OOC: As if the subtitle doesn't spell it out enough, the thread is classified. No, I am not claiming to have a functioining Battleship, yet. It will be a few weeks In-Game yet before that happens, this is rather the design phase. It's roughly equivalent to the Yamato-class of the WW2 Imperial Japanese Navy.

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IC:

Four men sat deep in the bowels of Franzharia Military Command.

"Wouldn't it be easier, cheaper, to just buy a modern one from our allies?"

"Buy, buy, buy. Is that all you know? Whatever happened to self sufficiency?"

"Enough. Our people desire things built here. Yamato shall give them that, while giving us a functional beast of war. Something we can truly call our own. Gentlemen, I give you the Kagura-Class Battleship. But it is merely the apex of Project: Yamato."

OOC: Teh spiez watch this with interest.

OOC: And I use the Super-yamato design for my equivalent battleship. When the ship goes public, you'll be hearing from the Imperial Naval Yards, they'll want the money for copyright <3

OOC: Why not buy plans for the Apollo Class Battleship? It's bigger and haz moar gunz than Yamato. (It's the RL Iowa-Class)

OOC: Naturally, Frost, your people will be well compensated for the inspiration.

Altea, I'm American already I hate ripping off US stuff, makes me look overly America-centric, lol.

OOC: Sorry, I also have the copyrights.

OOC: If you two are going to bicker, please do it elsewhere.

OOC: I'm not going to, Ranather.


PM me or get on MSN if you need info.

OOC: there is no worries ranather. I'll probably post something whenever ur ship goes public

OOC: Impossible!

OOC: Cool stuff. Like I said, I'll agree to compensate.

ooc: I would like to see a deathmatch between our ships. Heres mine.

The Ice-Breaker Class Battleship. Savor the minty freshness of destruction.

This class will consist of the newly created Support Battleship marked BBS. Both Battleship hulls have been adapted from plans obtained from Grunder Industries. Both battleships are also equipped with a nuclear propulsion systems and are capable of a top speed of 35 knots. This class is equipped with four 16-inch 60 caliber 3-barrel turrets, twelve 5-inch 50 caliber double barrel turrets, nine multi-purpose vertical missile launchers that can be equipped with a variety of missiles including anti-ship missiles, four RAM launchers, and six 35 mm CIWS turrets. It is designed to assist with fire support in fleet defense and coastal bombardment to assist landing operations.

Copy/Pasted from ISAF data thread.

OOC: You want to fight a piece of paper in a hidden bunker? Silly.

OOC: Of course that bunker will be rubble once this ship is done with it, lol, but actually when your ship is built I would like to see the fight these two would have.

OOC: The plan is to build just one for now. Capital Ships are expensive, lol. But we'll see.

OOC: No, the paper will cut the ship into pieces from its amazing paper cuts of unholy death!

Nothing can defeat a cargo ship with a tank or two on board! NOTHING!

OOC: What about a cargo ship with 3 or 4 tanks? Or a cargo ship with a battleship on top?

OOC: Anyways, let's try to cut the chatter down a notch, I have a ship to toy around with remember?

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IC:

"Anyways, starting with the Armor of the Ship. 16.1 Inches for the sides, 8 for the Center Deck, 9 for the Outer Deck, and 605mm in front of the turrets is standard on the base design. However, from several reports, the armor is not sufficient in certain areas against concentrated attack. The bow of the ship suffers most critically from this flaw."

"I would propose either directly thickening the area, or perhaps augmenting it. That is the obvious fix, but how to do it?"

"Precisely, we must find a solution to this problem as quickly as possible."

OOC: You silly boys and your toys. Be sure to upgrade it with modern anti-air weapons. Being blown out of the water twice for the same thing would be epic fail.

Likewise.. consider the implication of modern anti-shipping missiles carefully. I actually advise using a belt of custom fitted blazer style reactive armor if at all feasible. Time might march on, technology might improve, but the same critical flaws of battleships still remain the same. They make great magnets for bombs and such in a hot combat zone.

OOC: Which is why I am not just marching out a base Yamato, it is of course a kill magnet.

One of the men spoke.


"Of particular note is the poor jointing between the upper-belt and lower-belt armour which creats a weak-point just below the waterline, causing the class to be susceptible to air-dropped torpedoes. Yes, most nodern navies don't use such old tactis, but we'll have to make those joints firm to avoid trouble.

However, that problem is nothing compared to the rather short armour length due to the very long bow and stern. This, combined with the composite of the armor makes this design extremely weak in the bow. We'll have to shorten the ship a bit to cover more of the hull. Also, the armor was based on an old design, making it splinter and crack when hit by shells. The composite will have to be changed, perferably to the nickel-steel compound used by the New Cyrmu battleships.

There is an issue that we need to address: the propulsion. The current design's boilers results in a relatively low installed horsepower, which is too little to substain enough speed to catch up with other ships. Using either mobernized double-expansion steam turbine engines, an integrated full electric propulsion system, or a nuclear reactor will help solve this problem. Only then will this beauty be suitable for service"




OOC: Never try to go against a real Japanese when it comes to the Yamato.


Also, guess who the speaker is

OOC: Sister.. even with the improvements the Yamato is a piece of crap. But don't take it personally as I think that way about all modern battleships no matter how many pretty little gadgets people strap to them.

Bomb magnets waiting to happen.

though missile launched torpedoes are being made so it is possible to launch over the horizon, deploy a spread of torpedoes, and be done with it.

OOC: I know that battleships are useless in modern naval warfare unless we get those railguns.


Of course, the romance of battleships will never go away, and perhaps technology will improve to bring their return.

OOC: Even with rail guns they are still bomb/anti-shipping missile/mine/torpedo/and sharp stick magnets.. though they do have practical applications in land based warfare for providing fire support.

Just be glad that here on CNRP even the most obsolete notion can still stagger on given a bit of creativity(cough god modding).

OOC: A little suggestion look into creating some dedicated ASW destroyers and maybe some AEGIS cruisers and then design the battleships. That way your battleships won't be at such a risk.

OOC: That was what this thread was about. However, various conflicts forced this project to be scraped for now.


Let's keep to OOC to a minimum.

OOC: I'm still surprised someone hasn't come up with the gumption of creating an Aircraft Carrier Submarine based off the old Japanese seaplane carrier submarine. It is a proven concept and with VTOL aircraft you could host a nasty little punch.

Just throwing it out there!

no more from me.

OOC: Ah I see and sorry Sumeragi.

OOC: This OOC is about improving the battleship.

put in a weapon system that shoots projectiles out of the air; I'll give you the link to it when I can, but there is a vehicle with some complex instruments that can shoot RPG's & bombs out of the air. Wouldn't be hard to field it on a ship.

OOC: Ranather does not have the resources for those yet. However, his navy is fortunate in that it operates in waters where the only sizeable navies are either ally (Vektor, Mine, and Mergers) or complete neutral (BRs).

OOC: This, considering these factors, I feel I have some leeway to experiment with outdated Technology.

"Your points are well acknowledged, thouch Nuclear Power is currently out of the scope of our capabilities. Thus precipitating the use of Full Electric or the Modernized Boiler systems. I'll also have mine look into the feasibility of acquring the recommended composite.

Though we are building no less than His Majesty's Personal Flagship and Jewel of the Royal Navy, so I am assured that no expense will be spared."