There is a lot of talk concerning a war declared by sparta. They aren't very happy that T.O.P. took the top alliance spot. They are calling the war The Black Hole war and it may happen soon. Is this just a bluff or is this for real. Tell Me what you think.

i doubt they care, even if they did i doubt they have the guts

You're not a member of TOP. Stop ghosting our AA in-game and on the forums please.

in the process of becoming one and i am on TOP applicant

Moved to World Affairs.

Rank is not actually all that important to politics. Even if people care about their rank, it's an entirely separate issue from political standing and war is a political mechanism.

[OOC]Declaring war over alliance rank would be like quitting your job so you could do better in CN. Yes, it's something you might like and a method that could possibly work for obtaining it, but it demonstrates some pretty idiotic priorities all the same[/OOC]

The OP strikes me as strongly influenced by the spirit of the n00b.

I am going to go out on a limb here and say that I think you may have made a miss step here

EDIT: not the applying part, but the starting a thread like this when applying for membership...

Well both were mistakes really.

I just didnt want it to sound like I was saying anyone joining TOP was a bad thing...

I could see that war happening, but not over alliance rank. To my knowledge there are some unresolved differences between the Superfriend alliances and the Citadel alliances, and although Sparta is allied with MHA (which is a Gremlins vassal), more likely than not Sparta will have cast its lot in with the Superfriends.

I'm not saying joining TOP is a bad thing, just that this particular nation applying to TOP is a bad choice.

"Black Hole War" is one of many codenames for the eventual Gramlin betrayal. Please get your conspiracy theories straight.

Good luck with that application.

So when NPO did it to GPA it wasn't about rank? I'm pretty sure the Woodstock Massacre has pretty much become commonly known as a crap CB.

A myth I believe....

Black Hole war you say ha?

I better go get my...



...ready for this one.


In fact, little does silly RV know that this is all a plot by the "vassal" MHA to get the top 2 alliances to destroy each other and snatch up the number 1 spot.

lol yueah i heard about it to u____u

Yeah dude, that's where RAD will declare war on Sparta. You were close!!

Tsk tsk... We are clearly working to unite Sparta and The Grämlins against Paradoxia, so that we don't need to sweat in another war (that is a pretty ugly thing, if you ask me, and something we're completely unprepared for, as you very well know already).
We just want that #1 spot to brag about it with our girlfriends and boyfriends (and with Chill), we're just like that. Then we will leave it to the GPA to later have an excuse to destroy them, and have TDO become again the biggest neutral alliance.

In fact, we do all of this for TDO, actually.
TDO


YAWN... Now, where was me?
Oh, yes: it's true that we're really the vassals of The Grämlins, anyway. Really.
We're the only ones actually using the �ümlaut so they asked to us first, and being us the hoopy froods that you all know... Sorry TOP, maybe next time?

We're also the masters of Farkistan and we swing with MK, but only on Sundays and Wednesdays, respectively.

Watch your back SuperFiends

Your Alliance Affiliation is currently listed as "The Order of the Paradox".
You still have a long way to go towards becoming a member of TOP, if you are even accepted.

Nevermind, you've been denied.


As for "The Black Hole War", I suspect this is just a silly ploy of MHA to distract us from betraying Gramlins... It won't work guys! We're onto you!

You should really consider applying somewhere else.

All this talk of war... didn't one just end like last week with the surrender of the TPF... let's just sit back and enjoy our reps and if all else fails in diplomacy I heard that talking things over a pint of beer works...

Hahaha, Sparta is no match for TOP. What a ridiculous theory.

TOP wouldn't even have to be good at fighting to beat Sparta. They would just have to not be absolutely miserable.

Real talk.

So as a member of Umbrella, which side do I join so I can betray FCC?

This kid gave me a good chuckle heh.

Sparta its time to prepare for war!

It's true, they told me themselves.

Someone please just tell me which side Silence is on so I can begin launching nukes

I'd love it if you got your facts straight, fine gentleman. NPO was #1 before they attacked GPA, by at least a week. You can check the Amazing Sanction Race if you do not believe me.

War over alliance ranks? Silly newbie, if anything, it'll be over the TOP monopoly on the works of Johan.

TOP hoarding the good stuff

This is true.

My impression is that NPO waited specifically until they were #1 so that nobody would say they only did it to pass them. I guess it didn't work.

You're not going to get in. Go away.

There is such a thing as planning in advance you know.

Gramlins told me to come and laugh at this theory so that people will think that it's a joke, and not at all exactly what we they are planning.

lol, the amount of people from MHA and TOP in here trying to pass this off as a tin foil hat movement are amusing.
We all knew this was coming sooner or later, stop trying to cloud the eyes of the public, you can't fool them!

There were perfectly obvious political reasons to declare war on GPA that had nothing to do with the CB as stated or the fact that they were #1. It was still completely unnecessary, but the fact that so many people think it was just about being #1 demonstrates a surprising lack of critical thought.

Now I am really confused: that's the same thing that Sparta told me to do. Which of the two are we vassals of, this month?

I'm sure this did wonders for your TOP application.

And Johan said to his followers:



what does this mean? we are all too busy doing other stuff (ooc: playing hoi3) to take such things serious.

Polaris.

They're using us to make Sparta and TOP destroy each other, but at the same time creating a fatal split in MHA that causes us to collapse - leaving Polaris to take #1.

Holy crap, WCR: they're right when they say that we're disorganized, as I never get the darn memos.
The only thing that is keeping our alliance The Äqua Village™ from falling apart musts be our Infinite Improbability Drive.

Sparta may be close in the rankings in score and NS but in terms of the # of nations in the upper ranks, tech, nukes, WRCs, etc. TOP destroys Sparta.

There is only one WorkingClassRuler and he still belongs to the MHA! Oh, you said WRC. That is something completely different. Now to carry on with the conspiracy theory of the day; If TOP destroys Sparta, that would make them the defacto new evil order of Bob. And since MHA would be the new number two we would soon share Sparta's fate. This is a tragedy waiting to happen. I must stock up on kleenex in preparation for the day.

what is this i dont even

And RV, the MHA being our vassals is a secret one of your more ridiculous suggestions.

I really don't think Sparta cares about the #1 spot... I'm 100% sure they don't.



NPO and Sparta are not the same alliances...

Of course, by that point the fact that GPA was about to get hit was obvious so people started fleeing. That's the reason behind GPA falling to #2.

edit: fine gentleman.

I cannot confirm/nor deny that the past several nights have consisted of making target lists.

On this: sorry, Sparta, but based on the performance of your top-tier nations last war they'd probably roll right over for TOP if this war happened. TOP would beat everyone 30k+ NS down and Sparta would be forced to surrender or face never being able to grow above 30k else they be knocked right on down like that arcade game with gophers and a mallet.

If Sparta *didn't* want to surrender I could see them pausing at 25k, buying the MP and SDI, and saving up like $300m, then building up to 31k NS and nuking TOP, and doing this over and over and over again. But they'd probably just surrender..

My reading comprehension isn't so good. LOL... carry on