So, I dunno about the Americans but it premiered last night in Canada with a 2 hour special. I quite liked it, it seems to mix in the BSG style camera work, quality of video (honestly, if anyone remembers just how great the video looked in BSG in standard definition) and the kind of darker tone and drama of BSG mixed in with what you could expect from a Stargate show, that's essentially what this is. I hold high hopes for the show. And maybe it's just me, but the Colonel reminds me of James Woods.

Starts Tuesday in Ireland and UK

Not sure when it starts in the US, but I do wanna watch it.

ANOTHER thread I need to keep out

I dunno, for the pilot episode I would've liked a bit more science fiction and a bit less drama, but I'll be watching the next few episodes. I really like doctor Rush though

Did he remind you of Balthar a little bit too?

When the Destiny 1st jumped out of hyperspace at the start of the show and the camera started zooming in the 1st thing I thought was, "That looks like a wraith ship made of metal."

It started yesterday on Syfy. Hell they even showed it twice, you missed it at 8 then you could watch it at 10.

As for the show, I don't know... it seemed too BSG to me, it's alright but I still much prefer the good old Stargate SG-1 with Jack and even Stargate Atlantis. Who knows, maybe the show will become more like traditional stargate but right now it is just too much of a BSG type of show, though I expected something like this would happen.


A little.

The show is meant to appeal to both veteran fans and new comers. The show by its very premise means it won't be terribly like the older shows. Remember, it's on a travelling vessel and the focus is going to be heavily on those on-board the ship, it won't be jumping around like SG-1 or Atlantis sometimes did. From what I gathered of the 2 episodes shown, the excursions to other planets will be incremental for supplies as the ship's computer deems necessary.

Yes I know, and I think this is unfortunate. It seems like a fine show but I still like the good old Stargate shows more. This is just a bit too spaceship oriented (like BSG) for me.

Basically ST: Voyager/Stargate hybrid. I like it.

The BSG similarities struck me as well. That series really slapped other sci fi shows in the face, frankly, and makes them appear even more childish then they already were. Black jumpsuits > red spandex. Guns and punches > kung fu laser bull !@#$. Humans > pale, long haired alien women (sometimes wearing red spandex). Unlike the other Stargate show (which I quickly abandoned), this new one is actually kinetic. It has a serious edge to it. The producers don't seem interested in coercing 10 to 12 year old's away from their WoW, so there's hope.

Maybe the space battle scenes in the beginning appeared silly to me (flying space pyramids? wtf?) but that's probably because I'm not familiar with the previous series. As of know, my ignorance of the back story and my concern that Tubbs McGee may become a Jar-Jar mark the only impediments to me watching the whole series. For the record, the commercials showing that girl skinny dipping don't affect my decision to continue on at all. Just wanted to make that clear.

Parasitic aliens posing as Egyptian gods used to rule the galaxy. The ships, crewed by humans, used to belong to them thus the whole 'flying pyramid' thing.

Egyptian gods is only part of it.

Also, Poseidon, those "flying pyramids" are the main motherships of the original series' first villain race. They're pretty staple among the fiction, but I don't think you'll see them again in the show.



The only Voyager similarities I see so far are that they are far from home. It's more of a BSG/Stargate hybrid.

I always liked the mythology in SG-1, but there's little hope for that. If they can bring out the level of writing they did for the other Stargate shows, they'll be fine. It kicked the $@! of the writing on every other show the SciFi channel ever made excluding BSG. Even then, Stargate was a lot funnier than BSG as a general rule.

The Ori are dead and the Destiny is in another galaxy so no Gou'ld/Tok'Ra. The Replicators are dead and the Asgard are stuck in the Pegasus galaxy. So what aliens are they going to throw in I wonder? Hope something good.

Must be the accent

No, but there are obvious similarities. They're both scientists, they both created the mess they're in (Balthar for giving Caprica Six the codes to the network, Rush because he just HAD to dial the Destiny) and neither of them is purely evil or good. Rush seemed to be an arrogant SOB at first, but consoling the girl seemed genuine to me.
Oh, and did I mention the scheming?

I just hope Eli doesn't become a laughable character. I mean, McKay was funny, but you still took him serious. Let's see if they can do that for him.

And what's with master sergeant Psycho? I'd expect the SGC to screen their personnel for stuff like antisocial disorders...

They Made O'Neill a gen. The man is the most insubordinate guy they could ever have. Worse part is, the USAF really did make him a gen IRL.

Didn't they specifically state that they WEREN'T in hyperspace, and that the ship was using some faster than light technology that they'd never seen before? It certainly wasn't a wormhole drive (urg... that was really half-assed.. although why WOULDN'T this ship have a wormhole drive?), and didn't seem to show the hyperspace field around it. I do hope they explain it at some point, especially since the Aurora class ships, as well as Atlantis, both used hyperspace.

They're actually gonna have a ton of trouble explaining the discontinuity of the tech with the previous two series, I think. ZPM's wouldn't last 100's of thousands of years, so the ship would have to have some sort of ZPM factory, along with a means of transporting them to wherever they're needed. Which would, essentially, give the crew unlimited power, once they find the raw ZPM materials. So they'll need some other power source, and an explanation behind it. As well as why the ship uses some strange new FTL drive instead of hyperspace or a wormhole drive (I *really* don't know why I can remember all of this sort of stuff, but not anything that would actually be relevant in everyday life. I only watch most of the episodes once...).

I'm not a big fan of the show, although I'll give it a chance to change my mind. It really felt like they were trying to redo the Atlantis pilot, but darker (far from home, can't get back, running out of air, minimal supplies, etc.). It actually makes me wonder how they're going to ruin it and manage to establish relatively easy travel between the Destiny and Earth this time. And the camera work bothers me (I was never a fan of the new BSG, unlike most here). Is it really too much to ask for them to hold the damn thing steady? Worst of all though, it didn't have any of the elements of humour that the rest of the franchise does.

It will be interesting to see if they use the stargate solely as little more than a transporter down to whatever planet they're orbiting at the time, or whether they'll go to several different worlds in each galaxy. Since the map Dr. Rush found only seemed to show a handful of galaxies, that *should* mean one of three things: 1) They'll spend an awful lot of time in each galaxy, making the countdown on each stop fairly (although far from completely) pointless (which would also allow for the establishing of races of bad guys for decently long story arcs), 2) The ship will spend a LOT of time in between galaxies, making the stargate essentially useless, or 3) The ship will dramatically increase its speed, which would cause a considerable drain in their already-lacking power, making that one unlikely.

I really hope they keep the SG-1/Atlantis movies in the old format (and I'd really like to know what extra important secret mission the Odyssey (I think) was on in the Atlantis finale).

Probably dropping off the 1st personnel at Icarus Base.

I also found it interesting when Sen. Armstrong killed himself to plug the air leak. Quite honorable.

Its not like the base was far away though... you'd think they'd be able to at least TRY to intercept the Wraith ship somewhere.

Voyager comparison makes me not want to watch it.

I only got to 10 minutes of it last night, so I'll have to sit down and watch it next week before I can really judge.

Not at all! No wait necessary.

the power of HULU:
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Hurlu, more like it. Stupid licensing restrictions.

By the Power of Youtube, I hereby outdo you.

hulu>youtube, but you do have a point.
try Hulu Desktop!

I'm pleased Stargate finally took a bit of a darker turn, and if they manage to hold their nerve instead of reducing it all back to a pure good vs. pure evil dichotomy (of which there are plenty of signs it will, since Rush is currently the only real character) it should be fun.


They need to kill Tubbs McGee post-haste. Shows what they think of their fans if this is the guy we're all meant to relate to.

By Tubbs McGee, do you guys mean David Blue? If so what's wrong with him? Also, I find it amusing to know that the Psycho marine is supposed to be 20, my age. Annnnd, anyone else thing that Asian IOA lady played by Ming-Na is hot for her age?

No you're not.

Not what?

Presumably, not the only one who things that Ming Na is hot for her age.

Also, Hulu Desktop probably only runs on Windoze.
*Arrnea runs Ubuntu on his laptop.

I'll give it a spin when I get home to my XP desktop.

Hulu runs fine on my Mac.

Screw Hulu, damned American services.

I too thought it had some BSG similarities.....like more sex!! Overall I think it has potential; I'll be watching next week!!

You know I was wondering, the Destiny doesn't use a hayperdrive or a wormhole drive. Maybe it's a warpdrive?

You mean it works by bending space around it? How does the hyperspace work?

Also, Derwood, I noticed the sex scene too. I was rather taken aback by that. You would not have ever seen something so explicit in SG-1 or Atlantis.

There was nudity in the very first SG1 episode

Butt nudity =/= sex.

But the writers/producers/creators/whatever didn't want the nudity in there. It was pushed by the network, to get more people to watch or something. They took it out in the final cut version (which seemed to me to be making changes just for the sake of making changes...).

Showtime SG-1, not censored SG-1 .... I have no real hope of a top quality sci-fi show again until HBO or Showtime decide to do one right.

Boobs dude boooooooooobs

Apophis checks em out.

I wouldn't be surprised in the least bit if there was an alien race like the Kazon...



The DVD has FULL NUDITY, not just the bootay.

I have seasons 1-6 on DVD...I should look into this. Also, even boob nudity =/= semi-nekkid wall humping.

Semi-naked wall humping < boob nudity as far as American standards go if you can't actually see anything in the former.

I distinctly remember seeing naked pelvis and pelvic action. Only an idiot or a child couldn't tell you what that was. This wasn't fun under the sheets, Delta. If they hung on that scene for 10 or 15 seconds longer, it could have been softcore porn.

The Pilot episode

Correct. This happens in Children of the Gods, the pilot episode. I have it on DVD too, and it is certainly there.

Mind you, the actress they got to play Sha're in the series wasn't nearly as attractive as Mili Avital, the actress who played her in the movie.

*rams head against wall* I don't know why you people are making such a deal out of this. The nudity in the pilot episode is not as explicit as what was shown in the premiere of Universe. It's also worth noting that it appeared in the AIRED version, not the uncensored version. Which is the huge difference.

So what will they show in the uncensored version?