Jaymjaym
Sep 26 2009, 08:00 PM
This is something that came to my mind a few days back.
The premise is that you pick out your CN government dream team; the people who if you were to create a brand new alliance right this second, would be the ones to fill the government spots. I'll try to keep the rules at a minimum to allow you to let your creative juices flow, but there are some basic rules that I feel should be included.
Rules- Any type of government is allowed; be creative, have fun.

- Including yourself is optional.
- Anyone can be used to fill your roster, current and former players alike(Banned members being the exception for obvious reasons).
- To avoid pages of "My alliances government is just what I want already!", please limit the use of your own government members to a maximum of 3 people.
Of course I can't force you to do this, but it will make the rosters more interesting to read.
Also feel free to explain your choices, and tell us why you chose X person for Y position.
And that's it! Let's see those fantasy draft picks start to flow.
Chron
Sep 26 2009, 08:04 PM
You do an example first.
Consider it a guideline.
AirMe
Sep 26 2009, 08:08 PM
Oh why the hell not.
I would take the King, Prince, Ministers and lower gov approach.
King - Archon
Prince - Ivan Moldavi
Minister of Foreign Affairs - Myself
Minister of Defense - Liquid Mercury or Arctic
Minister of Finance - tamerlane (only cause finance excellence is known to people inside the alliance)
Minister of Awesome - Tygaland
Minister of Trains - hawk_11
Recruitment - Dilber
Interior - Bros
Really just picked these on the experience I have with this people over the course of the game. And I put Ivan below Archon because Archon can diplomat his way out of any trouble Ivan might get the alliance into. Finance was the hardest because the ones that excel at the position are usually only known to their own alliances and not someone outside. Dilber on recruitment because he is the ultimate networking person. And bros could track down John Connor if you let him.
EDIT: Added hawk cause he threatened my life
President Kent
Sep 26 2009, 08:13 PM
Excellent idea. For the sake of indulgence I'll put myself as the leader.
FA: I think Ejarazz would be a great suggestion. And I'd probably put my good friend Fran as his Deputy.
IA: I'm fairly limited in my knowledge of IA people. All that's really required is hard work, and Daboo of GATO has that in spades. He'd also be a good general addition to a government. But as for movers and shakers .. well, how many resign themselves to Internal Affairs?
Finance: The '07 dream combination of EmperorCharlesVI and J Andres propelled an independent NADC to the fourth spot. They did a fantastic job.
Defence: I believe Schattenmann has experience as a MoD. He'd be great in government.
AirMe
Sep 26 2009, 08:16 PM
QUOTE (President Kent @ Sep 26 2009, 10:13 PM)

Excellent idea. For the sake of indulgence I'll put myself as the leader.
FA: I think Ejarazz would be a great suggestion. And I'd probably put my good friend Fran as his Deputy.
IA: I'm fairly limited in my knowledge of IA people. All that's really required is hard work, and Daboo of GATO has that in spades. He'd also be a good general addition to a government. But as for movers and shakers .. well, how many resign themselves to Internal Affairs?
Finance: The '07 dream combination of EmperorCharlesVI and J Andres propelled an independent NADC to the fourth spot. They did a fantastic job.
Defence: I believe Schattenmann has experience as a MoD. He'd be great in government.
IMO if you put Fran as Ejay's deputy at this point people would run the other way. Currently the general perception of her is that she is off her roccker. Other than that.....EJ and Schatt are great choices....
President Kent
Sep 26 2009, 08:21 PM
QUOTE (AirMe @ Sep 27 2009, 12:16 PM)

IMO if you put Fran as Ejay's deputy at this point people would run the other way. Currently the general perception of her is that she is off her roccker. Other than that.....EJ and Schatt are great choices....
Well, the general perception is wrong. Fran's got a lot of wisdom and is a hard worker; especially in FA. But I think she could also do well
under a person like Ejarazz for a while.
AirMe
Sep 26 2009, 08:24 PM
QUOTE (President Kent @ Sep 26 2009, 10:21 PM)

Well, the general perception is wrong. Fran's got a lot of wisdom and is a hard worker; especially in FA. But I think she could also do well under a person like Ejarazz for a while.
I can respect that position.
Believland
Sep 26 2009, 08:40 PM
GM- Crymson: He speaks for himself
GH- Jenko: One of the better IA guys out there
GI-Stetson: Amazing at all things recruitment wise
GT- Ante/XRCatD: Always coming up with ideas to better the alliance he's in
GC- Archon: I believe this is also self explanatory
GD- LiquidMercury: And this one...
GL- Skygreenchick: If anyone talked to her, you could see why
CaL- Hormones74: One of the better players in the game
Hept- VIdiot_The_Great: One of the smartest players in the game, along with hormones
Hept- Timberland: Another self explanatory
Hept- MonkeyDee: He's just too cool for school
Hept- Saber: He is also too cool for school
Hept- Skorb: He's skorb
Hept- Feanor: Self Explanatory
Hept- Ejayrazz: Another Self Explanatory
Minister of Propaganda- KaiserMartens or Schatt: Both are self explanatory
That's my "fantasy" government
Sargun
Sep 26 2009, 08:48 PM
I can't decide on positions because I'm too lazy.. but I'd definitely take (in no particular order) Ejayrazz, hawk_11, Schatt, Moldavi, Heft, Voodoo, Crushtania, Mia and Shurukian.
anenu
Sep 26 2009, 08:53 PM
obviously i would make multiple clones of myself and put them in every position
also Archon and Moo for fun good times.
jorjor110
Sep 26 2009, 09:06 PM
Triumvir: Van hoo
Triumvir: Moo Cows
Triumvir: Cornelius
FA: Charles in Charge
IA: Erixxx
Mil: Cable77
Econ: KaitlinK when she was in MA.
Recruit: Famzy
Advisors: Tygaland, Jenko, Ivan Moldavi, Alfred von Tirpitz, and Impero.
Uralica
Sep 26 2009, 09:21 PM
Was gonna do this but then I realised there were too many people I had to choose from

EDIT: If I were gonna do a trium though, would be AlmightyGrub, Grahamkeatley, and Tygaland.
D34th
Sep 26 2009, 09:23 PM
Triunvirate: Walford, Kris Chaos and noWedge.
Chalaskan
Sep 26 2009, 09:28 PM
QUOTE (D34th @ Sep 26 2009, 07:23 PM)

Triunvirate: Walford, Kris Chaos and noWedge.

This isn't the island man!
Wentworth the Brave
Sep 26 2009, 09:31 PM
Emperor: Ivan Moldavi
Council: Anu Drake, Archon, Dilber
Internal Affairs: Bros2
Foreign Affairs: Kevin McDonald
Defense: LiquidMercury
Finance: I can't really pick since I don't know most outside of alliances I've been in, but QH is bad $@!.
Propoganda and art: SeipherCaim
ChairmanHal
Sep 26 2009, 09:32 PM
Strictly objectively...
Emperor - VanHoo III (arguably the best alliance leader that ever played the game...charismatic, able to get people who would otherwise be at each others' throat working together as a team...despite his tendency to "table talk" too much OOC, a master of FA)
Regent - Chefjoe (always impressed me with his ability to step up and take charge...a major reason that Valhalla stayed a viable power post-noWedge and beyond)
Vice Regent - Kryievla (simply keeps Valhalla moving forward...and its not an easy job)
Minister of Foreign Affairs - Dilber (who wouldn't want the master of puppets?)
Minister of Internal Affairs - DarkMistress (takes care of business...one of the good things about NPO)
Minister of War - Ivan Moldavi (needs no introduction)
Minister of Security - Rebel Virginia (always knows more than you think, well connected)
Minister of Finance - TailsK (honestly should have been the permanent MoF of Ragnarok...tough but fair, good administrator)
Minister of Technology - Obiwan (simply the best of all time...understood how technology deals worked from all aspects)
Minister of Trade - GeekSteroids (one of the few people I know who actually had a flair for the job and liked it)
Minister of Recruiting - Omega (kept the pirate ship stocked with crew...our numbers at \m/ declined when he wasn't as active)
Minister of Education - Mr. Bill (how good? he's the reason that VanHoo III was so good)
Minister of Information - mpol (entertaining, no b.s., stands up for the alliance, believes what he says or comes off like he does)
Ombudsman - ChairmanHal (understands all aspects of the game from trade, to tech, to military, to FA...no tolerance for internal alliance b.s., not afraid to stand up as an advocate others regardless of rank/situation)
Sunstar
Sep 26 2009, 09:42 PM
QUOTE (jorjor110 @ Sep 26 2009, 11:06 PM)

Advisors: Tygaland, Jenko, Ivan Moldavi, Alfred von Tirpitz, and Impero.
I lol'd.
Anyway:
Regent: Electron Sponge
Vice Regent: Archon
Foreign Affairs: Ejayrazz
Defense: Virillus
Interior: Mary the Fantabulous
Economics: Golan 1st
youwish959
Sep 26 2009, 10:15 PM
I'm just gonna use a general setup.
President: Ivan Moldavi
Vice President: Electron Sponge
Minister of Foreign Affairs: Dilber
Minister of War: Astronaut Jones
Minister of Internal Affairs:

Minister of Finance: LiquidMercury
I didn't consider whether or not certain personalities would fit together.
Poobah
Sep 26 2009, 10:20 PM
Emperor: MikeTheFirst
Regent: Ivan Moldavi
Vice-Regent: Dilber
FA: AvengerNL
IA: Madoverseer
War: LiquidMercury
Economics: Matt Miller
Head Troll: Bill N Ted
Tygaland
Sep 26 2009, 10:36 PM
QUOTE (ChairmanHal @ Sep 27 2009, 04:32 AM)

Strictly objectively...
Emperor - VanHoo III (arguably the best alliance leader that ever played the game...charismatic, able to get people who would otherwise be at each others' throat working together as a team...despite his tendency to "table talk" too much OOC, a master of FA)
Regent - Chefjoe (always impressed me with his ability to step up and take charge...a major reason that Valhalla stayed a viable power post-noWedge and beyond)
Vice Regent - Kryievla (simply keeps Valhalla moving forward...and its not an easy job)
Minister of Foreign Affairs - Dilber (who wouldn't want the master of puppets?)
Minister of Internal Affairs - DarkMistress (takes care of business...one of the good things about NPO)
Minister of War - Ivan Moldavi (needs no introduction)
Minister of Security - Rebel Virginia (always knows more than you think, well connected)
Minister of Finance - TailsK (honestly should have been the permanent MoF of Ragnarok...tough but fair, good administrator)
Minister of Technology - Obiwan (simply the best of all time...understood how technology deals worked from all aspects)
Minister of Trade - GeekSteroids (one of the few people I know who actually had a flair for the job and liked it)
Minister of Recruiting - Omega (kept the pirate ship stocked with crew...our numbers at \m/ declined when he wasn't as active)
Minister of Education - Mr. Bill (how good? he's the reason that VanHoo III was so good)
Minister of Information - mpol (entertaining, no b.s., stands up for the alliance, believes what he says or comes off like he does)
Ombudsman - ChairmanHal (understands all aspects of the game from trade, to tech, to military, to FA...no tolerance for internal alliance b.s., not afraid to stand up as an advocate others regardless of rank/situation)
With the exception of one or two, your fantasy government is the government from hell, freshly piped from Satan's anus. I'd have you more as a magic 8-ball than ombudsman.
Essenia
Sep 26 2009, 10:40 PM
King: Crymson
Queen: Roquentin
Very easy decisions.
Jack Diorno
Sep 26 2009, 10:53 PM
Perfect lineup:
Leader: Londo Mollari
MoFA: Jgoods
The rest doesn't really matter.
Fallen_Fool
Sep 26 2009, 10:57 PM
Head of State: Ivan Moldavi
Head of Government: RandomInterrupt
Minister of Economics: Penguin
Minister of Foreign Affairs: Doitzel
Minister of Internal Affairs: Zbaldwin
Minister of Security: Electron Sponge
Minister of War: AlmightyGrub
King Death II
Sep 26 2009, 11:04 PM
Leader: Ivan Moldavi
MoIA: Bros
MoD: Bionic Redhead
MoFA: Jack Diorno
Space Monkey
Sep 26 2009, 11:14 PM
Gov= nobody
Azaghul
Sep 26 2009, 11:19 PM
King: Archon
Prince: Londo
Foreign Affairs: Airme
Finance: Myself
Internal Affairs: Steelrat
Military: Liquid Mercury
Communication: Delendum
Ryan Greenberg
Sep 26 2009, 11:22 PM
Emperor: AlmightyGrub
Minister of Foreign Affairs: Electron Sponge
Minister of War: Ivan Moldavi
Minister of Internal Affairs: Moo-Cows
Minister of Finance: Anybody but me
Lord of Destruction
Sep 26 2009, 11:22 PM
QUOTE (ChairmanHal @ Sep 26 2009, 11:32 PM)

Strictly objectively...
Emperor - VanHoo III (arguably the best alliance leader that ever played the game...charismatic, able to get people who would otherwise be at each others' throat working together as a team...despite his tendency to "table talk" too much OOC, a master of FA)
Regent - Chefjoe (always impressed me with his ability to step up and take charge...a major reason that Valhalla stayed a viable power post-noWedge and beyond)
Vice Regent - Kryievla (simply keeps Valhalla moving forward...and its not an easy job)
Minister of Foreign Affairs - Dilber (who wouldn't want the master of puppets?)
Minister of Internal Affairs - DarkMistress (takes care of business...one of the good things about NPO)
Minister of War - Ivan Moldavi (needs no introduction)
Minister of Security - Rebel Virginia (always knows more than you think, well connected)
Minister of Finance - TailsK (honestly should have been the permanent MoF of Ragnarok...tough but fair, good administrator)
Minister of Technology - Obiwan (simply the best of all time...understood how technology deals worked from all aspects)
Minister of Trade - GeekSteroids (one of the few people I know who actually had a flair for the job and liked it)
Minister of Recruiting - Omega (kept the pirate ship stocked with crew...our numbers at \m/ declined when he wasn't as active)
Minister of Education - Mr. Bill (how good? he's the reason that VanHoo III was so good)
Minister of Information - mpol (entertaining, no b.s., stands up for the alliance, believes what he says or comes off like he does)
Ombudsman - ChairmanHal (understands all aspects of the game from trade, to tech, to military, to FA...no tolerance for internal alliance b.s., not afraid to stand up as an advocate others regardless of rank/situation)
That government is way too large. And I agree with Tyga, which is something I'm not used to doing.
That said:
High King: Lord of Destruction
Regent: F15pilotX
War: Teeters
Finance: Bakamitai
Diplomacy: SeasonsofLove
All people I trust, whether it be to get the job done or because I know them extremely well.
Nick1a
Sep 26 2009, 11:23 PM
Regent: Archon
Vice Regent: Tygaland
Foreign Affairs: Prodigal Chieftain
Defense: Sir William
Interior: Rebel Virginia
Economics: Azaghul
Hyperion321
Sep 26 2009, 11:35 PM
not counting anyone from Sparta
Trium 1 - Dilber
Trium 2 - Archon
Trium 3 - Delta
MoFA - WickedJ
MoE - Bob Janova
MoD - Londo
MoIA - mpol
Chron
Sep 26 2009, 11:41 PM
QUOTE (Nick1a @ Sep 27 2009, 06:23 AM)

Regent: Archon
Vice Regent: Tygaland
Foreign Affairs: Prodigal Chieftain
Defense: Sir William
Interior: Rebel Virginia
Economics: Azaghul
If it werent for Archon being on there, I would think you would be trying to make an alliance designed purely to create lots and lots of epic trolling.
Or just self-destruct.
Drai
Sep 26 2009, 11:49 PM
QUOTE (AirMe @ Sep 26 2009, 07:08 PM)

Minister of Trains - hawk_11
Minister of Trains!
Was that GR that started that thing? I remember we put it into our gov once but I don't know if we were the first to actually do that.
SirWilliam
Sep 27 2009, 12:04 AM
Personally, I'm flattered by your comments Chron, but I can't help but giggle at the irony (and Tygaland is sovereign of an ally of yours, no?).
My line-up:
President: Archon
Vice President: SirWilliam
Minister of Foreign Affairs: AirMe
Minister of Internal Affairs: SPH (oh god what am I saying here?)
Minister of Defense: Anthony
Minister of Finances: Seerow/Tamerlane (uhhh, I couldn't really pick just one)
I'm sentimental, especially in regards to the jrcom crew, what can I say?
Chron
Sep 27 2009, 12:08 AM
QUOTE (SirWilliam @ Sep 27 2009, 07:04 AM)

Personally, I'm flattered by your comments Chron, but I can't help but giggle at the irony (and Tygaland is sovereign of an ally of yours, no?).
I know, but Im honest if nothing else.
Lord of Destruction
Sep 27 2009, 12:42 AM
QUOTE (Chron @ Sep 27 2009, 01:41 AM)

If it werent for Archon being on there, I would think you would be trying to make an alliance designed purely to create lots and lots of epic trolling.
Or just self-destruct.
Archon is a massive troll. People just don't realize it because he's so eloquent when he does his trolling.
Chron
Sep 27 2009, 12:44 AM
QUOTE (Lord of Destruction @ Sep 27 2009, 07:42 AM)

Archon is a massive troll. People just don't realize it because he's so eloquent when he does his trolling.
Oh I know this, but please note my emphasis on volume being the main description. Archon trolls very well, just not very often, hardly ever, in fact.
Edit: He may do so on other forums, but as I dont frequent them, I wouldnt know.
President Kent
Sep 27 2009, 12:52 AM
In the ideal world where such governments as these would be possible, perhaps S ileath might actually be a decent human being. If so, I'd make him my IA guy in no time.
kamichi
Sep 27 2009, 02:30 AM
Grandmaster: Archon
-Chancellor: kamichi
-Marshal: twoc
Enc. Leader: Denial
-Enc. Member: Tygaland
-Enc. Member: Delta
The best government structure which was never put into use.
Ephriam Grey
Sep 27 2009, 02:53 AM
Anu Drake and Walford - Propaganda
Ejayrazz and Schattenmann - Foreign Affairs
Arm Red, Seerow, bros2 and babyjesus - Internal Affairs/Military/Finance (Managed as one unit)
Essenia
Sep 27 2009, 02:57 AM
QUOTE (SirWilliam @ Sep 27 2009, 06:04 AM)

Personally, I'm flattered by your comments Chron, but I can't help but giggle at the irony (and Tygaland is sovereign of an ally of yours, no?).
My line-up:
President: Archon
Vice President: SirWilliam
Minister of Foreign Affairs: AirMe
Minister of Internal Affairs: SPH (oh god what am I saying here?)
Minister of Defense: AnthonyMinister of Finances: Seerow/Tamerlane (uhhh, I couldn't really pick just one)
I'm sentimental, especially in regards to the jrcom crew, what can I say?

God yes. This is a truly amazing choice.
Alterego
Sep 27 2009, 03:34 AM
Off the top of my head.
Leader: Pansy
Council: Doitzel
Defense: Tyga
Intelligence: Sponge
External: Dilber
Internal: Kryievla
Recruitment: Halflinger
Aid: UE
HalfEmpty
Sep 27 2009, 04:30 AM
Trium: Frans Joseph
Trium: Rebel Virginia
Trium: Mpol
Defense: GanTanX
Interior: Emo Chile Curella
Finance: Azaghul
Marshall of Trolls: TBB
Marshall of Troll Marshall: Peggy Sue
Current TPF members excluded for reasons of obviousnisity.
eyriq
Sep 27 2009, 04:54 AM
Yeah, I'd roll like this
Triumvir: Jack Shepard
Triumvir: Bob Janova
Triumvir: Dr. Dan
FA: Dilber
IA: AirMe
Mil: Big Z
Econ: Sceptor
Recruit: Van Hoo III
Advisors: Tygaland, Archon, Ivan Moldavi, Moo, and Sponge
Tygaland
Sep 27 2009, 04:58 AM
QUOTE (kamichi @ Sep 27 2009, 08:30 AM)

Grandmaster: Archon
-Chancellor: kamichi
-Marshal: twoc
Enc. Leader: Denial
-Enc. Member: Tygaland
-Enc. Member: Delta
The best government structure which was never put into use.
Making me answerable to Denial? Outrageous.
Also, hello.
Skippy
Sep 27 2009, 05:07 AM
I'm going to go with TIO's setup

Tsar: Tygaland
Royal Guards: Ivan Moldavi, Almighty Grub, Arctic Penguin
(Pretty self explanitory)
Bojars:
FA - Dajobo (I've done a lot of dealing with him in TIO with TIO-NpO talks, one of the best FA guys I've spoken to)
IA - Raydin (His work in TIO IA work was exceptional, I could count on him to get anything done)
Membership - Scorponok (One of the best recruiters I've ever seen)
Defence - Suvorov (Definately one of the best MoDefs I've seen in the game)
Economics - iMatt15 (In the swap from Aqua to White, iMatt had everyone ready in trade circles in a very fast time, had several outsiders (TOOL, TPF, etc) involved in the circles at an early stage)
==
Starets (advisors) - Electron Sponge, Mia, Crushtania, Kzoppistan, Duncan King, Uhtred
Oh I'll put my name in as a Staret also so I can do something there
avernite
Sep 27 2009, 07:42 AM
I'm going to make a government for the present, rather than some undefined past.
President: Crymson; main function: keep the rest working hard
Foreign affairs: Dilber; main function: foreign representation
Propaganda affairs: mpol or Syzygy; main function: OWF representation
Internal Affairs: Ejayrazz; main function: keeping the tech flowing
War: Vladimir Stukov; main function: getting people ready to blow stuff up
Simple, effective, and likely to collapse within a month. It would be a cool month, though.
Machiabelly
Sep 27 2009, 08:37 AM
Dilber, Ivan, Archon, Doitzel, Chron, Tyga, and Rebel Virginia.
Not sure which for which position, it wouldn't matter though, they would talk every other alliance into surrendering to us in about a week anyway.
Starfox101
Sep 27 2009, 08:53 AM
Emperor: Myself. I don't like following orders.
Second in Command: Comrage Goby - As loyal as it gets, I know I could trust him to support me on every issue.
Minister of Defense: Chimaera - He's a badass.
Minister of Foreign Affairs: Schattenmann - He has a way with words and the same political point of view as me, so the Foreign affairs direction would always be in line with mine.
Minister of Internal Affairs: Jason8 - He's a loyal friend.
Council: Doitzel, KaiserMartens, Vinzent Zeppelin, MrWhiteOcUK, and Bob.
Really, I would just chose people who I know wouldn't stab me in the back.
Ephriam Grey
Sep 27 2009, 09:03 AM
QUOTE (Starfox101 @ Sep 27 2009, 10:53 AM)

Emperor: Myself. I don't like following orders.
Second in Command: Comrage Goby - As loyal as it gets, I know I could trust him to support me on every issue.
Minister of Defense: Chimaera - He's a badass.
Minister of Foreign Affairs: Schattenmann - He has a way with words and the same political point of view as me, so the Foreign affairs direction would always be in line with mine.
Minister of Internal Affairs: Jason8 - He's a loyal friend.
Council: Doitzel, KaiserMartens, Vinzent Zeppelin, MrWhiteOcUK, and Bob.
Really, I would just chose people who I know wouldn't stab me in the back.
I'd join that alliance, assuming VE wasn't around.
elborrador
Sep 27 2009, 09:11 AM
emperor - Duffman
Regent - Tyga

for a serious one though:
Emperor: Electron Sponge
Regent: Van Hoo
Imperial Liason: Arctiv Penguin
Minister of Peace: Liquidmercury
Minister of Love: Ivan Moldavi
Minister of Truth: Dajobo
Minister of Plenty: Failbot (Not Sane)
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