did all this spying in the first place... i mean spying because you were rather "pushed" by your government as sign of your loyalty is one thing, but that rather wasnt the case as i understood it. It rather originates from your own initiative. Now what kind of personality is this, that you betray those who were your friends and comrades for quite a long time. I mean what the hell, you wore the Polar Immortal Badge, recognized for astounding service in the line of duty for the New Polar Order. Awarded for Two Years of service to the order. Seriously what were you thinking?
Ursarkar E Creed
Oct 5 2009, 03:51 AM
Voytek, this is CN.
If you get head-up because someone hates you then you're not going to last very long, no that's not a threat, just a warning, mate.
Voytek
Oct 5 2009, 03:56 AM
You misunderstand me, Ursarkar. I'm really not too concerned about whether there is "hate" flying around; I am merely shedding some light on the spirit in which your apology was made.
SpiderJerusalem
Oct 5 2009, 04:13 AM
You are lucky that Polar is this merciful.
Good show by Grub and the rest, even if I would never have been this lenient
Ursarkar E Creed
Oct 5 2009, 04:24 AM
QUOTE (Voytek @ Oct 5 2009, 08:56 PM)

You misunderstand me, Ursarkar. I'm really not too concerned about whether there is "hate" flying around; I am merely shedding some light on the spirit in which your apology was made.

Sorry if my apology didn't seem sincere, but I actually am quite sorry.
It was indeed a stupid mistake that will not be made twice.
Voytek
Oct 5 2009, 04:25 AM
QUOTE (Ursarkar E Creed @ Oct 5 2009, 09:24 PM)

Sorry if my apology didn't seem sincere, but I actually am quite sorry.
It was indeed a stupid mistake that will not be made twice.
I believe you are sorry that you were caught, yes.
Ursarkar E Creed
Oct 5 2009, 04:27 AM
QUOTE (Voytek @ Oct 5 2009, 09:25 PM)

I believe you are sorry that you were caught, yes.

Yeah, I guess my Ninja tactics failed me this time.
AlmightyGrub
Oct 5 2009, 05:07 AM
QUOTE (Ursarkar E Creed @ Oct 5 2009, 08:27 PM)

Yeah, I guess my Ninja tactics failed me this time.

If a requirement of the apology was sincerity we would be in trouble about now... And Ninja you were, you would have gotten away with it except for those meddling kids/birds
Ursarkar E Creed
Oct 5 2009, 05:15 AM
QUOTE (AlmightyGrub @ Oct 5 2009, 10:07 PM)

If a requirement of the apology was sincerity we would be in trouble about now... And Ninja you were, you would have gotten away with it except for those meddling kids/birds
And that pesky dog too.
I'm sorry if it doesn't seem sincere, I guess I'm not good at wording things like that.
Voytek
Oct 5 2009, 05:25 AM
If you had not been ousted would you still be spying on us? Or would your good conscience have naturally asserted itself by now?
Ursarkar E Creed
Oct 5 2009, 05:29 AM
I'm sure if you check this supposed account I was on that there would not be anything recent, it was actually quite a while ago.
Mussolandia
Oct 5 2009, 05:32 AM
QUOTE (Geoffron X @ Oct 5 2009, 04:32 AM)

I assure you that Ursarkar apologizing actually matters much less than you might believe from the outside.
Haha, as clueless as ever.
kingzog
Oct 5 2009, 06:13 AM
QUOTE (BraveNewWorld @ Oct 4 2009, 08:18 PM)

.... this seems like a fairly 1/2-assed "sorry I got caught".
My thoughts exactly.
Somehow I think we're only getting half the truth as well.
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