OK, I don't play this game for any big alliances or politics, instead I just play with a group of friends and we're learning our way through the game together.

The other day, I tried to raid some tech from a player. His nation was 60 days old and inactive for 10 days (and I know that doesn't necessarily mean he's inactive, but was hoping). For the war reason I included just ask for peace. My now obvious mistake was that this guy was in some Siberian Tiger alliance much bigger than me and my friends. They told me to give the guy peace, and I did.

They asked for $2.5m in reparations, which seemed a bit high and was more than I have. I told them I didn't have it, and they told me instead, I could send them the money I do have ($1m) and 100 tech on top of it, or their alliance would attack and completely destroy me. Now, is it just me, or is that, like, way more than $2.5m?

P.S. - Maybe someone here would like to buy 50 tech from me so I can pay these guys the $2.5m and not have to send over all kinds of tech? Anyone interested?

You attacked and STA member and they asked for peace and reps. Dont see the problem, when you raid you have to be prepared to pay if you screw up (which you did) coming here and bawwing about it is very poor form and could get you rolled anyway.

You have the potential for a couple of really good lessons out of this:

1. Always check your raid targets for AA
2. Dont ask the peanut gallery about "fairness" when you are the one who pulled the trigger first.

So yes it sounds fair, again, they ask for peace and reps on a nation you attacked, did you think they would say "well just pay what you think is reasonable?"

Well, of course I started it so I'm not surprised I don't have your sympathy, that's fine, but I just kind of felt a request of $2.5m and a request of $1m + 100 tech are very different amounts?

I apologize if it was poor form to ask about it, it was just a question I had and didn't know where else to ask.

Well - you really messed up by raiding an aligned nation. Very silly of you.
I would suggest that you offer to pay them in tech deals in which you send them, say, 450 tech for 9m in aid. You won't make any money on it but get to keep your nation and they will get lots of tech at a really low price.
I would also do a fair amount of apologizing and groveling.

meh I just went with the stock hostile reply, you dont need to appologize to me.

I fought STA in the no cb war and have chatted with some of them from time to time, they are reasonable. Go to them and ask how to make it right (read Decomposition post, hes spot on). You'll be punished for it but you might be surprised at thier ability to be reasonable.

You might even make a contact or two in your dealings. Making a post like this though attempts to paint them as the bad guy for asking for reps, thats a mistake which you should attempt to correct ASAP.

you attack me, you pay me or die

lol

The only reason we offered the tech/cash alternative was so he could pay it immediately and move on. His group of friends were attacking aligned nations all over the place so we deemed them a flight risk if we peaced them out before reps were accepted.

The fact this guy offered and cancelled reps payments a number of times before finally coming through 20 minutes before we rolled tanks speaks volumes for him really.

To be fair, 100 tech is 3mil, so by not having cash on hand his reps went from 2.5mil to 4mil.


I'd say just the 100 tech would probably be more than fair, and teach the guy a lesson about how tech raiding an alliance is unprofitable (given his attitude I doubt he's raided 100 tech total ever)


Edit: Just noticed the OP is banned, so I guess the point is moot anyway.

Actually, 100 tech is about 1.5 million for sellers as they make a profit out of it. We aren't going to factor in a profit margin in reparations.

At the time he had 200 tech or so on him which is why we offered the tech/cash combo in the first place.

I dealt with this case and I can assure you that we were more than reasonable and extremely patient with this individual as he dragged the whole situation out over a few days. He launched a totally unprovoked sneak attack on one of our members then expected us to just give peace that involved no repercussions of any kind. When he discovered that wouldn't be the case he at first point blank refused to pay any reparations at all then when it was pointed out to him that this would mean an alliance strike team reducing his nation to rubble he agreed that he may pay reparations but he wanted to decide a figure.

Is it normal for any alliance to accept orders given to them in such a scenario or is it more common that the alliance makes the terms not the sneak attacker? The terms given to him were a fair representation of the damage done by his attack though since these things can be sort of vague to calculate it was a rough estimate with a little added on to make sure our member wouldn't lose out in any way.

After agreeing to pay reps to avoid destruction he then returned to evasion mode, "I don't have the money"

He was sitting on in excess of 200 tech at the time so a cash/tech deal was proposed to get this settled and over with. He continued to be evasive about paying at which point we informed him that he either accept our proposals or attacks would commence immediately after the next update.

Then lo and behold he somehow found the money he claimed he never had, sent aid offers to our member 2 or 3 times then immediately cancelled them. And with 20 minutes to go before the update made an offer which this time wasn't immediately withdrawn and our member accepted. And now comes here complaining of injustice when he was the one who deliberately launched an attack on an aligned nation?

Now if anyone can seriously find any injustice in all of this I would be interested to hear it. I notice he is now banned from the forum but his nation is still in the game.

Hi..
Then what should i have to do?? Its being good??

Buddy, you just learned two very hard lessons:

1) Don't go yanking on Superman's cape.

2) You don't mess with Siberian Tigers.

He's lucky he didn't attack an IRON nation.

$3m is minimum reps we demand.

Life isn't fair son - file this away as a lesson learned.

I like how you think lol

They have all the power. They could destroy your nation if they wanted to. You may not like it, but pay the reps and move on. Your not gonna get any support or sympathy from other nations.

Never attack a nation in an alliance, and if for w/e reason you do. Make sure the alliance cant turn around and kick your $@!.

Thats why you NEVER raid unless you sent a PM and he dosent reply AFTER a few days?