I temp trade often and while this is minor, it would be an easy fix to save a few clicks per day. What I'm saying is that when you cancel a trade with a partner, it will say "Trade was Cancelled" and then right below that there could be something that says "Resend". Currently, you have to cancel, click the nations name in a new tab, delete the old trade, and then re-send the trade. Would be much simpler to have a resend button.

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Sure, why not. Unless it takes too long to implement because it's not really important to most people. But while we're on this track, why not an auto-accept for *certain* nations.

Say you're in a TC, you cancel one trade for a temp, then want to resend to the original. If everyone in the TC has autoaccept to all other nations in the TC, then there is no wait time for the person in the TC to re-accept. (I find myself in this situation at 16 days inactive, and I know the person in my TC would accept if he were online.)

i like this idea, it would make things a lot easier for a lot of people

there is absolutely no reason to NOT implement this, i like it a lot!

I like both auto accept and ability to resend a trade that you have canceled. Please implement this.

Auto-accept seems like a cool idea. How exactly would the interface for that look? In your trade screen, maybe there could be five text slots where you put the nation ID number in and if both nations have each other on their lists it auto-accepts.

If you cancel an approved trade, and then resend, it should be automatically accepted. If the other person cancels the trade, and you re-send, it should wait for approval.

The "re-offer" button on canceled trades seems reasonable, but I'm not sure about this auto-accept thing. It would make trade set swapping way too easy. I'm not sure that's a good thing. Right now trade set swapping is a bit of a gamble, with the potential for a huge reword. Auto-accept would take much of the gamble out of it, making it much more common.

you're right actually. I was just thinking of myself there. you're not supposed to be able to trade swap

Very good idea, i support this.

I'm currently testing this feature out in CN:TE. Feedback welcome.

I applaud admin for trying this out. I don't have a TE account, but please anyone who does let this thread know how it goes

Works well... Thumbs up from me.

Edit: It kept the original send date, Even tho I canceled and resent a trade it tells me we have been trading for 39days.

Not sure if this was by design or not, but I thought I'd mention it.

Yeah, I debated on that. It would be an easy change to reset the trade date but I didn't find it really necessary. Do you think the date should reset?

I thought it was a little bit strange that it didn't reset, but the length of the trade doesn't really mean anything, you don't get any benefit from having higher numbers, so I don't really have a pref either way...

7 nations, if you're temp trading

I actually just tested this feature with my nation in TE

if you resend the offer, of a trade that someone else submits to you, you can approve it, and it will automatically accept it...

I'm not sure if this is how you want it to be, but it looks pretty dang good to me.

I love this feature.

This feature is amazing. Can't wait until it's implemented on standard

I like this

This.

This is probably one of the most convenient things I have ever seen in CN as of yet

I temp trade all the time (my longest trade right now is 20 days XD) and this will make things SO much easier.

After testing it in TE - definitely add this to CN:S!

Glad to see all of the positive commentary. Can someone tell me exactly what it does (as I don't have a TE account?)

That's the way I would have it

If I were to make one edit to this, it would be to delete previous 'Trade Cancelled' and 'Trade Re-Sent' messages so that members aren't overwhelmed when they find that they have 4 or so 'Trade Cancelled' and 'Trade Re-Sent' messages in their inbox.


Otherwise, this is arguably the best update to date since the inclusion of wonders.



The trade offer shown above (because I'm on the receiving end), can be accepted straight away.

Thanks for the feedback. I'd like everyone who can to continue testing the feature. I want to make sure that this can't be exploited in some way to gain extra trade slots when the system would normally not allow you to send a new trade request. I can't think of how it could be done but it is a concern so I want to make sure this doesn't cause problems before adding it to CN:Standard.

I don't see a way either; however I'd like to point out that it's possible to have access to all the resources in the game at any one time, through having various cancelled trade offers (which I suppose don't count as a sent trade agreement). It won't affect the number of accepted trades though, of course. It looks flawless.

I don't know the answer to this because I haven't tried it out, but what happens if you cancel a trade offer that has been sent to you, whilst keeping it undeleted? Can the person at the other side (who originally sent the trade) click a re-send button? If so, what happens after that? If it says that the offer is pending and the person who received the offer has to accept the trade offer first before both nations gain from the benefits - then that's fine. If on the other hand it says that you can accept the offer straight away with a "Needs Approval" link or "Limit Reached" status - then there might be a slight problem.

Thanks a lot for the implementation, admin.

The person at the other side (who originally sent the trade) can click a re-send button. The offer becomes pending after that point, the receiver must accept before both nations receive the connected resources. Only the receiver of the trade offer may approve the trade offer after it has been canceled and re-sent.

I think part of the reason this won't happen is that canceled trades are automatically deleted it seems, so that will never happen (I tried to do this in TE recently actually, I temped for uranium last night, then was wondering if I would be able to use that uranium trade today but it was deleted already so I was unable to).

If you make it so that trades auto-delete 1 hour after being canceled it would solve this problem (if this doesn't already happen).

Well the mod team stumbled upon a problem so I've got to do some more thinking on this. I've removed the feature from CN:TE for now.

What was the problem?

Players could issue a trade, cancel it, issue another trade, cancel it, continue process and then re-offer them all and they could all still be accepted by the other players. One of our game moderators in testing was able to setup trades far beyond the trade agreement limit.

Just make it so you can only re-offer a trade under the following conditions

1) The trade was accepted by both parties previously (aka it was an actual trade at one point). So remove ability to re-offer trades canceled while "pending"
2) If it will not put you beyond the limit for trades (exactly how it currently works for sending trades)

So you cannot re-offer for trades that never were accepted in the first place, and if you have 5 active trades cannot re-offer (nor have them re-offered to you) trades.

Does that mean that the pending offers can all be accepted at the same time, or do you just mean that a nation can have access to all the resources in the game as stated earlier?

After digging further into the code it looks like I'm going to have to deny this suggestion. To make this work without abuse would require a plethora of new code which is a lot of added stress for the little reward that this suggestion offers. If you want to re-offer a trade just use the trade offer screen as usual.