We have had great wars, we have had idological wars wars of agression and extermenation.....

what I have not seen is a war of colors... Im sure this would mark the end of Bob.
I was talking a look at the Team Stats and I thought what would happen if Blue took on Orange? or any other color..

what are your thoughts? what would this mean to the survival of CN?

Pssh; but we all know Orange is da bomb. Seriously though, the Lodge would be in trouble since you're our closest allies and sit on Blue.

Wasn't there a green war?

I think he means, war between spheres. Eg: Green vs white.

Hmmm... This post piqued my interest.

There are 4 HUGE spheres here on Bob:

Blue
Orange
Aqua
Black

All of them are within 60 points of each other, and a war between any two of them would be absolutely incredible. But you must look at the facts: All of them have good relations to each other, ties to the Continuum, and to NPO, a hot bed of networks. I don't see anything as likely. But it is certainly nice to dream.

Wont happen as like legit Color vs Color. It could be Alliance color vs color but the speres would never organize against each other.

Assuming color bloc treaties ever start becoming MDoAPs, that would likely be one of very few avenues for such a scenario.

That would probably take 2 years... but most colors are working together for the future. I don't know. It might happen, it might not. depends on how united the colors are.

There's not much practical benefit for Sphere v. Sphere wars. Intra-sphere wars, yes. But the only reason color is an issue is because of alliances desiring senatorial power. In that respect, there's no point for Blue to take on Orange, because for any tangible benefit, the victors would have to move to the opposite color. Certain alliances might attempt to expand into another color sphere, but that would not be a color v. color situation.

DELETED

Step 1: color sphere treaties
Step 2: Eliminating all outside color MDPs+ so everything stays in your own sphere (which will never happen)

FFC actually did this, back in the day <.<

You could get wars with trades as spoils of war.

Surrender terms could include: change to our color and trade your resources with me for at least 6 months.

So you have tech-farms and trade-farms.

note: I'm quite happy without those kind of wars

Green vs Orange would be interesting...

GGA + GDA vs IRON + ODN

except that Orange would crush Green. Now Orange vs. Aqua......

umm... to my knowledge GDA is a blue alliance. not a green alliance.....

also, no offense to GGA and GDA, but IRON would pretty much crush both as together GGA/GDA make up like half of IRON's NS.

An interesting proposition, but very unlikely to ever happen

Well lets say blue took on purple...

Of course Blue would win the spoil could be that all purple must move to blue etc. I mean this could go differently for different colors but the end goal would be the last 2 strongest duking it out for sole ownership of CN

and then you start alll over repopulating all colors.

Almost no colours are unified enough for even a majority of alliances on a colour to band together in a 'colour war'. Red, obviously (even though there are many red nations that are not in a red alliance), but that's really the only one. I don't think any colour even has an MDP bloc at its core, now BLEU is dead.

Orange could take on any other color.

3.5k nukes more than any color, 4k more avg NS than any other.

1k less members & only 3M less NS than Blue.

Orange fanboi for life.

Aqua is the only other color I think could even cause damage to us.

Currently there are three militarily unified spheres:

The Chestnut Accords makes up ~85% of maroon.
P.E.A.C.E makes up ~75% of purple
New Pacific Order makes up ~75% of red.

Orange would crush any team 1 on 1. I mean they have 11k nukes, 64M ns, and 3300+ members. Only Blue, Aqua, and Black would inflict damage on them, seeing they have more than 50k NS, 3000+ NS, and 5k+ nukes.

And I think I'm correct in saying that all three of those colours have strong alliances in other colours.

Of course. All three colours have several treaties with the other two.

I'd be all for it, words couldn't explain how fun that would be.

Meh, no fun basing it on likelihood. A few assumptions have to be made, like a unified sphere & a war erupting spontaneously against another color.

Well in that case ... Fortress Aqua will repel you all

Wann get some Orange Juice Bob?

black would win of course

lol if I remember right we had a colour war in TE, in the end people got fed up of IDIOT kicking and bullying other spheres that we were launched upon. CN would be no different if say blue, or red, or any other large colour launched on another colour

And a fun time was had by all.

I highly doubt a color war but I could see a bunch of alliances trying to take out NPO and her allys so one alliance wouldnt dominate the red team but I highly doubt anybody even has the balls to try to do that.

There's no reason to do it, nobody's material interests are harmed by a closed red team. It's not like it is a team that anyone wants to move into, and nobody is being evicted. I don't like the Moldavi doctrine but it is nowhere near important enough to me to try and arrange any solution. There are much more important things for everyone to worry about, except those like Vox who are trying to score PR points.

NPO makes up around 40% of red, not 75%, just by numbers. I dunno about militarily because NPO has most of the large nations on red, but I'd venture to say that they could hold all of red's military, if they really really wanted to.

i think if two small, reletivly harmless (no offense) colors like yellow and pink could go to war... seeing as how there is like 3 ok alliances from each, but other than that i doubt this would ever happen.

What Im wondering is how that would ever happen.
Like how would any color ever find the legitimacy to declare
war on a whole other sphere?
Also it seems to me that treaties get in the way
of there ever being a color war.
If that ever did happen it'd be a bit funny.
Like say blue went to war with gray and all of a sudden
gray loses the war and is forced to join blue then gray
would not have any nations within it which would mean that a whole
color in the game is destroyed. The downside is that there is then no
individualism in the game, but the upside is that now
we can all trade with one another. More traders
equals better chance of getting the trade you want.

you realize gray is represented as 'Colorless' right?
but anyways, i see your point.

Yeh I know, I wanted to pick a color that wouldn't offend anyone

As a Grey Trader, I resent that.



(I'm kidding. )

I was going by strength, not nation count; the latter isn't really a good judge. EX: Maroon has only 100 nations more than Grey team, but has twenty million more strength.

Ah, I figured that, but I didn't think to check those numbers.

Right-o.

I don't think we'll ever see "Color Wars" as in sphere .vs. sphere, but I think definitely we could see certain spheres all fighting on one side. Essentially, the War of the Coalition/GWV can be boiled down as a war versus Blue.

Take the ever popular "OMG tC VERSUS AQUA" or "OMG tC VERSUS BLACK" scenarios as good examples.

no matter what happens in this war, pink will emerge in a blood stained sweater
we couldn't get any lower, eh?

True dat
Just playing

Taking the 'losing' sphere as prisoners for trades on your own colour might not really work too well.

Let's say that for whatever reason the New Pacific Order and the Grand Global Alliance go at it. That's not even an entire colour sphere, but ... well, we know roughly how that would end. Let's throw in the entire United Jungle Accords and assume they lost.

That means all of Grand Global, as well as Ordo Verde and the Viridian Entente are now Red. GGA has had a bit of a rough time, but adding all three of them up means a sudden influx of over 700 new Red nations. Pacifica's only a little over 900.

Mmmm, Senate wars.

Civil wars on a colour tend to happen more often, I think, as well as organisations on each colour (United Jungle Accords, Orange Unity Treaty, New Pacific Order) that keep things settled due to the Senate structure.

Because MCXA isn't majority Blue, right? ... (Not to mention Echelon, LoSS and NADC.)

One thing that has to be taken into consideration is the fact that some nations have a different color than their alliance.

nah I don't think that would happen color means nothing .. except if you attack red.. now if other spheres also placed protection for all in their sphere then and only then would there be a color war...

The International is nice but, the People's Flag is Palest Pink.

It is a possibility but for it to happen CN politics would have to go away from the road its on and down a different one. It is possible if say 1 color is united in a MDP web and another color is united with a MADP and once alliance from the MADP color attack an alliance in the MDP color but as of now few color are that united not to mention the inter color treaties. Also i doubt it would be between equally sized colors as frankly nobody wants to engage purposely into a war were they don't have the clear advantage.


Also i always thought it was interesting how colors are so clearly divided into 4 strong, 5 medium, and 4 weak (counting none) and their is no were is the line in between it is plainly obvious were they are.