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US of Europe
QUOTE (Cybernations Terms @ article 15)
(...) Warnings will be issued when offensive language or content is used, cheating or suspected cheating, war slot filling, spy slot filling, or any other form of violation of these terms of use or the official forums terms of use(...)


I know these rules have been changed, after certain alliances abused the system by declaring fake wars on each other to prevent other nations from attacking their friends (happened somewhere near GW II if I remember correctly), but my question is, are inter-alliance military exercises still allowed or not? Currently certain alliances are developing one large training operation, which will take place within a specific (short) period and where none of the alliances are engaged, or are likely to be engaged, in conflicts with other third party alliances. Furthermore, this exercise is supposed to be an exception, and is in no way ment as war-slot filling, but will be solely concerned with improving military organization skills of several alliances.

I would like to know the answer, or if it is possible to request permission after close communication about the exact details of the operation and the exact period. Rules may be that any other nation which is already being attacked by another CN player, or is attacking another CN player, are excluded of participation, to prevent individual abuse. I thought I'd better ask this before 700 nations are deleted rolleyes.gif because of illegal war slot filling. I will gladly give more details concerning the operation if this is required before a judgement can be made.
fireguy15207
I also have a concern regarding war slot filling. My alliance has a program where if your nation is about to be deleted, we declare on you, and try to liberate as much tech and money as possible before you are deleted in order to try and preserve as much of our strength as possible. Obviously, we PM them a couple of days beforehand, to try and find out if they really are inactive, or collecting on back taxes.

We have also had some problems with tech raiders declaring on our members because they see that they are inactive for fifteen days, so we feel the need to declare without attacking for a day or two, just to make sure no tech raider can get on our alliances tech.

Would that fall under such a rule? If you look at our history, we are peaceful, and have only gotten into one war, and that was only for a day, and we have no intentions on going to war again (not as long as I am the leader).
US of Europe
I hope that somebody finds time to resolve this matter, however this may not be urgently required. I assume that the lack of reply also suggests that at this moment a grey area exists around the regulations of war-slot filling. Inter-alliance war exercises are not ment as a way to abuse the war-declaration system, but are contributing to the alliance gameplay and also to offer alliances a chance on training, without having to attack other alliances because of a training, and therefore alliances can maintain their own dignity by not attacking players who merely play this game for fun and do not wish to intervere with other players or alliances.

However, one problem may be that alliances are declaring training operations during war times, to prevent the enemies of their allies to attack. To prevent this it will be required to uphold strict procedures and regulations, but I think this is do-able without adding additional stress to the admin- and moderation team, by not allowing (or accepting/respecting) exercises during critical moments and that nations already being engaged may not participate in such exercise. I think it would be pretty obvious when an alliance is holding an exercise during a political scandal that it can be marked as war-slot filling, rather than training, but when there are no reasons to believe a war may be brewing, and none of the participating alliances are engaged or engaging other alliances, I think such alliances should be given the option to exercise.
TheDave
I believe War Slot Filling is for times when wars are declared and no attacks are launched.

So long as attacks are launched it doesn't matter if the AA's are the same because war is actively happening and you are not simply declaring to stop a normal agressor to attack the nation
Strudeldorf
From what I've seen on this, it will be declared slot-filling no matter the circumstances.
Severus Snape
QUOTE
War slot filling
Intra alliance war drills are not permitted. This is deemed as war slot filling and nations involved will recieve in a ingame warning. Alliances are only permitted to declare war on individual nations flying the same affiliation as themselves if they have a legitimate in character reason. Military drills with allied alliances are permitted if both alliances are currently uninvolved in any inter alliance wars. If nations are caught fighting nations in an alliance they are allied to in the course of an inter alliance war they will recieve an ingame warning for illegal war slot filling.


From the game rules.

QUOTE (fireguy15207 @ Oct 25 2007, 01:55 AM) *
We have also had some problems with tech raiders declaring on our members because they see that they are inactive for fifteen days, so we feel the need to declare without attacking for a day or two, just to make sure no tech raider can get on our alliances tech.

Would that fall under such a rule? If you look at our history, we are peaceful, and have only gotten into one war, and that was only for a day, and we have no intentions on going to war again (not as long as I am the leader).

That is not permitted. As a general rule of thumb, if you do not attack by the second day you are liable to be warned for war slot filling.
scythegfx
So i cannot Declare on a nation in order to keep him out of peacemode unless i attack him atleast once?
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