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King Daniel the 1st
Ive noticed that since The Company left The Republic of Elite Colonies and caused Mars and REC have a cold war with The Company which ultimatly resulted in the death of CoMA all the alliances leaders involved with REC-The Company scandel lost their alliances. Cowman, Tech4sale, Hegemon Rob all are no longer in control of any alliance. Now theirs a dispute between Tech4sale, Hegemon Rob and Bryan(a leader of a alliance that was in CoMA called Simply Orange.) Meanwhile TUON, UNSC(Now The Brotherhood of Nod) and GDI are fine and they had no part in the dispute above. No offense to any of the former leaders mentioned above. I have respect for all of you but I couldnt help but noticing this. The Company and Mars still exsist though just without their former CoMA leaders. Simply Orange no longer exsists and they were also part of the dispute. I think the whole dispute with The Company, Mars and REC caused the downfall of the leaders mentioned above.
PremierJames
QUOTE (King Daniel the 1st @ Jan 29 2009, 12:38 AM) *
Ive noticed that since The Company left The Republic of Elite Colonies and caused Mars and REC have a cold war with The Company which ultimatly resulted in the death of CoMA all the alliances leaders involved with REC-The Company scandel lost their alliances. Cowman, Tech4sale, Hegemon Rob all are no longer in control of any alliance. Now theirs a dispute between Tech4sale, Hegemon Rob and Bryan(a leader of a alliance that was in CoMA called Simply Orange.) Meanwhile TUON, UNSC(Now The Brotherhood of Nod) and GDI are fine and they had no part in the dispute above. No offense to any of the former leaders mentioned above. I have respect for all of you but I couldnt help but noticing this. The Company and Mars still exsist though just without their former CoMA leaders. Simply Orange no longer exsists and they were also part of the dispute. I think the whole dispute with The Company, Mars and REC caused the downfall of the leaders mentioned above.


The Company did nothing to cause the downfall of the leaders.
It doesn't matter that we exposed Mars stealing of guides to IRON. Stealing guides is wrong.
It doesn't matter that REC's leader was involved in spying and Cowman809 was involved before it.
They caused their own downfall.
And sin has a way of exposing itself.
Please, stop this slander.
Coursca
What? English please.

I'm 100% serious, too. I have no idea what you're getting at here.
Delta1212
So leaders who caused issues later caused more issues? Fascinating.
cowman809
I don't follow.
iamthey
Yeah im going to have to agree with cour, what?
Penlugue Solaris
You are a silly, silly man.
KingSrqt
I have no idea what I just read.
Stonewall14
so are the three remaining members of CoMA going unite and sign more treaties? blink.gif
AllenKalashnikov
dry.gif King Daniel please think before posting /c that whole thing was gibberish to me.
PremierJames
QUOTE (Stonewall14 @ Jan 29 2009, 01:01 AM) *
so are the three remaining members of CoMA going unite and sign more treaties? blink.gif


Its going to be COMA2: Another failed bloc but this time with three.

I can't wait to see it popcorn.gif

AllenKalashnikov
QUOTE (PremierJames @ Jan 29 2009, 01:05 AM) *
Its going to be COMA2: Another failed bloc but this time with three.

I can't wait to see it popcorn.gif

Nod will NOT be part of it.
Stonewall14
it's the smoke, confederacy and the reggae messing with his emotions... emot-v.gif ehm.gif Premier James that sounds awesome CoMA II we go to sleep like a coma... awesome.gif
Stonewall14
QUOTE (AllenKalashnikov @ Jan 29 2009, 07:07 AM) *
Nod will NOT be part of it.



true dat...o/ BoN
Bobithy
FACEPALM

I think my brain just exploded... ohmy.gif

Strykewolf
QUOTE (KingSrqt @ Jan 28 2009, 08:57 PM) *
I have no idea what I just read.



Well, I have some idea... But. Not enough.

KingDaniel....my advise is to request a close to this thread as fast as possible.

I like ya, bud...but; I think the Ganja took control this eve.


ModusOperandi
Foreign Relations To-Do List:

Establish foreign agreements with the terrific, non-drama oriented alliances of the up-and-coming bloc called CoMA-2. New directive; keep tabs on the CN forum for their e-dramaz.
Penguin
I can't be sure if I understood this correctly but I can try to make some sense out of it.

Leaders involved in some internal CoMA dispute were all later removed from their leadership positions in their respective alliances, while those not involved were not removed. King Daniel then claims that the internal dispute was the cause of these leaders' removal and downfall. One could also argue that participation in the dispute was more an indicator of certain characteristics that make an alliance leader prone to removal than it was the direct cause of said removal.
PremierJames
QUOTE (Penguin @ Jan 29 2009, 01:27 AM) *
I can't be sure if I understood this correctly but I can try to make some sense out of it.

Leaders involved in some internal CoMA dispute were all later removed from their leadership positions in their respective alliances, while those not involved were not removed. King Daniel then claims that the internal dispute was the cause of these leaders' removal and downfall. One could also argue that participation in the dispute was more an indicator of certain characteristics that make an alliance leader prone to removal than it was the direct cause of said removal.


Hmm, so is he saying that they should have kept spying?
And, that I who exposed Mars guide stealing was in the wrong when all I was doing was making sure that intellectual property rights are not infringed?
Is he saying this????
Choader
QUOTE (AllenKalashnikov @ Jan 28 2009, 10:03 PM) *
dry.gif King Daniel please think before posting /c that whole thing was gibberish to me.

Yeah, same here. I think you gave me a headache.
PremierJames
QUOTE (ModusOperandi @ Jan 29 2009, 01:19 AM) *
Foreign Relations To-Do List:

Establish foreign agreements with the terrific, non-drama oriented alliances of the up-and-coming bloc called CoMA-2. New directive; keep tabs on the CN forum for their e-dramaz.


Hehe, CoMA-2 it sticks....
New Frontier
QUOTE (Coursca @ Jan 28 2009, 10:47 PM) *
What? English please.

I'm 100% serious, too. I have no idea what you're getting at here.

Once again, I find myself agreeing with you.
Penguin
QUOTE (PremierJames @ Jan 28 2009, 10:32 PM) *
Hmm, so is he saying that they should have kept spying?
And, that I who exposed Mars guide stealing was in the wrong when all I was doing was making sure that intellectual property rights are not infringed?
Is he saying this????

I have no idea what your internal dispute was about. I think he was just making a passing comment about a cause and effect, though it seems to me to be unsupported. It is often easy to confuse two effects that correlate together due to a common cause with a single cause and effect relationship.
PremierJames
QUOTE (Penguin @ Jan 29 2009, 01:35 AM) *
I have no idea what your internal dispute was about. I think he was just making a passing comment about a cause and effect, though it seems to me to be unsupported.


That and unmoral and general slander.
cowman809
QUOTE (Penguin @ Jan 28 2009, 10:35 PM) *
I have no idea what your internal dispute was about. I think he was just making a passing comment about a cause and effect, though it seems to me to be unsupported. It is often easy to confuse two effects that correlate together due to a common cause with a single cause and effect relationship.


I'll clear things up smile.gif

This destruction of CoMA was not because of disputes between member alliances. Its fall was a result of the internal fracturing of The Patrician Order, the secret alliance which practically controlled CoMA and advocated its foundation (me). King D misinterpreted a lot of what happened, naturally, since he was unaware of TPO and its various antics.
Newhotness
lol. so what are you trying to say exactly with this thread?
Carter
Yea, better luck next time.
King Daniel the 1st
Basically the leaders just kept causing trouble and they all got Perma Zied and now hate each other. It first started in CoMA and now they did it by spying on IRON and TORN. So in essence all the leaders in CoMA who caused CoMAs downfall destroyed themselves in the end. I should have explained it more clearly. Whoever is still confused after this post is a idiot.
Stonewall14
QUOTE (King Daniel the 1st @ Jan 29 2009, 01:26 PM) *
Basically the leaders just kept causing trouble and they all got Perma Zied and now hate each other. It first started in CoMA and now they did it by spying on IRON and TORN. So in essence all the leaders in CoMA who caused CoMAs downfall destroyed themselves in the end. I should have explained it more clearly. Whoever is still confused after this post is a idiot.



laugh.gif good luck...o/
Kevin McDonald
QUOTE (King Daniel the 1st @ Jan 29 2009, 07:26 AM) *
Basically the leaders just kept causing trouble and they all got Perma Zied and now hate each other. It first started in CoMA and now they did it by spying on IRON and TORN. So in essence all the leaders in CoMA who caused CoMAs downfall destroyed themselves in the end. I should have explained it more clearly. Whoever is still confused after this post is a idiot.


I'm faily certain the only person who is confused is you.
yesitsbobby
QUOTE (King Daniel the 1st @ Jan 29 2009, 07:26 AM) *
Basically the leaders just kept causing trouble and they all got Perma Zied and now hate each other. It first started in CoMA and now they did it by spying on IRON and TORN. So in essence all the leaders in CoMA who caused CoMAs downfall destroyed themselves in the end. I should have explained it more clearly. Whoever is still confused after this post is a idiot.



....what? You decided to reiterate a point that has been established (much clearer too, I might add) at least 50 times in just as many threads...Call me an "idiot" but I still don't see a point to this thread.


Side question: With the downfall of the CoMA, does the Union of Nations still hold any treaties?
Juan Valdez
Quality OP and follow-up statements.

Would read again.
Aimee Mann
I commend King Daniel the 1st on his wisdom.
Lord Boris
QUOTE (King Daniel the 1st @ Jan 29 2009, 06:26 AM) *
Basically the leaders just kept causing trouble and they all got Perma Zied and now hate each other. It first started in CoMA and now they did it by spying on IRON and TORN. So in essence all the leaders in CoMA who caused CoMAs downfall destroyed themselves in the end. I should have explained it more clearly. Whoever is still confused after this post is a idiot.


After reading that bolded part, I just had to go and look something up:

QUOTE
Confederate Empire (King Daniel the 1st) - You cannot declare war on this nation because they are not within your range of nations to declare war on. View your My Ranking screen to find nations within your range.


You live... for now.
Coursca
QUOTE (King Daniel the 1st @ Jan 29 2009, 07:26 AM) *
Whoever is still confused after this post is a idiot.


did you King Daniel really too--...err...

... rolleyes.gif

I will withhold from further comment. dry.gif
Felix von Agnu
QUOTE (King Daniel the 1st @ Jan 29 2009, 07:26 AM) *
Basically the leaders just kept causing trouble and they all got Perma Zied and now hate each other. It first started in CoMA and now they did it by spying on IRON and TORN. So in essence all the leaders in CoMA who caused CoMAs downfall destroyed themselves in the end. I should have explained it more clearly. Whoever is still confused after this post is a idiot.


Did this point really need its own thread? By the way, I'm expecting 50 tech from you. One for every brain cell you killed. You break 'em, you buy 'em.
ender land
Congrats to UoN!
yesitsbobby
QUOTE (Felix von Agnu @ Jan 29 2009, 12:43 PM) *
Did this point really need its own thread? By the way, I'm expecting 50 tech from you. One for every brain cell you killed. You break 'em, you buy 'em.


I don't think he has enough aid slots to pull that one off emot-v.gif
Dochartaigh
Ive noticed that since The Company left The Republic of Elite Colonies and caused Mars and REC have a cold war with The Company which ultimatly resulted in the death of CoMA all the alliances leaders involved with REC-The Company scandel lost their alliances. Cowman, Tech4sale, Hegemon Rob all are no longer in control of any alliance. Now theirs a dispute between Tech4sale, Hegemon Rob and Bryan(a leader of a alliance that was in CoMA called Simply Orange.) Meanwhile TUON, UNSC(Now The Brotherhood of Nod) and GDI are fine and they had no part in the dispute above. No offense to any of the former leaders mentioned above. I have respect for all of you but I couldnt help but noticing this. The Company and Mars still exsist though just without their former CoMA leaders. Simply Orange no longer exsists and they were also part of the dispute. I think the whole dispute with The Company, Mars and REC caused the downfall of the leaders mentioned above.

ok, i will take a shot at translation for all those layman out there that are not intelligent(read ?????) enough to figure this out.

"I've noticed that since the Company split from the Republic of Elite Colonies; causing a cold war to occur between MARS/REC and The Company, and ultimately the death of CoMA. All the alliance leaders involved with this cold war/scandal (???), no longer lead their alliances. Cowman, Tech4sale, and Hegemon Rob are all no longer leaders of their respective alliances. Bryan, leader of an alliance in CoMA called Simply Orange, who somehow was involved in the MARS/REC vs Company cold war/scandal, also no longer leads his alliance as it has disbanded and no longer exists.

Meanwhile TUON, UNSC (now Brotherhood of NOD), and GDI are fine (though disputes can be made about GDI), as these alliance had no involvement in the dispute mentioned above. No offense to any of the leaders mentioned above as I have respect for all of you but i couldn't help noticing this. The Company (now Yukon Confederacy) and MARS still exist, just with different leadership than while they were in CoMA. I think the whole dispute between the Company and MARS/REC caused the downfall of the leaders mentioned above."

Things in paranthesis are my notes other than that, hope this helps clear up the OP.
Lokiee
wait can some one show me the thread of the whole scandal as I cant find it
Cakes
QUOTE (Lord Boris @ Jan 29 2009, 03:53 PM) *
You live... for now.


I think I might add that he is right in my strength range.

*Hint Hint*

In fact, I'm about a thousand NS above him, while I'm 40 days old and he is over 200. What the hell.
Cakes
QUOTE (Lokiee @ Jan 29 2009, 10:12 PM) *
wait can some one show me the thread of the whole scandal as I cant find it


Here's the Mars one:
http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?s...;hl=Hegemon+Rob

and The Company one:
http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?s...;hl=Hegemon+Rob

Basically, stupidity. Last I heard, Hegemon Rob joined the Vox. Take that however you want.
Tungsten
QUOTE (King Daniel the 1st @ Jan 29 2009, 07:26 AM) *
Whoever is still confused after this post is a idiot.


I'm still very confused, but now I have the urge to launch ground attacks. Interesting.

QUOTE (PremierJames @ Jan 29 2009, 01:36 AM) *
That and unmoral and general slander.


"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means. " -Inigo Montoya

I believe the word you're looking for is Libel [/pet peeve]
Hegemon Rob
QUOTE (PremierJames @ Jan 28 2009, 09:45 PM) *
The Company did nothing to cause the downfall of the leaders.
It doesn't matter that we exposed Mars stealing of guides to IRON. Stealing guides is wrong.
It doesn't matter that REC's leader was involved in spying and Cowman809 was involved before it.
They caused their own downfall.
And sin has a way of exposing itself.
Please, stop this slander.


Lulz

james I know full well that cowman is still in charge of the company. I also know that you were fully aware that cowman, was in possesion of the guides. You knew there was some hostility so you told that mars had the guides as well.

I find it extremly funny that you are claming to be innocent of all of this, especially since you were in TPO.

Lulz
lulz

Anyways...
cowman809
QUOTE (Hegemon Rob @ Jan 29 2009, 03:34 PM) *
Lulz

james I know full well that cowman is still in charge of the company. I also know that you were fully aware that cowman, was in possesion of the guides. You knew there was some hostility so you told that mars had the guides as well.

I find it extremly funny that you are claming to be innocent of all of this, especially since you were in TPO.

Lulz
lulz

Anyways...


lulz lulz lulz? I don't understand the over use of it.

And no, I have no hand in YUC.

PJ was never in TPO either, I left before I even knew PJ...
Kevin McDonald
QUOTE (cowman809 @ Jan 29 2009, 07:15 PM) *
lulz lulz lulz? I don't understand the over use of it.

And no, I have no hand in YUC.

PJ was never in TPO either, I left before I even knew PJ...


Cowman, your continued presence in these threads does no good. In fact, even the act of denying you still have a hand in Company/YUC affairs could be detrimental to them. If you really want to succeed, I suggest you cease posting in these threads (something that would be made easier if King Daniel would just stop posting them.)
PremierJames
QUOTE (Tungsten @ Jan 29 2009, 06:17 PM) *
I'm still very confused, but now I have the urge to launch ground attacks. Interesting.



"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means. " -Inigo Montoya

I believe the word you're looking for is Libel [/pet peeve]


Ahh yes that's the word.
PremierJames
QUOTE (Hegemon Rob @ Jan 29 2009, 06:34 PM) *
Lulz

james I know full well that cowman is still in charge of the company. I also know that you were fully aware that cowman, was in possesion of the guides. You knew there was some hostility so you told that mars had the guides as well.

I find it extremly funny that you are claming to be innocent of all of this, especially since you were in TPO.

Lulz
lulz

Anyways...

Uhh, cowman is?
Last time I checked, I was appointed leader, he left AA, I did the IRON treaties, I resisted merging with MARS/Fried Chicken. I now lead YUC and am the Lord Protector and I have no loyalty or will not be subjected to the rule of a leader who commits such immoral atrocious and hostile acts.

Uhhh, I was?
Hmmm, I never joined the forums. Never joined TPO. Never even met you. And, I found out when he told me they were IRON guides and got them from you. I reported immediately to IRON and told them about it.


Thus, your allegations are false and show a general hatred to me.
I am innocent and have proclaimed my innocence on IRC and forums many times.
I hate spying mate.
Please stop these ad homienms that are false.
King Daniel the 1st
QUOTE (cowman809 @ Jan 29 2009, 04:10 PM) *
I'll clear things up smile.gif

This destruction of CoMA was not because of disputes between member alliances. Its fall was a result of the internal fracturing of The Patrician Order, the secret alliance which practically controlled CoMA and advocated its foundation (me). King D misinterpreted a lot of what happened, naturally, since he was unaware of TPO and its various antics.


And why didnt you tell me of this? So your telling me the bloc that TUON was in was controlled by some secret alliance? Wow dude thats crazy. Also this topic was made by my cousin Justin not me. Really. I know that I sometimes sound like a idiot on the OWF but this time I swear it wasnt me. He was interested in playing CN so I told him about CoMA and my theory of why it broke up. I showed him around the CN forums and my alliance forums and let him surf around the CN forums. This is the 1st time ive seen this post and it really is retarded sounding. The title doesnt even make much since when you read the post. dry.gif Well now im going to have to monitor him when hes on so he doesnt post something like this again. I would like to apologize to The Company, Mars, Tech4Sale, Cowman, HegemonRob, and PremierJames if you were offended by his post at all. Well again my OWF PR is ruined. I promise to the CN community that MY next post(not my cousins) will not be confusing, annoying, or anything else of the sort.
PremierJames
QUOTE (King Daniel the 1st @ Jan 29 2009, 08:40 PM) *
And why didnt you tell me of this? So your telling me the bloc that TUON was in was controlled by some secret alliance? Wow dude thats crazy. Also this topic was made by my cousin Justin not me. Really. I know that I sometimes sound like a idiot on the OWF but this time I swear it wasnt me. He was interested in playing CN so I told him about CoMA and my theory of why it broke up. I showed him around the CN forums and my alliance forums and let him surf around the CN forums. This is the 1st time ive seen this post and it really is retarded sounding. The title doesnt even make much since when you read the post. dry.gif Well now im going to have to monitor him when hes on so he doesnt post something like this again. I would like to apologize to The Company, Mars, Tech4Sale, Cowman, HegemonRob, and PremierJames if you were offended by his post at all. Well again my OWF PR is ruined. I promise to the CN community that MY next post(not my cousins) will not be confusing, annoying, or anything else of the sort.


Hmm, i am not offended.
I have done nothing wrong.
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