Viluin
Sep 27 2009, 11:02 AM
I'm sure many of you have heard about this already, but for those of you who haven't, here's the IRC log. In this version, useless chatter was removed to make it much more readable.
Link (it's still long):
http://starcraftmazter.net/cn/zhadum
Hell Scream
Sep 27 2009, 11:02 AM
Thank God someone did this, or I would have had to. I really didn't want to read the whole 3 hour logs for the third time and take out all the good stuff.
Also, if you want the full 3 hour version, PM me. I have it on pastebin.
King Xander the Only
Sep 27 2009, 11:03 AM
I laughed, I cried, I came. In that order.
Thanks for this.
Starcraftmazter
Sep 27 2009, 11:05 AM
I accidentally peed my panties due to the laugher while reading this

Also, lolhellscream
ty649608
Sep 27 2009, 11:05 AM
QUOTE (King Xander the Only @ Sep 27 2009, 12:03 PM)

I laughed, I cried, I came. In that order.
Thanks for this.
I did this same thing, only all at once instead of that order.
Good Read.
Hell Scream
Sep 27 2009, 11:06 AM
QUOTE (Starcraftmazter @ Sep 27 2009, 08:05 PM)

I accidentally peed my panties due to the laugher while reading this

Also, lolhellscream

Ohithar.
Will we get a Pacifican reply in this thread or radio silence?
Jack Diorno
Sep 27 2009, 11:07 AM
Thanks for posting this, I believe Zhadum is making his own post, but this will generate quite a bit of conversation.
Starcraftmazter
Sep 27 2009, 11:08 AM
Well we certainly didn't want to upstage Z, however it is nice having a very trimmed down log accessible.
Vilien
Sep 27 2009, 11:09 AM
Well, here it is vultures. Have your fun.
Lord Ditka
Sep 27 2009, 11:12 AM
First things first? you deff. need a TL;DR cause im lazy and not reading that.. second what?
Starcraftmazter
Sep 27 2009, 11:13 AM
QUOTE (Vilien @ Sep 28 2009, 03:09 AM)

Well, here it is vultures. Have your fun.
Vultures?
I'm no fan of Z nor his SO, however it seems to me the NPO leadership brought this upon themselves.
Hell Scream
Sep 27 2009, 11:16 AM
QUOTE (Starcraftmazter @ Sep 27 2009, 08:13 PM)

Vultures?
I'm no fan of Z nor his SO, however it seems to me the NPO leadership brought this upon themselves.
Psstttt, just blame Vox. All their fault, obviously.
Ephriam Grey
Sep 27 2009, 11:16 AM
See? I told you people, Zhadum isn't what you all expect him to be.
Ejayrazz
Sep 27 2009, 11:16 AM
Like he never has 'vultured' anything...
Chron
Sep 27 2009, 11:17 AM
HA!
It's the same damn trick they used against me!
Well...$%&@, man, that's !@#$%^&*.
Some-Guy
Sep 27 2009, 11:17 AM
Dear NPO,
Go away.
Regards,
SomeGuy
Haflinger
Sep 27 2009, 11:18 AM
QUOTE (Lord Ditka @ Sep 27 2009, 01:12 PM)

First things first? you deff. need a TL;DR cause im lazy and not reading that.. second what?
That is the short version actually.
Vilien
Sep 27 2009, 11:19 AM
QUOTE (Starcraftmazter @ Sep 27 2009, 01:13 PM)

Vultures?
I'm no fan of Z nor his SO, however it seems to me the NPO leadership brought this upon themselves.
I'm more referring to the perennial sideliners of CN, who complain about their boredom and do nothing to change it. Maybe this will give them a few days of fun.
Zoomzoomzoom
Sep 27 2009, 11:22 AM
Thanks for the cut down version. I started reading the original and wanted to shoot myself with all the side convos.
Peggy_Sue
Sep 27 2009, 11:22 AM
[18:32:44] <+Francesca[NPO]> How did you find out that Sethb was spying on NPO?
[18:33:14] <+Zhadum> As I recall mhawk gave us that
[18:33:21] <+Francesca[NPO]> And how did mhawk find out?
[18:33:26] <+Zhadum> Dunno
[18:33:51] <+Zhadum> I never asked, didn't seem important until way past the point it would have been helpful
[18:34:28] <+Zhadum> We considered mhawk to be a reliable source so we didn't feel it necessary to do any checks past him
[18:35:16] <+Zhadum> Anyhow, so that is how the Karma War started
Has Dr. Dan had anything to say in public about this?
kriekfreak
Sep 27 2009, 11:24 AM
I should have waited till someone would do this. Instead I've read 3 hours of logs including the sidetracks.

Also I'd like to add that I found the part in where Zhadum explains the Karma war from NPO's perspective the part that was most fun to read. To think that Gramlins that were the main force behind the Karma war would be neutral is mind stunning.
Tromp
Sep 27 2009, 11:24 AM
It's a tarp!
Teriethien
Sep 27 2009, 11:25 AM
Whee. Nice read. Is it strange that the part about his friendship with Doitzel is the one that stood out to me the most?
Viluin
Sep 27 2009, 11:26 AM
QUOTE (kriekfreak @ Sep 27 2009, 07:24 PM)

I should have waited till someone would do this. Instead I've read 3 hours of logs including the sidetracks.

Ctrl + f and type Zhadum.. that's how I got through the original logs.
Emperor Mccole
Sep 27 2009, 11:28 AM
not much here that isn't apparent from what has happened in public, but its interesting to see some of the smaller details.
Chron
Sep 27 2009, 11:29 AM
QUOTE (Teriethien @ Sep 27 2009, 05:25 PM)

Whee. Nice read. Is it strange that the part about his friendship with Doitzel is the one that stood out to me the most?
It was a bit of a shock to me, I don't recall them getting along all that often back in the day. But I do know that Zha had a real respect for Doitzel.
Chimaera
Sep 27 2009, 11:29 AM
That's somewhat eye-opening, especially the schism between the IOs and Moo, combined with the s&^% they pulled to bring you down.
Katsumi
Sep 27 2009, 11:30 AM
Heh...I was reading this in #mushroom earlier. Interesting stuff.
Arrnea
Sep 27 2009, 11:30 AM
Quite an interesting read.
The trimmed-down version is much appreciated, thanks.
I suspect we will get radio silence from NPO on this.
shahenshah
Sep 27 2009, 11:32 AM
Original logs were more interesting and entertaining. These ones are missing other interesting tid bits.
Chron
Sep 27 2009, 11:33 AM
QUOTE (Arrnea @ Sep 27 2009, 05:30 PM)

Quite an interesting read.
The trimmed-down version is much appreciated, thanks.
I suspect we will get radio silence from NPO on this.
Zha's not as big an idiot as me, so of course he's not going to go quietly.
deSouza
Sep 27 2009, 11:34 AM
Read the 3 hours version, a few questions left unanswered but overall an informing read.
lebubu
Sep 27 2009, 11:34 AM
[21:49:10] <+Zhadum> A running gag in the NPO is "To say MK is LUE 2.0 would be to falsely imply they have had a full updgrade"
How could you?
Chron
Sep 27 2009, 11:35 AM
QUOTE (lebubu @ Sep 27 2009, 06:34 PM)

[21:49:10] <+Zhadum> A running gag in the NPO is "To say MK is LUE 2.0 would be to falsely imply they have had a full updgrade"
How could you?

In his defense...That joke was coined back when
I was a member.
The AUT
Sep 27 2009, 11:36 AM
How does this deviate from what we already know about the NPO?
They keep secrets away from their general membership. Check.
They want to build quietly and become a power once more. Check.
There was a huge coup and argument between Sponge and Moo. Check.
bigwoody acts tough and then bails on the NPO. Check. (I hope most of you now realize this)
Things we already knew about the UJW and WoTC unless you were completely clueless. Check.
People bored. Check.
Arrnea
Sep 27 2009, 11:36 AM
QUOTE (Chron @ Sep 28 2009, 01:33 AM)

Zha's not as big an idiot as me, so of course he's not going to go quietly.
Never said Zha would go quietly. NPO on the other hand, might see fit merely to ignore this.
Chron
Sep 27 2009, 11:37 AM
QUOTE (The AUT @ Sep 27 2009, 06:36 PM)

How does this deviate from what we already know about the NPO?
They keep secrets away from their general membership. Check.
They want to build quietly and become a power once more. Check.
There was a huge coup and argument between Sponge and Moo. Check.
bigwoody acts tough and then bails on the NPO. Check. (I hope most of you now realize this)
Things we already knew about the UJW and WoTC unless you were completely clueless. Check.
People bored. Check.
Power struggles, their aftermath, and confirmation about bigwoody are all useful things to be gleaned from this.
As well as calling out Triyun as an idiot, which I've personally believed for years.
Arrnea
Sep 27 2009, 11:37 AM
QUOTE (The AUT @ Sep 28 2009, 01:36 AM)

How does this deviate from what we already know about the NPO?
They keep secrets away from their general membership. Check.
They want to build quietly and become a power once more. Check.
There was a huge coup and argument between Sponge and Moo. Check.
bigwoody acts tough and then bails on the NPO. Check. (I hope most of you now realize this)
Things we already knew about the UJW and WoTC unless you were completely clueless. Check.
People bored. Check.
Yes, we knew all that already, AUT, but what some of us didn't know about was the infighting (of sorts) between the IOs and the Emperor.
Some-Guy
Sep 27 2009, 11:37 AM
QUOTE (lebubu @ Sep 27 2009, 06:34 PM)

[21:49:10] <+Zhadum> A running gag in the NPO is "To say MK is LUE 2.0 would be to falsely imply they have had a full updgrade"
It must be a laugh a minute in the Body Republic.
Ephriam Grey
Sep 27 2009, 11:37 AM
Where can I find the original logs.
Chron
Sep 27 2009, 11:38 AM
QUOTE (Some-Guy @ Sep 27 2009, 06:37 PM)

It must be a laugh a minute in the Body Republic.
Only until the posts are removed before anyone has a chance to read them.
andre27
Sep 27 2009, 11:38 AM
QUOTE (Viluin @ Sep 27 2009, 07:02 PM)

I'm sure many of you have heard about this already, but for those of you who haven't, here's the IRC log. In this version, useless chatter was removed to make it much more readable.
Link (it's still long):
http://starcraftmazter.net/cn/zhadumI sense the rick-roll is strong in this link.
Lord of Destruction
Sep 27 2009, 11:39 AM
QUOTE (Ephriam Grey @ Sep 27 2009, 01:37 PM)

Where can I find the original logs.
MK Forums PG area... but you have to be a member for that
Voodoo Nova
Sep 27 2009, 11:39 AM
Sehr Interessant
OOC: translated to very interesting for those that don't know.
John Michaels
Sep 27 2009, 11:39 AM
I wasn't there at the time but if Zhadum is reading this, I must admit I'm curious if you could be more specific about how Triyun's "strategy" worked and how it $%&@ed the Order over.
Viluin
Sep 27 2009, 11:41 AM
EDIT: nevermind. Please delete this.
John Michaels
Sep 27 2009, 11:41 AM
QUOTE (andre27 @ Sep 27 2009, 01:38 PM)

I sense the rick-roll is strong in this link.

Rick rolls? What do you think we are Bel Air we don't waste our time on !@#$%* memes.
Vilien
Sep 27 2009, 11:41 AM
QUOTE (Lord of Destruction @ Sep 27 2009, 01:39 PM)

MK Forums PG area... but you have to be a member for that

LoD wins the award for greatest recruitment strategy of all time.
deSouza
Sep 27 2009, 11:42 AM
edit: NVm. Delete this too.
The AUT
Sep 27 2009, 11:42 AM
QUOTE (Arrnea @ Sep 27 2009, 06:37 PM)

Yes, we knew all that already, AUT, but what some of us didn't know about was the infighting (of sorts) between the IOs and the Emperor.
You honestly didn't think the dissent within NPO was apparent or did you all just want to hear it from the horse's mouth once and for all?
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