Greetings all CN members.

Within my alliance there have been thoughts, form some of our most respective nation, leaving the ODN. Thankfully, most of them still have strong feeling toward severing our oath, and our commend goals. Other ODN member might go against of what I'm saying in this post, But I think People need to know that the ODN is not the same old alliance it first started out to be.

Yes, the same old rules are still in place, we are a defense alliance still. What has change in our alliance is our Politics.
The problem that robs us form ever having full internal peace within our structure of our alliance, is the lack of being able to accomplish peace with our neighbors. We are more haste with other nations, more trigger happy. We our not at war with anyone, nor do we have plan from ever starting one. Our goal is to defend other alliance, for we all know that it's only a matter of time until there is another karma war at our door steps. This fear of the next huge war is what gets me to talk.
I don't want to be in an alliance that is burning in a hell like state, because we choose not to make peace with fellow alliances.


Of course, even if we could get a lot of alliances on our side, A manger war would still outbreak. However, I want to be able to win it when it does come.



I'm only a humble nation who wants the simple truth about the relationship between the ODN and IRON. I want to talk to a high ranking member of the IRON alliance in a PM.

All I want to do is have a little private talk about our relationship between the ODN and IRON.

In this thread I want to seek out leaders and PM them.

What ever the out come I back my Alliance (The ODN) 100%. I just want to make sure that they do the right things that is good for the rest of my members; that serve under the same oath. I have no hard feeling towards any of the actions of my adimns/mod or senator.

Good day to you all.

lol you spelled admin wrong

FIRST ONE TO POST W00T

I don't see what there is to discuss man. When IRON needed you the most you guys decided to shrug off the Blood Brothers Pact and go on your merry way and pick new allies. By suspending that pact, and them canceling it, didn't it basically say everything? There's nothing really more to discuss.

I still wish to talk to someone high in IRON within the PM

Honestly, your best shot would have been to get on IRC or PM one of the leaders yourself. This should remain as private a matter between ODN and IRON as possible and you are only making it far more public than is needed.

Honestly with the ammount that we've discussed this with your government I could hardly call it the silent treatment. It's been pretty beat to death but if you really want our side of the story, shoot me, or any of the other councillors (see list below) a PM or try getting them on IRC (#iron). Or you could come over to our forum (which is likely to get a better response from the internal folks). At this point though we're quite happy to just live and let live, cooperate in OUT or whatever else but that's how it is and how I suspect it will stay.

FinsterBaby, President
Shan Revan, Secretary of State, IRON Councilor
Delgursh, Deputy Secretary of State, IRON Councilor
MCRABT, Minister of Defense, IRON Councilor
Griffon, Deputy Minister of Defense, IRON Councilor
Peron, Minister of Internal Affairs, IRON Councilor
Matt Miller, Minister of the Vault, IRON Councilor
Krash, Minister of Labor, IRON Councilor
Grizz Goose, Minister of Central Intelligence, IRON Councilor
bay102174, Minister of Tables, IRON Councilor
Shanenshah, Minister of the Dark Arts, IRON Councilor

Moving to World Affairs.

Edit: Yah, probably shouldn't post here. I'll leave it at "Bad show, ODN"

Oh this is gold.

Anyway, echoing the statements previously expressed, IRON probably isn't too fond of the way ODN shoved a knife in their back.

Thanks you'll get something out of me in the morning.

peace out

-referee whistles the end of the game-