<Master-Debater[BTA]> alright tell you what
<Master-Debater[BTA]> post a appology and its over
<zigbigadorlou> an apology?
<zigbigadorlou> of what?
<Master-Debater[BTA]> hell it could be "sorry that someone used my nation to nuke you"
<zigbigadorlou> k
<Master-Debater[BTA]> then its over and done with

I don't get it at all.

I feel the same

A explanation would be help full.

I don't get it at all.

I find it hard to believe that zig would bow to the demands of any alliance, especially BTA.

This highlights the hypocrisy of BTA.

Attack a BTA nation with conventional weapons, offer full reps? $30 million reps after being ZI'd.

Attack a BTA nation with nukes until that nation no longer exists? Just post an apology.

Watching sileath complain about it, priceless.

^^ Give this man a medal

I was going to put something here, but you'd simply use it as a weapon to put me one warn closer towards ban, like the coward you are. Mostly because you can't actually fight anyone who hates you, get such people banned to avoid getting rolled by them, betray anyone who gives a $%&@ about you, and hide in peace mode to evade the consequences of your actions.

[ooc]I love how even with sunglasses, it's obvious how hes trying to avoid making eye contact with your camera. You got served by Adam West.[/ooc]

Meh. Zig's situation is just another example of fran getting herself slapped. Glad its over.

I don't care about getting slapped. It's happened often enough in the past. You might fall over, you might get hurt, but you get up again and learn not to fall in the same way next time.

As for the OP, I actually thought this apology might be for the lies you spread about me here especially considering Sileath cleared my name here. But perhaps I expect too much of some people.

Wow Zig, you displayed an impressive amount of sincerity. Glad this is all over.

@ Sileath: You keep dodging the fact that you not only attacked BTA, but started a rogue alliance and recruited two other nations to attack BTA. You bear as much responsibility for those attacks as you do for your own. Call it draconian all you want, but in retrospect you should be thanking MD for the mercy of even receiving a chance at peace.

Hopefully youll have luck with wherever you land.

He might have better luck if he quit ghosting alliances' AA instead of going through the necessary process to actually join.

You know what...BTA hasn't done something worthy of the alliance they're ripping off to date. It's dissapointing to see as a former BTA member. But, as we say on this board, Expected/10

But as for Zig, I'm sure he will find a home where BTA won't be able to bother him any more.

You know what...BTA hasn't done something worthy of the alliance they're ripping off to date. It's dissapointing to see as a former BTA member. But, as we say on this board, Expected/10

But as for Zig, I'm sure he will find a home where BTA won't be able to bother him any more.

Well I’m so glad that the almighty crushthania and the MHA have final say in all BTA matters. Who are you to say if the BTA has done the BTA well or not? I’m curious, what thinks you have the right to say if the BTA is doing good things or not? What have you ever done to help the BTA? Hmm?

It’s funny how you say we bother ZIg. He nuked the BTA and we let him off with an apology. That’s the most evil and annoying thing any alliance could do to a person ever! EVIL BTA EVIL!

Even though Zig is smart an all, but you let him off wayyyyyy to easy, maybe a little more that an apology should have been given out

We very well could have held him at ZI for as long as we wanted. CN has set the standard that nuke rogues but the BTA does not just go by the "standard".


The BTA is a merciful alliance though. We talked to everyone involved and realized that Zig was not as at fault as Sileath. Because of this we decided that the lesser involved party’s should be let off with a lesser punishment and the ones more responsible have a harsher punishment. The BTA sees the truth in matters and is a merciful and honorable alliance.

Then what have you done about Sileath?

Since Sileath was the core of the problem involved and was the one who continued to make it worse we decided he should face the brunt of the punishment. Zig had the apology, Francesca and the BTA talked and decided she was at no fault, Sileath made things worse. Sileath is on the BTA PZI list for the foreseeable future.

Your just saying that...
Actions speak louder than words, lets see it then. No hard feelings Sileath

To: Sileath From: Ken T Kent Date: 8/2/2009 4:57:09 PM

Subject: Richard B Riddick

Message: Richard B Riddick has been expelled from TOOL for nuke-roguing on TOOL's leader, grahamkeatley. All tech deals and other financial assistance regarding him are to be ceased immediately.

- Jarkko
-- TOOL Inquisitor, Council

War/Peace Preference: Sileath is a peaceful nation. War is not an option.

Well I’m so glad that the almighty crushthania and the MHA have final say in all BTA matters. Who are you to say if the BTA has done the BTA well or not? I’m curious, what thinks you have the right to say if the BTA is doing good things or not? What have you ever done to help the BTA? Hmm?

It’s funny how you say we bother ZIg. He nuked the BTA and we let him off with an apology. That’s the most evil and annoying thing any alliance could do to a person ever! EVIL BTA EVIL!

Well I’m so glad that the almighty crushthania and the MHA have final say in all BTA matters. Who are you to say if the BTA has done the BTA well or not? I’m curious, what thinks you have the right to say if the BTA is doing good things or not? What have you ever done to help the BTA? Hmm?

It’s funny how you say we bother ZIg. He nuked the BTA and we let him off with an apology. That’s the most evil and annoying thing any alliance could do to a person ever! EVIL BTA EVIL!

Did you by any chance miss when Crushtania said that he was talking as a former BTA member?

Also, may I ask you how comes that the BTA didn't mind when one of its members (Rebel Virginia) was in any possible way trying to provoke the MHA, and you still don't hesistate in displaying your sarcastic "wit" against an Hitchhiker that mildly criticizes the BTA, recalling his past in it and specifying that it's on a personal level?
I'm genuinely interested in your considerations about this, should you wish to share them.


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Well I’m so glad that the almighty crushthania and the MHA have final say in all BTA matters. Who are you to say if the BTA has done the BTA well or not? I’m curious, what thinks you have the right to say if the BTA is doing good things or not? What have you ever done to help the BTA? Hmm?

It’s funny how you say we bother ZIg. He nuked the BTA and we let him off with an apology. That’s the most evil and annoying thing any alliance could do to a person ever! EVIL BTA EVIL!

Did you by any chance miss when Crushtania said that he was talking as a former BTA member?

Also, may I ask you how comes that the BTA didn't mind when one of its members (Rebel Virginia) was in any possible way trying to provoke the MHA, and you still don't hesistate in displaying your sarcastic "wit" against an Hitchhiker that mildly criticizes the BTA, recalling his past in it and specifying that it's on a personal level?
I'm genuinely interested in your considerations about this, should you wish to share them.


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All BTA members are allowed and encouraged to post whatever they are thinking. Just because it doesn’t fit in your alliances picture of good posting doesn’t mean he isn’t correct on some issues.

Yes, a BTA member announcing that someone who left BTA was on a ZI list and that the charter was suspended is considered wrong only in the picture of good posting of certain alliances.

You really shouldn't be lecturing anyone on "good posting".

I like being a member of TOOL, I get interesting in-game PMs.

Now if only he'd get off TOOL's AA.

Oh yes I did. What’s funny is he said that as a former member, when he himself has admitted to not being that involved with the alliance and just [ooc] logged in[/ooc] fought in the war and then [ooc]logged out[ooc/]. So he obviously is an expert in BTA culture and did some great things when he was in the BTA.

All BTA members are allowed and encouraged to post whatever they are thinking. Just because it doesn’t fit in your alliances picture of good posting doesn’t mean he isn’t correct on some issues.