deth2munkies
Sep 26 2009, 10:04 PM
For the last few weeks, I've checked these forums almost daily. I've checked my nation...every so often. I've checked my alliance forums daily. I've made about 3 posts...in weeks.
There just seems to be nothing worth posting about these days. It's all the same old tired arguments which both sides have worn to the point of being worthless to talk about. Micro-alliances filled with virtual unknowns that either have yet to make a mark on the game or fade into obscurity. Treaty announcements that are all-in-all expected and mundane. None of these are really worth talking about in-depth to any sort of degree.
It seem the only talking point here is about the lack of talking points, which I quite frankly find disturbing. I've been here for a while now, just under 2 years, but I've never really seen it get this dead. Even RV seems to be phoning it in lately. So what is it? School? Work? General boredom? I'm honestly finding it hard to care about much of anything around here lately, is anyone else feeling the same way or am I just a bitter old man shaking his cane at the new kids on his lawn and reminiscing about the good old days?
Soularius
Sep 26 2009, 10:06 PM
Yes, yes finally I agree completely. I browse all these topics but I cant really reply because the topics are just so boring.
anenu
Sep 26 2009, 10:10 PM
1. Their be no evilz empire to fight against
2. This topic has been covered by several people already was their really a need.
Wentworth the Brave
Sep 26 2009, 10:12 PM
I agree with you as well. I am having fun talking to people and whatnot, but in general there is no spice.
inb4"itsallinprivatechannels"
Jack Diorno
Sep 26 2009, 10:13 PM
CN has become tainted by the morality brigade. Anything interesting like a war is now immoral, and starting one will get you shouted at from all over the place, so nobody does it now. I predict it will be this dead for a long time until finally the next global war, unless everyone takes their morals and sits on them.
elborrador
Sep 26 2009, 10:15 PM
meh just under 2 years isn't all that long really but your general sentiment is shared with, i think, a lot of people. It'll get better, it always does.
deth2munkies
Sep 26 2009, 10:16 PM
QUOTE (anenu @ Sep 26 2009, 11:10 PM)

1. Their be no evilz empire to fight against
2. This topic has been covered by several people already was their really a need.
It's not so much the lack of an "evil empire" so much as the lack of "anything interesting". There's nobody even talking about doing something interesting. There were plenty of topics about random things that were at least interesting to discuss between other downtimes, there's nothing much now. The thing I have noticed is an explosion of micro-alliances since the last war, and I think it's beginning to dilute the troublemakers and charismatic people from larger alliances into smaller, micro alliances with really no future in the grand scheme of things. So you have spats between 20-30 member alliances, but nothing but silence from the top 20.
elborrador
Sep 26 2009, 10:36 PM
QUOTE (deth2munkies @ Sep 27 2009, 12:16 AM)

It's not so much the lack of an "evil empire" so much as the lack of "anything interesting". There's nobody even talking about doing something interesting. There were plenty of topics about random things that were at least interesting to discuss between other downtimes, there's nothing much now. The thing I have noticed is an explosion of micro-alliances since the last war, and I think it's beginning to dilute the troublemakers and charismatic people from larger alliances into smaller, micro alliances with really no future in the grand scheme of things. So you have spats between 20-30 member alliances, but nothing but silence from the top 20.
you clearly are not hating on GOONS, NSO, or Bel Air enough then
USMC123
Sep 26 2009, 11:14 PM
I definitely am feeling the same, but I do think you missed this one:
http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=69980
Hyperion321
Sep 26 2009, 11:19 PM
I think people sunk so much time into this game pre-war that they want to take a break for a bit. That's how I view it, at least.
King Xander the Only
Sep 26 2009, 11:59 PM
People don't want any excitement or interesting events. That's why everything with potential to be different is chastised and prodded to an early death.
Legend of the Skies
Sep 27 2009, 12:04 AM
QUOTE (deth2munkies @ Sep 27 2009, 12:04 AM)

Treaty announcements that are all-in-all expected and mundane.
Clearly you missed my last announcement:
http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?s...c=68041&hl=
Gauner
Sep 27 2009, 04:14 AM
QUOTE (anenu @ Sep 26 2009, 10:10 PM)

1. Their be no evilz empire to fight against
2. This topic has been covered by several people already was their really a need.
I think the last person who made a topic like this got her wish very shortly thereafter.
ForeignOwnage
Sep 27 2009, 04:26 AM
yeah i agree... i know resort to spamming other alliances spam forums

not as fun as getting smashed or getting ready for war but its till fun

but yeah i agree with you nothing interesting at all
Alterego
Sep 27 2009, 04:26 AM
QUOTE (Jack Diorno @ Sep 27 2009, 05:13 AM)

CN has become tainted by the morality brigade. Anything interesting like a war is now immoral, and starting one will get you shouted at from all over the place, so nobody does it now. I predict it will be this dead for a long time until finally the next global war, unless everyone takes their morals and sits on them.
You were part of the morality brigade that won the war, this is the world according to Karma. You are also C&G who invade threads a dozen or more at a time repeatedly posting u mad and doing their best to destroy it, why would people bother posting anything when thats what awaits them. You want to change things, start in your own house.
Merrie Melodies
Sep 27 2009, 06:47 AM
GAH, its nothing more than the post return to school Malaise. Wait until break.
Uncle Stalin
Sep 27 2009, 07:03 AM
I agree completely, and tbh I felt this thread falls in with all the others, since there isn't much worth posting about how there isn't anything to post about. We really need someone to come in and shake things up.
Tiny Turtle
Sep 27 2009, 10:53 AM
All y'all gotta do is just hangout with funner, cooler people is all.
Vilien
Sep 27 2009, 10:59 AM
QUOTE (Jack Diorno @ Sep 27 2009, 12:13 AM)

CN has become tainted by the morality brigade. Anything interesting like a war is now immoral, and starting one will get you shouted at from all over the place, so nobody does it now. I predict it will be this dead for a long time until finally the next global war, unless everyone takes their morals and sits on them.
There was plenty of boredom before the "morality brigade", this always happens after a major war. Don't blame your inaction on some kind of perceived moral police force keeping you down.
Peggy_Sue
Sep 27 2009, 11:06 AM
There is too much "Private channels for the win". Seriously.
Things happen, that is a given ... but the world at large doesn't know about them.
Why keep so much private? This is a serious question.
(Do I need to do an OOC tag here?) This is a text-based political simulation. The text really needs to be accessible. Here is a good example:
InterestingEdit: When an interesting topic does come up the OP is inundated with a barrage of "Private Channels FTW". Rulers begin thinking "why bother".
supercoolyellow
Sep 27 2009, 11:13 AM
I think there are a few solutions.
1) Some one who is government in a major alliance, that is a member of a major bloc, should commit lueicide
2) Some rolls pink
3) Some one should create a super secret organization of large nations that either...
aaaaaa. Spais on people and then gets caught
bbbbbb. all at the same time goes rogue nuke on the governments of a large alliance
4) Declare October 1rst the new April Fools day, and watch how many alliances make fake announcements that involve an interrupting Kanye
5) An alliance posts a truly diabolical doctrine. Such as every nation in brown is to have an AA, or get destroyed.[color="#FFFFFF"][/color]
General Ozujsko
Sep 27 2009, 12:00 PM
We need some new decrees or doctrines.
Or a Blessing of Excitement from Almighty Admin!
Alterego
Sep 27 2009, 12:19 PM
QUOTE (Vilien @ Sep 27 2009, 05:59 PM)

There was plenty of boredom before the "morality brigade", this always happens after a major war. Don't blame your inaction on some kind of perceived moral police force keeping you down.
Get your open toed flip flops off our neck, we demand freedom
Legend of the Skies
Sep 27 2009, 12:37 PM
QUOTE (Vilien @ Sep 27 2009, 12:59 PM)

There was plenty of boredom before the "morality brigade", this always happens after a major war.
Maybe, but it certainly doesn't help.
QUOTE (supercoolyellow @ Sep 27 2009, 01:13 PM)

5) An alliance posts a truly diabolical doctrine.
GOONS tried that with the Pro-Piracy Act. It caused wide-spread !@#$%*ing and raging, but no nukes. Perhaps not diabolical enough?
Thierra
Sep 27 2009, 12:52 PM
I think the big bleh is that this is really the first fall in a few years when there isn't some scandal or something to hate on.
Two years ago, it was the
Unjust War, and that was the entirety of the fall (pre-war, during the war, and the implications of post-war). Last year it was the
War of the Coalition, which had a long run-up-to, and a long post-war because of
those implications.
This year, however, fall is just... normal. The early-summer war that was always have was large enough that it's fatigued everyone too much. This "morality brigade," which I don't really follow as much, probably doesn't help the situation. The lack of the usual enemies for the first time in years (really any of the evil axis-powers of the Initiative, and later the numerous Coalitions) has left a vacuum that no one has stepped up into just yet.
But it'll pick up. The best thing about these vacuums is they don't stay open for long... and when multiple people try to take said position, that's when the excitement will pick up again.
Oh, and deth: "Patience, young one"
deth2munkies
Sep 27 2009, 01:18 PM
QUOTE (elborrador @ Sep 26 2009, 11:36 PM)

you clearly are not hating on GOONS, NSO, or Bel Air enough then
I never knew GOONS enough to hate them in the first place, NSO is alright, and I just ignore Bel Air.
QUOTE (Thierra @ Sep 27 2009, 01:52 PM)

Oh, and deth: "Patience, young one"

Patience and apathy are two sides of the same coin.
Although it seems there was some drama in #mushroom last night...
Sal Paradise
Sep 27 2009, 01:22 PM
A lot of people haven't noticed that we won the game and are still lingering on the field.
supercoolyellow
Sep 27 2009, 01:49 PM
QUOTE
GOONS tried that with the Pro-Piracy Act. It caused wide-spread !@#$%*ing and raging, but no nukes. Perhaps not diabolical enough?
Apparently not, although maybe just a FAN style doctrine would be good just for the Lulz.
* see Yellow number 5
http://z15.invisionfree.com/Cyber_Nations/...showtopic=71137
Rebel Virginia
Sep 27 2009, 02:19 PM
QUOTE (deth2munkies @ Sep 27 2009, 12:04 AM)

Even RV seems to be phoning it in lately.
Wait, what am I doing lately? I am not familiar with this expression, but if this an insult I will not stand for it. I am as interesting as ever, and have not in the least lost any of my charm. God forbid that ever happens.
Chron
Sep 27 2009, 02:21 PM
QUOTE (Rebel Virginia @ Sep 27 2009, 09:19 PM)

Wait, what am I doing lately? I am not familiar with this expression, but if this an insult I will not stand for it. I am as interesting as ever, and have not in the least lost any of my charm. God forbid that ever happens.
I confess to be nicking some of it while you're not looking.
You really should put locks on your charm pantry.
Melchior
Sep 27 2009, 02:21 PM
Patience, my friend. It's only a matter of time before something will happen.
Daboo
Sep 27 2009, 02:50 PM
Methinks the OP doth protest too much. Get involved in your alliance. That's where the fun's at. This is my first time visitng these forums in weeks.
WildThing
Sep 27 2009, 02:53 PM
People need to stop giving out protectorates, and big alliances need to start destroying any alliance under 30 members. Death and destruction are the only solutions.
Legend of the Skies
Sep 27 2009, 03:29 PM
QUOTE (Daboo @ Sep 27 2009, 04:50 PM)

Methinks the OP doth protest too much. Get involved in your alliance. That's where the fun's at. This is my first time visitng these forums in weeks.

This man is wise. You should all take that to heart.
QUOTE (WildThing @ Sep 27 2009, 04:53 PM)

People need to stop giving out protectorates, and big alliances need to start destroying any alliance under 30 members. Death and destruction are the only solutions.
Hell ye-...wait
*checks TYR's member count*
OH GOD NO DON'T DO THAT
General Vengeance
Sep 27 2009, 03:32 PM
All games eventually come to an end, otherwise you'd still playing Pacman. Its just the nature of the beast.
CreativName
Sep 27 2009, 05:00 PM
For me, and my alliance, it's school, mainly.
School and work.. and holidays. September. You know?
Duncan King
Sep 27 2009, 10:50 PM
I've noticed it too. The run up to Karma war was fun because of the politics and the relatively high level of discourse. Now it's a bunch of small alliances I don't particularly like making pointless posts about things I don't care about and having to resort to sex jokes to do it.
It's like the Karma War took out not only the NPO, but also all intelligent and refined discourse here.
Venizelos
Sep 27 2009, 11:57 PM
QUOTE (Daboo @ Sep 27 2009, 10:50 PM)

Methinks the OP doth protest too much. Get involved in your alliance. That's where the fun's at. This is my first time visitng these forums in weeks.

considering your nation's age you seem to be a noob

after being around for two years as he has been alliances get boring and you get restless.
i've been around 1.5 years and i'm so bored of managing some small alliance sector. loved when i first joined GATO and thought working in mentoring was the most important thing in the whole world

QUOTE (Duncan King @ Sep 28 2009, 06:50 AM)

I've noticed it too. The run up to Karma war was fun because of the politics and the relatively high level of discourse. Now it's a bunch of small alliances I don't particularly like making pointless posts about things I don't care about and having to resort to sex jokes to do it.
It's like the Karma War took out not only the NPO, but also all intelligent and refined discourse here.
duncan you're part of "here" so if there is no intelligent discourse you're part of it
Elyat
Sep 28 2009, 12:27 AM
Nobody's doing anything new. NPO is still on the ground, half the sanctioned alliances are either neutral or sissies (see: Orange Team), electron sponge is gone, etc. The only "interesting" thing anyone can seem to come up with is attempts at necromancing the spirits of the UJP alliances. Problem is the whole act is tired and boring like the rest of the game.
Someone needs to step into the NPO's role and be effective at it, because the NPO is not in any shape to do it themselves and will not be for some time.
HeinousOne
Sep 28 2009, 02:14 AM
QUOTE (Elyat @ Sep 28 2009, 06:27 AM)

Nobody's doing anything new. NPO is still on the ground, half the sanctioned alliances are either neutral or sissies (see: Orange Team), electron sponge is gone, etc. The only "interesting" thing anyone can seem to come up with is attempts at necromancing the spirits of the UJP alliances. Problem is the whole act is tired and boring like the rest of the game.
Someone needs to step into the NPO's role and be effective at it, because the NPO is not in any shape to do it themselves and will not be for some time.
You know, I try and I try and I try to give friendly nudges to those all too kind folks over at Citadel but they just won't play along. Shall we move on and nudge someone else?
nippy
Sep 28 2009, 05:49 AM
QUOTE (Legend of the Skies @ Sep 27 2009, 08:37 PM)

GOONS tried that with the Pro-Piracy Act. It caused wide-spread !@#$%*ing and raging, but no nukes. Perhaps not diabolical enough?
I'm sorry, we'll try better next time.
Johnny Apocalypse
Sep 28 2009, 06:03 AM
Alternatively, you could make your own fun?
Instead of relying on others to do so for you, it's what I'm doing slowly but surely. I got bored a couple of weeks back so I know the feeling, but I'm getting all busy with some things now.
It's all in how you have fun, don't rely on other people who you don't know to make the funny happen. It's an RP game, so, Role Play?
Facade
Sep 28 2009, 07:12 AM
You aren't posting because...there...isn't anything worth posting.
The people that actually feel like they have something meaningful to say in every single topic just want to be loved.
King Chill I
Sep 28 2009, 08:54 AM
QUOTE (HeinousOne @ Sep 28 2009, 04:14 AM)

You know, I try and I try and I try to give friendly nudges to those all too kind folks over at Citadel but they just won't play along. Shall we move on and nudge someone else?
I blame Citadel as well for refusing to do everything in their power to make the game interesting for everyone else. Selfish !@#$%^&* that get off with their little stupid stats.
P.S. Heinous, you have worn out your act, its not sticking like it used to. Plus, in general, its very hard to just talk someone into being an adversary. I gave it a try but it was too much effort and not enough in entertainment return.
Last week i was reduced to trying to find people i dont really care for and declare on em but all those on my list seem to be terrible at maintaining decent sized nations.
DocOctane
Sep 28 2009, 09:40 AM
I think a lot of Alliances & Nations are taking time to reevaluate their internal workings. Especially those who took the biggest hit during the Karma Conflict. If you lose a war I'm sure you would want to address how and why, that you may be in a better position next time around. I''d bet there's plenty of "jockey for position" taking place diplomatically.
As for Hot War drama; You know the drill. The trend is nobody ever wants to jump first. You have to wait until you've massed a big enough bully squad to assure a win.
Stumpy Jung Il
Sep 28 2009, 12:57 PM
QUOTE (Alterego @ Sep 27 2009, 06:26 AM)

You were part of the morality brigade that won the war, this is the world according to Karma. You are also C&G who invade threads a dozen or more at a time repeatedly posting u mad and doing their best to destroy it, why would people bother posting anything when thats what awaits them. You want to change things, start in your own house.
Yeah man, we really destroyed every thread to ever hit these boards in the last month. It was awesome, no one was even allowed to post without us quote pyramiding the !@#$ out of them. Oh wait... that didn't happen... my bad. I keep mixing up reality and your exaggerated, misinformed dream world these days.
On Topic: Yeah, thats why I stopped writing Trashcat's Corner. Nothing going on whatsoever. Even the RAD - NSO situation was so boring that I refrained from posting on it.
ModusOperandi
Sep 28 2009, 01:39 PM
This is a nation-building/alliance building period; we just finished the largest war in history and the ancien regime is licking its wounds.
If you look closely, you'll see subtle activities by tptb (the powers that be) that clearly illustrate that they aren't quite sure what to make of this new world yet; others are quietly gathering smaller alliances under their wings for the security of new blocs.
I think that its an exciting time, to be honest; no one knows what is going to happen next.
I don't agree that the "moral" crusade has hindered anything; some folks received their just desserts and some new faces and dimensions to the treaty web are around the corner.
In other words, don't read too much into this; folks are trying to stay quiet for a reason so stay tuned..
Bob Janova
Sep 28 2009, 01:49 PM
There's actually been quite a lot recently – Vanguard leaving OUT, ODN's cancellations, GOONS's raiding doctrine, as well as the Zhadum stuff that just appeared. Maybe the malaise is yours, not the game's?
Yeah, a new evil overlord would be an 'easy mode', but there's plenty of fun around at the moment anyway.
Alterego
Sep 28 2009, 02:40 PM
QUOTE (Stumpy Jung Il @ Sep 28 2009, 07:57 PM)

Yeah man, we really destroyed every thread to ever hit these boards in the last month. It was awesome, no one was even allowed to post without us quote pyramiding the !@#$ out of them. Oh wait... that didn't happen... my bad. I keep mixing up reality and your exaggerated, misinformed dream world these days.
On Topic: Yeah, thats why I stopped writing Trashcat's Corner. Nothing going on whatsoever. Even the RAD - NSO situation was so boring that I refrained from posting on it.
Thanks for putting me straight about my dream world King of Purple. Im sure propaganda corner will return as it becomes clearer you (not you personally) are the new evil empire and you need to spin lies into truth and fantasy into your perception of reality.
Stumpy Jung Il
Sep 28 2009, 02:48 PM
QUOTE (Alterego @ Sep 28 2009, 04:40 PM)

Thanks for putting me straight about my dream world King of Purple. Im sure propaganda corner will return as it becomes clearer you (not you personally) are the new evil empire and you need to spin lies into truth and fantasy into your perception of reality.
C&G does have the power to take over the world at any turn. Better watch out Citadel. Also its always fun to hear you rag on the Corner when I probably still have PMs of you asking me to write about stuff, not to mention your thread begging me to return to the world stage by leaving "Karma's Closet" or whatever you called it. You just need to make up your mind on myself and my work once and for all, I think it would be good for everyone.
QUOTE (Bob Janova @ Sep 28 2009, 03:49 PM)

There's actually been quite a lot recently – Vanguard leaving OUT, ODN's cancellations, GOONS's raiding doctrine, as well as the Zhadum stuff that just appeared. Maybe the malaise is yours, not the game's?
Really? I mean Vanguard leaving OUT was seen coming for a while, ODN's cancellations were pretty cool, GOONS's raiding thing was people jumping on the slightest drop of water in a dessert of bore rather than something huge to talk about, and the Zha stuff just appeared so its kind of still sinking in (basically I'll give you that last one

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