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graniteknight
Hello My Name is Michigans_Own of The European Union until now we had paid for protection from the German Empire...

The German Empire in an attempt to silence me as a member of the EU today as of 5:00 EST on MSN President Chris of the German Empire had this to order of us:

"Christopher says:
Indeed I am here to talk to you about the RoA Blackout that Viktor has agree to do with EU. THe terms are that EU members are not to post in RoA threads and RoA is not allowed to post in EU threads. Also EU members are not allowed to speak to RoA on IRC or any form which include MSN. EU members are not to engage RoA publicly in other foreign IRC channels.
This also applies to RoA to not engaging EU members in 3rd party IRC channels."

After this request I proceeded to swear at Chris a few times i am supposed to be diplomatic but they attempt to throw their weight around against me and to violate my rights in talking to my friends.

Well I think I was Justified
Tom Litler
I suggest you ignore them. This "German Empire" is nothing more than a rump state with the best of its members leaving to form, you guessed it, the Republic of Aquisgrana. Not to say that TGE was ever more than a communist CADRE vassal and Frederick's tool of self-aggrandizement.
Russell07
Cool Story Bro.

I like a good bedtime story on the OWF now and again.
Vilien
More facts, less "what?".
Emperor Brutus
OMG! Declare Support everyone! Bad TGE!
James Maximus
TGE has a habit of trying to stop people from communicating with each other... Its happened quite a few times in the past. If you get tangled up with TGE nothing good can come of it.
James Wilson
QUOTE (Emperor Brutus @ Aug 24 2009, 05:31 PM) *
OMG! Declare Support everyone! Bad TGE!

My thoughts exactly.

And I still want that monkey.
Zurital
Why is TGE trying to silence you? Sorry I don't get it.
JBone
Is there any way we can work RAD, IS or PC into this story?

Bob needs its villians. tongue.gif
Unavailable Contact
QUOTE (JBone @ Aug 24 2009, 04:35 PM) *
Is there any way we can work RAD, IS or PC into this story?

Bob needs its villians. tongue.gif

I support TGE.

There, have at it.

Also, I'd like to know what would drive someone to do this?
graniteknight
TGE is attempting to silence me because honestly im sure they have a reason I cant really think of one


Maybe because I support alliances that TGE does not
I am not sure
ModusOperandi
Back on topic... interesting; I'd like to know more of this story.
Emperor Brutus
QUOTE (JBone @ Aug 24 2009, 05:35 PM) *
Is there any way we can work RAD, IS or PC into this story?

Bob needs its villians. tongue.gif


TGE is moving to pink, so there you have it.
Jacapo Saladin
You "paid for protection"? I am sure there are people out there who would protect you for free....
xoindotnler
And why again are you in USCN and making a announcement for The European Union?
Stumpy Jung Il
inb4Invicta.

Seriously, I wanna see some people threatening TGE like they did pink team.
graniteknight
the German Empire as it was to my understanding was paid by the Economic Commissioner of the EU La Hire to act as our foreign head, basically to handle things that popped up.
Unavailable Contact
QUOTE (Stumpy Jung Il @ Aug 24 2009, 04:47 PM) *
inb4Invicta.

Seriously, I wanna see some people threatening TGE like they did pink team.

<3 Stumpy.

I, for one, would love to see that as well.
graniteknight
QUOTE (xoindotnler @ Aug 24 2009, 05:47 PM) *
And why again are you in USCN and making a announcement for The European Union?

I was asked by La Hire to peacefully leave the EU
Fernando12 of USCN offered me a new alliance
wickedj
QUOTE (Stumpy Jung Il @ Aug 24 2009, 04:47 PM) *
inb4Invicta.

Seriously, I wanna see some people threatening TGE like they did pink team.


You know as well as i do that wont happen, Pink is convient to hate..kinda like purple

On topic, how about the back story? you paid for protection? how much? why? why did you agree to all these silly terms? did those terms include OOC methods of contact such as a phone call or snail mail?
Locke
lolwut?

1) Paying for protection? lol1.gif
2) If he's trying to silence you for a good reason (and judging by the fact you posted this topic, probably), you should listen. If it's not, then ignore him. Simple as that, really.
3) This sounds like something your gov agreed to: "Indeed I am here to talk to you about the RoA Blackout that Viktor has agree to do with EU." Assuming this Viktor is in your gov, of course.
4) Why is this in Alliance Announcements?

All in all, this announcment leaves me with one feeling at the end: facepalm.gif
Jacapo Saladin
QUOTE (Stumpy Jung Il @ Aug 24 2009, 05:47 PM) *
inb4Invicta.

Seriously, I wanna see some people threatening TGE like they did pink team.

Except the OP didnt even explain any of the situation, so honestly you just failed right here trying to compare CG's situation to this.

If you are going to try to put purple alliances down, atleast do it in way that doesn't make you look foolish, OK?
graniteknight
"On topic, how about the back story? you paid for protection? how much? why? why did you agree to all these silly terms? did those terms include OOC methods of contact such as a phone call or snail mail?"

I
did not agree to the terms set up and as such I do not know them La Hire did so
Stumpy Jung Il
QUOTE (Jacapo Saladin @ Aug 24 2009, 05:57 PM) *
Except the OP didnt even explain any of the situation, so honestly you just failed right here trying to compare CG's situation to this.

If you are going to try to put purple alliances down, atleast do it in way that doesn't make you look foolish, OK?

If you are going to take a completely un-serious post seriously then think about not posting before you look foolish, OK? This thread is clearly moronic at best, no one actually expects anyone to come to this guys aid.
Locke
QUOTE (graniteknight @ Aug 24 2009, 05:58 PM) *
"On topic, how about the back story? you paid for protection? how much? why? why did you agree to all these silly terms? did those terms include OOC methods of contact such as a phone call or snail mail?"

I
did not agree to the terms set up and as such I do not know them La Hire did so

Your government agreed to the blackout. You didn't. You left. Seems normal enough to me. If you don't want to follow the orders of your government, why would you stay? rolleyes.gif
graniteknight
as to the question of La Hire(Viktor) being our whole gov
no he was not he was only one of 3 me, La Hire and one other named Neron
JBone
QUOTE (Stumpy Jung Il @ Aug 24 2009, 05:59 PM) *
If you are going to take a completely un-serious post seriously then think about not posting before you look foolish, OK? This thread is clearly moronic at best, no one actually expects anyone to come to this guys aid.

You sir are a cynical cat, you underestimate the moral outrage that noble and honorable rulers possess. As soon as this situation becomes clear surely someone will be this mans white knight.
Locke
QUOTE (graniteknight @ Aug 24 2009, 06:02 PM) *
as to the question of La Hire(Viktor) being our whole gov
no he was not he was only one of 3 me, La Hire and one other named Neron

If you were in government and another gov member agreed to this, then your anger deserves to be pointed at him, not TGE. Now, I don't have the foggiest idea how your structure works or what kind of government you had, so was one person authorized to make this decision?
graniteknight
QUOTE (Locke @ Aug 24 2009, 06:01 PM) *
Your government agreed to the blackout. You didn't. You left. Seems normal enough to me. If you don't want to follow the orders of your government, why would you stay? rolleyes.gif



the full government of the EU did not under any circumstances agree to the blackout... only La Hire agreed to it
He is not the full government
Emperor Marx
QUOTE (James Maximus @ Aug 24 2009, 05:33 PM) *
TGE has a habit of trying to stop people from communicating with each other... Its happened quite a few times in the past. If you get tangled up with TGE nothing good can come of it.


Well, considering the circumstances in most of those situations I don't blame them. Also, this will end well.
Vilien
QUOTE (JBone @ Aug 24 2009, 06:08 PM) *
You sir are a cynical cat, you underestimate the moral outrage that noble and honorable rulers possess. As soon as this situation becomes clear surely someone will be this mans white knight.

I was feeling a little bit of white knight in me but it seems to be dying a slow, painful death.
Stumpy Jung Il
QUOTE (JBone @ Aug 24 2009, 06:08 PM) *
You sir are a cynical cat, you underestimate the moral outrage that noble and honorable rulers possess. As soon as this situation becomes clear surely someone will be this mans white knight.

Spoiler: Its gonna be me.
Kaiser Frederick II
Good times, now to set the records straight! smile.gif A long time ago, a citizen of the German Empire named La Hire wanted to found or help create the European Union, we agreed to it, and he offered to send aid to citizens of the German Empire for protecting it without a present Protectorate which is in the process of being ratified.

So anyways, I and a couple of Imperial Officials entered the newly established EU IRC channel. All was good till their Foreign Affairs Minister, (Michigan_etc) started to talk rather disrespectfully, and ejecting all TGE Officials from the channel who did not start anything. Within hours, La Hire and other officials of EU heard of his actions and sacked him from his duty as Foreign Affairs Minister for his utter lack of respect. EU Officials also wanted to follow TGE in its Blackout Policy which it had in place, and so, it was asked if he would do the same.

Tom Litler
QUOTE (Emperor Marx @ Aug 24 2009, 10:09 PM) *
Well, considering the circumstances in most of those situations I don't blame them. Also, this will end well.

Under what circumstances is it appropriate to attempt to pacify an foreign entity?
Captain Flinders
Why would this EU be barred from speaking with RoA in particular? And on the flip side, why would RoA be barred from speaking with the EU?

I dun get it.
Heft
QUOTE (Jacapo Saladin @ Aug 24 2009, 04:39 PM) *
You "paid for protection"? I am sure there are people out there who would protect you for free....

Exactly what I was about to ask. What?

Otherwise, I have no idea what your situation is, and the OP didn't illuminate things too much really. I'm not sure what the complaint, and I'm doubly unsure as to whether or not it may be justified. So, in the absence of being able to form any sort of educated opinion, I am simply relegated to blaming Pink.
Vilien
QUOTE (Kaiser Frederick II @ Aug 24 2009, 06:12 PM) *
Good times, now to set the records straight! smile.gif A long time ago, a citizen of the German Empire named La Hire wanted to found or help create the European Union, we agreed to it, and he offered to send aid to citizens of the German Empire for protecting it without a present Protectorate which is in the process of being ratified.

So anyways, I and a couple of Imperial Officials entered the newly established EU IRC channel. All was good till their Foreign Affairs Minister, (Michigan_etc) started to talk rather disrespectfully, and ejecting all TGE Officials from the channel who did not start anything. Within hours, La Hire and other officials of EU heard of his actions and sacked him from his duty as Foreign Affairs Minister for his utter lack of respect. EU Officials also wanted to follow TGE in its Blackout Policy which it had in place, and so, it was asked if he would do the same.

Some of this makes sense, and then the part where you knowingly swindle a micro-alliance pops its ugly head in.
Locke
QUOTE (Captain Flinders @ Aug 24 2009, 06:18 PM) *
Why would this EU be barred from speaking with RoA in particular? And on the flip side, why would RoA be barred from speaking with the EU?

I dun get it.

TGE has bad blood with RoA as RoA is comprised of former members who left on, if I remember correctly, less than good terms. And I suppose they're barring EU members from communications with them because they do so themselves and are pushing that policy on their protectorate. Not how I would conduct business myself, but hey, that's life. *shrug*
graniteknight
QUOTE (Kaiser Frederick II @ Aug 24 2009, 06:12 PM) *
Good times, now to set the records straight! smile.gif A long time ago, a citizen of the German Empire named La Hire wanted to found or help create the European Union, we agreed to it, and he offered to send aid to citizens of the German Empire for protecting it without a present Protectorate which is in the process of being ratified.

So anyways, I and a couple of Imperial Officials entered the newly established EU IRC channel. All was good till their Foreign Affairs Minister, (Michigan_etc) started to talk rather disrespectfully, and ejecting all TGE Officials from the channel who did not start anything. Within hours, La Hire and other officials of EU heard of his actions and sacked him from his duty as Foreign Affairs Minister for his utter lack of respect. EU Officials also wanted to follow TGE in its Blackout Policy which it had in place, and so, it was asked if he would do the same.


Talk disrespectfully to you Frederick Comrade Mine?
the EU (myself) was at this point attempting to find a more suitable protector rather then paying for the protection of TGE(which for all intents and purposes seemed non existent).

You sir in veiled ways warned me off attempting to court a better protector... In addition in my replies to you about your conduct regarding my friends were opinion purely if they ruffled your feathers so be it.
At this point I was angry with your alliance(namely you) for your conduct against other alliances and specifically about your veiled threats about not being allowed to seek a better protector. I decided to remove your men from my channel, and because your alliance members had autojoin enabled for my channel I removed them with the kick/ban feature whereas they were removed from my channel.


and to the statement about my "sacking" from TEU La Hire asked me to leave peacefully and in addition he promised to compensate me for losses/anguish/annoyance.
Kaiser Frederick II
QUOTE (Vilien @ Aug 24 2009, 05:24 PM) *
Some of this makes sense, and then the part where you knowingly swindle a micro-alliance pops its ugly head in.

Swindle? How so? At the time of the deal, TGE was having problems and couldn't send any aid, and they knew that. However, they wanted to send aid in good faith and wanted to help the Empire during its time of troubles. Both parties respect and appreciate each other, I am sure La Hire will be here soon.

Fritz
Aimee Mann
I have no idea what is going on but TGE banning all conversation with another alliance just seems plain childish.
Kaiser Frederick II
QUOTE (graniteknight @ Aug 24 2009, 05:26 PM) *
Talk disrespectfully to you Frederick Comrade Mine?
the EU (myself) was at this point attempting to find a more suitable protector rather then paying for the protection of TGE(which for all intents and purposes seemed non existent).

You sir in veiled ways warned me off attempting to court a better protector... In addition in my replies to you about your conduct regarding my friends were opinion purely if they ruffled your feathers so be it.
At this point I was angry with your alliance(namely you) for your conduct against other alliances and specifically about your veiled threats about not being allowed to seek a better protector. I decided to remove your men from my channel, and because your alliance members had autojoin enabled for my channel I removed them with the kick/ban feature whereas they were removed from my channel.


and to the statement about my "sacking" from TEU La Hire asked me to leave peacefully and in addition he promised to compensate me for losses/anguish/annoyance.


Wait for La Hire, and I am sure he will speak otherwise.

Fritz
Vilien
QUOTE (Kaiser Frederick II @ Aug 24 2009, 06:26 PM) *
Swindle? How so? At the time of the deal, TGE was having problems and couldn't send any aid, and they knew that. However, they wanted to send aid in good faith and wanted to help the Empire during its time of troubles. Both parties respect and appreciate each other, I am sure La Hire will be here soon.

Fritz

How many micro-alliances out there pay for protection? Is taking money the standard way to encourage the growth of a friend?
Tom Litler
QUOTE (Kaiser Frederick II @ Aug 24 2009, 10:28 PM) *
Wait for La Hire, and I am sure he will speak otherwise.

Fritz

Who cares what he says? Words tend to lose their meaning when you're auctioning your voice off.

La Hire will say what you want him to say, false Kaiser.

QUOTE (Vilien @ Aug 24 2009, 11:29 PM) *
How many micro-alliances out there pay for protection? Is taking money the standard way to encourage the growth of a friend?

I suppose it isn't, Vilien. Didn't you hear? Telling them who they are allowed to talk to and who not is apparently the was to set your allies on the path to success.
Tom Litler
Edit: double post.
Kaiser Frederick II
QUOTE (Locke @ Aug 24 2009, 05:25 PM) *
TGE has bad blood with RoA as RoA is comprised of former members who left on, if I remember correctly, less than good terms. And I suppose they're barring EU members from communications with them because they do so themselves and are pushing that policy on their protectorate. Not how I would conduct business myself, but hey, that's life. *shrug*

We are not doing it, EU is choosing to do so freely after being explained of what occurred, etc.
Tom Litler
QUOTE (Kaiser Frederick II @ Aug 24 2009, 11:33 PM) *
We are not doing it, EU is choosing to do so freely after being explained of what occurred, etc.

After "being explained" the situation to, you say? Did you also "explain" what might happen if they decided not to follow your policy?
graniteknight
QUOTE (Kaiser Frederick II @ Aug 24 2009, 06:33 PM) *
We are not doing it, EU is choosing to do so freely after being explained of what occurred, etc.

Kaiser Mein
the EU is not doing it
La Hire is doing it
he is your puppet


In addition if you want more proof of TGE's falsehood
They had me set up the Kingdom of Poland and Freddie there promised to help me out by sending aid and helping recruiting ect ect ect...
I got nothing from him, he did send over a committee of supporters of his to try and help me but they did little to nothing to foster the growth of TKP

TGE was too busy using its MittelEuropa Plan(as the whole thing was called) as nothing more then a member farm for the wounded and battered TGE(who was just coming off the Karma War)
Druss the Legend
Wait... Someone is being evil who is not on the Pink Team?

Inconceivable!!!!
graniteknight
QUOTE (Druss the Legend @ Aug 24 2009, 06:39 PM) *
Wait... Someone is being evil who is not on the Pink Team?

Inconceivable!!!!

do I detect a The Princess Bride Reference?
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