(There is a tl;dr at the bottom)

I'd just like to give everyone a brief explanation of SOLID's nuclear weapons policy.
In SOLID, we view nuclear weapons as a dishonorable tool of war for a few reasons. Firstly, and most significantly, the global radiation counter. SOLID is always in favor of the welfare of Planet Bob in general, and a high global radiation is detrimental to everyone. Also, it's a cowardly way to ruin the fun of a war. As I said in my war address, this game is meant for fun, and we can all argue that the most fun part of the game is warring. A click of the wrong button can ruin the fun for a few nations, and pretty soon, there's a lot of people on both sides being taken out of the fun. As stupid as that sounds, it's the truth.

So, naturally, disapproving of the use of nuclear weapons, SOLID does not and will not launch preemptive nuclear weapons. To do so is a breach of our laws, and any members who do so will be expelled from SOLID, and considered our enemy. However, some situations call for SOLID members to use nuclear weaponry defensively.

Obviously, among these situations is a direct nuclear attack on a nation, in which case, the nation is permitted to return fire with nukes on the nation that fired it. Additionally, a spy attack against a SOLID nation's nuclear arsenal is considered a nuclear attack. Naturally, the nature of spy attacks sometimes does not allow the victim to see who has attacked them, in which case it is assumed that all nations currently at war with the victim are considered attackers. SOLID members have their nuclear arsenals as a measure of self-defense against rogue nations, and will never use them offensively, thus we consider it a great offense to attack them.

Thanks for reading, and best of luck to all, best of luck in the war to whoever supports SOLID.
MaGneT of Magodonia, President of SOLID

tl;dr:
-SOLID will never launch a first strike nuke.
-Any SOLID nation who launches a first strike nuke is considered an enemy of SOLID.
-If a nation nukes a SOLID nation, that nation will be nuked back.
-Any known spy attempts on a SOLID nation's nuclear arsenal is considered a nuclear attack.
-If a SOLID members gets nukes destroyed by spies, investigations and preventative measures will be invoked in order for justice to be served.

o/ SOLID

o/ SOLID

Spying nukes is bad...dont do it or you will eat one.

EDIT: FIRST FIRST omglolwtfbbqkthnxbai

Thats open to abuse a little

You know you can get spied without having proof of who done it

But other than that good announcement

o/ SOLID!!

Too bad I don't have any to spy away

Then every nation attacking the SOLID member is to be attacked.

Im so going to spy on SOLID now.

I can assure you if SOLID launches nukes as first strike you will be but a smear mark in CN history

Yes, no doubt. Well, it won't carry too much weight with you, but I'll personally attack any "ally" of mine who spy attacks a SOLID nuke in hopes of getting us to launch. Then again, I doubt any of my allies would.

Also, I didn't post this in the OP, but I'd like to just give my personal compliments to the honor of Valhalla. I'm currently fighting two nations who each have 20 nukes, I have none. They haven't launched one.
Can't say I like what yavanna's Navy is doing to me, but truly, hats off to those two.

EDIT: Wow, BnT. . . you really are good at that whole trolling and making a general asshat of yourself thing aren't you?
Do you give lessons?

So, say that, and I am not pointing finger or anything, Weiss von Totten spies one of your nukes, you are gonna go weapons hot on say 3 valhalla nations you are fighting???

Aye, cause that was an attack on my arsenal. You have damaged me and you will pay the price.

But it wouldn't have been me or anyone fighting you

but some one sat on the sidelines laffing hoping we all nuke eachother to hell and back

Well, in a state of war it is safe to assume that the people you are at war are the people that would be spying on me.

No it isnt...not without evidence. Anyone could honestly spy on anyone and not get caught.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q54LJ5RsqRw

Not really, there are other alliances whom would want you to start nuking, as you'd get it back.... and so one

with this announcement you are inviting other people to be able to send this into a full green war

Gecko wasn't exactly 100% clear with his response.

We will investigate any spy attacks to the best of our ability.
If we do know who sent it, the nuclear retaliation be aimed at them.

Also, as I said earlier, if someone who is not involved in the war, or someone on SOLID's side is spying on nukes to provoke a nuclear war, and their plan does indeed work, (assuming we find out) SOLID would, of course, feel responsible to pay for any wrongful damage done by our nukes. . . along with giving that certain person a taste of those same nukes.

We may be at war, but we are certainly not without our usual honor and courtesy.

A threat to my allies there BnT?

Excellent spy attack policy.

I find this thread amusing for its naivety of an alliances leadership. SOLID leadership allowing nuclear first strikes? You have neither the politcial or military power to prevent repurcussions, few alliances do; your government will end up on a few ZI lists; go ask FAN and GOONs how it worked for them.

If Valhallans get nuked youll certainly end up on ours. ALL of your government

SOLID, you state we will not fire nukes first ? then with your back turned you then say if you spy one of nukes we will use nukes first ?

wow your really smart

Another 5 star topic from SOLID. I couldn't agree with your policies anymore.

So if I spy nukes away on SOLID and you don't catch me, Valhalla gets nuked.

Brilliant!

So you find nukes dishonorable, but will go nuclear if someone takes your dishonorable nukes away?

Logical. I have no problem with your spy policy, but calling nukes "dishonorable" is just silly.

They can now fix this flaw in their policy. Thanks for bringing it up. If you want to suggest how they could resolve the problem please say so.

Brilliant military strategy coming from SOLID here.

I have a strong feeling any war fought under this premise is going to be nuclear.

This a lame policy. I expect the other side to announce something like, "Any Spy attack on us and the use of nuclear weapons will be authorized (Wishful thinking I might add)." Congrats SOLID, you have taken the spy/nuke policy to a whole new level.

Umbrae spies a nuke
SOLID authorises a nuclear strike on Valhallan nations
All of SOLID gov end up as ZI targets
Evil Pacifica wins again

Now THAT is a conspiracy I can get behind.

Yes, get rid of it because people even outside of the war will exploit it. Guaranteed.

You know what BNT, you are right. I change my "Brilliant!" statement from sarcastic to serious.

Let it be so.

/me facepalms
I really failed hard at being clear in the OP. Please excuse me, I'm quite tired from work. . .

SOLID will not have our members shooting nukes at anything they see if their nukes get destroyed. However, upon the destruction of a nuke the possibility of retaliation is markedly increased, and measures will be taken to investigate.
Bleh. I wrote fire in there, didn't I.

You tempt me to spy away your nukes.

I'll get back to you on that when my spy slots open after update.

It's a fair policy IMO. (The nuke one).

Besides what good are nukes if you buy them, lets them increase your bills for months and then just watch and do nothing as they all get spied away?

this this and 20x this more.

Valhalla are used to getting nuked, i am sure you are not

this is just to much of a risk for you and your alliance

I think we all read you loud and clear, MaGneT.

I'm sure you mean well, and I appreciate the courtesy shown by you & yours in this thread. As has been pointed out though, this is easily exploited by folks who would like to see it go full-scale nuclear.

Or just restrict it to only discovered spy attacks? Agreed though, shouldn't include all spy attacks I suppose.

This works as well and is not exploitable, so if that is what they wish to do as a sovereign alliance, so be it. Do something exploitable though, it will back fire.

Yes, I agree as well. I'd prefer for no innocents to get nuked, it's too potentially hazardous. SOLID has changed her policy. . . see edited OP.

Unknown spy attacks will not be pinned on Valhalla or any nations a SOLID member is fighting. It's simply unfair to them.

^^^^


With that policy this war is going to go nuclear REAL fast especially now that you have announced it to the world. If you don't think there are people out there who would just love to exploit this to get one or both alliances destroyed your delusional.


EDIT: Good change there SOILD. Thanks for listening to reason.

We will find you.

Can I join the hunt?

Also, I just realized your sig has exponentially increased its appeal level over the past 24 hours.

Read and understood...though that spy policy is more likely to get you glowing than keeping your nukes safe.

Do something about it. I dare you

/me Goes to grab his radiation suit....

Instigating a war to become nuclear just to show your e-muscles, how classy of you

http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_d...ation_ID=132884

I notice this guy just lost two nukes.

Not that we had anything to do with it.

Any sanctioned nuclear attack on a TORN nation will result in my alliance going weapons free on all targets.

Looks like Bill n Ted wants to start a nuclear war. It will be interesting to see if SOLID follow through with their policy or whether you can wave your willy around unharmed.

The Borgian Republic cannot understand how this could have possibly happened. It's as if they vanished into thin air, no?

I don't think theres much appreciation for attempts to take away our ability to disarm nuclear opponents. Molon Labe.