Unspeakable Evil
Sep 3 2007, 03:36 PM
This is a thread for statistics. I plan to update the first post daily with new charts and stats for those of us who like that sort of thing. I'll also take requests -- if I have the data, I'll see if I can't plot it.
Related Topics:
2009-01-02:
Unspeakable 2008, Stats Depot: Special Edition2007-08-19:
CN Sanctioned Stats Depot, The Twisted World of Unspeakable Evil2007-05-28:
CN Sanctioned Stats Depot, World Demographics Provided In Real Time2007-04-22:
CN Sanctioned Stats Depot, Special Edition: Your Alliance Affiliation and You!2007-03-10:
CN Sanctioned Stats Depot, Special Edition: 10 Week Spectacular2007-03-03:
CN Sanctioned Stats Depot, Special Edition: Nukes of the Second Great WarUpdated: 2009-11-20Rank by Nation Strength:
Rank by Score:
Color CodesDay-to-Day:

Alliance NS:Tier 1 (1-15)Tier 2 (16-30)Tier 3 (31-45)Tier 4 (46-60)Tier 5 (61-75)Alliance Average NS:Tier 1 (1-15)Tier 2 (16-30)Tier 3 (31-45)Tier 4 (46-60)Tier 5 (61-75)Percent change in Alliance NS*:Tier 1 (1-15)Tier 2 (16-30)Tier 3 (31-45)Tier 4 (46-60)Tier 5 (61-75)* Alliances with 10 full weeks of data come first, sorted by descending growth. After that alliances with oldest data are listed.
Alliance Membership Count:Tier 1 (1-15)Tier 2 (16-30)Tier 3 (31-45)Tier 4 (46-60)Tier 5 (61-75)Score:Tier 1 (1-15)Tier 2 (16-30)Tier 3 (31-45)Tier 4 (46-60)Tier 5 (61-75)Alliance Nukes:Tier 1 (1-15)Tier 2 (16-30)Tier 3 (31-45)Tier 4 (46-60)Tier 5 (61-75)Alliance Nukes per Nation:Tier 1 (1-15)Tier 2 (16-30)Tier 3 (31-45)Tier 4 (46-60)Tier 5 (61-75)Alliance NS per Nuke:Tier 1 (1-15)Tier 2 (16-30)Tier 3 (31-45)Tier 4 (46-60)Tier 5 (61-75)Alliance Infrastructure:Tier 1 (1-15)Tier 2 (16-30)Tier 3 (31-45)Tier 4 (46-60)Tier 5 (61-75)Average Alliance Infrastructure:Tier 1 (1-15)Tier 2 (16-30)Tier 3 (31-45)Tier 4 (46-60)Tier 5 (61-75)Alliance Technology:Tier 1 (1-15)Tier 2 (16-30)Tier 3 (31-45)Tier 4 (46-60)Tier 5 (61-75)Average Alliance Technology:Tier 1 (1-15)Tier 2 (16-30)Tier 3 (31-45)Tier 4 (46-60)Tier 5 (61-75)Alliance Technology per Infrastructure:Tier 1 (1-15)Tier 2 (16-30)Tier 3 (31-45)Tier 4 (46-60)Tier 5 (61-75)Alliance Infrastructure per Technology:Tier 1 (1-15)Tier 2 (16-30)Tier 3 (31-45)Tier 4 (46-60)Tier 5 (61-75)Alliance Land:Tier 1 (1-15)Tier 2 (16-30)Tier 3 (31-45)Tier 4 (46-60)Tier 5 (61-75)Average Alliance Land:Tier 1 (1-15)Tier 2 (16-30)Tier 3 (31-45)Tier 4 (46-60)Tier 5 (61-75)Percent of Alliance in Anarchy:Tier 1 (1-15)Tier 2 (16-30)Tier 3 (31-45)Tier 4 (46-60)Tier 5 (61-75)Alliance Soldiers:Tier 1 (1-15)Tier 2 (16-30)Tier 3 (31-45)Tier 4 (46-60)Tier 5 (61-75)Alliance Air Force:Tier 1 (1-15)Tier 2 (16-30)Tier 3 (31-45)Tier 4 (46-60)Tier 5 (61-75)Alliance Navy:Tier 1 (1-15)Tier 2 (16-30)Tier 3 (31-45)Tier 4 (46-60)Tier 5 (61-75)Alliance Tanks:Tier 1 (1-15)Tier 2 (16-30)Tier 3 (31-45)Tier 4 (46-60)Tier 5 (61-75)Alliance Cruise Missiles:Tier 1 (1-15)Tier 2 (16-30)Tier 3 (31-45)Tier 4 (46-60)Tier 5 (61-75)Percent of Alliance in War Mode:Tier 1 (1-15)Tier 2 (16-30)Tier 3 (31-45)Tier 4 (46-60)Tier 5 (61-75)The Azaghul CollectionAlliance Wonders:Tier 1 (1-15)Tier 2 (16-30)Tier 3 (31-45)Tier 4 (46-60)Tier 5 (61-75)Average Alliance Wonders:Tier 1 (1-15)Tier 2 (16-30)Tier 3 (31-45)Tier 4 (46-60)Tier 5 (61-75)Alliance Improvements:Tier 1 (1-15)Tier 2 (16-30)Tier 3 (31-45)Tier 4 (46-60)Tier 5 (61-75)Average Alliance Improvements:Tier 1 (1-15)Tier 2 (16-30)Tier 3 (31-45)Tier 4 (46-60)Tier 5 (61-75)Average Alliance WRCs:Tier 1 (1-15)Tier 2 (16-30)Tier 3 (31-45)Tier 4 (46-60)Tier 5 (61-75)Average Alliance SDIs:Tier 1 (1-15)Tier 2 (16-30)Tier 3 (31-45)Tier 4 (46-60)Tier 5 (61-75)Average Alliance Manhattan Projects:Tier 1 (1-15)Tier 2 (16-30)Tier 3 (31-45)Tier 4 (46-60)Tier 5 (61-75)Alliance Space Wonders*:Tier 1 (1-15)Tier 2 (16-30)Tier 3 (31-45)Tier 4 (46-60)Tier 5 (61-75)* Number of Moon/Mars Bases, Colonies and Mines.
Average Alliance Space Wonders*:Tier 1 (1-15)Tier 2 (16-30)Tier 3 (31-45)Tier 4 (46-60)Tier 5 (61-75)* Number of Moon/Mars Bases
only. Counting one nation with three wonders as three spacey-nations seems unfair.
The mpol CollectionAlliance Nation Strength per Infrastructure:Tier 1 (1-15)Tier 2 (16-30)Tier 3 (31-45)Tier 4 (46-60)Tier 5 (61-75)Alliance Nation Strength per Technology:Tier 1 (1-15)Tier 2 (16-30)Tier 3 (31-45)Tier 4 (46-60)Tier 5 (61-75)Alliance Nation Strength per SDI:Tier 1 (1-15)Tier 2 (16-30)Tier 3 (31-45)Tier 4 (46-60)Tier 5 (61-75)Alliance Nation Strength per WRC:Tier 1 (1-15)Tier 2 (16-30)Tier 3 (31-45)Tier 4 (46-60)Tier 5 (61-75)Alliance Nation Strength per HNMS:Tier 1 (1-15)Tier 2 (16-30)Tier 3 (31-45)Tier 4 (46-60)Tier 5 (61-75)Team Nation StrengthAverage Team Nation StrengthTeam Membership CountTeam NukesTeam Nukes per NationTeam Nation Strength per NukeTeam ScoreUpdated: 03/18/2007
Alliance Nation Strength (big) Average Alliance Nation Strength (big) Alliance Member Count (big)Updated: 03/03/2007 Sanctioned Alliances of the Second Great WarNukes of the Second Great WarThe vertical orange line is the day that LUE began attacking select GOONS targets; January 5, 2007.
The vertical red line is the day the full-on League-Initiative slugfest began; January 9, 2007.
The vertical blue line is the day the official peace occurred, on January 17, 2007.
Enjoy.
ShadowDragon
Sep 3 2007, 03:38 PM
hmm... thank you. Good job with all the stats!
TimLee
Sep 3 2007, 03:40 PM
Did you get the two i suggested on the other site?
Paranoid Android
Sep 3 2007, 03:42 PM
as before, pinning this.
Unspeakable Evil
Sep 3 2007, 03:43 PM
^^ You da Paranoid Android

QUOTE (TimLee @ Sep 3 2007, 05:40 PM)

Did you get the two i suggested on the other site?
Did you suggest UPN (Which I already track, #47 if I'm not mistaken) and someone called the Federation of Neutral Force (which isn't at 1M NS yet)? Yes, in fact. I "got" them.
TimLee
Sep 3 2007, 03:44 PM
QUOTE (Paranoid Android @ Sep 3 2007, 04:42 PM)

as before, pinning this.
Just checking. What inspired you to do this?
I see TPF is moving on up in those rankings
Chickenzilla
Sep 3 2007, 03:46 PM
did you take out Atlantis?
mutant hijacker
Sep 3 2007, 03:47 PM
Awesome work, UE. Now the forums feel like home
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Unspeakable Evil
Sep 3 2007, 03:48 PM
QUOTE (Chickenzilla @ Sep 3 2007, 05:46 PM)

did you take out Atlantis?
....no. It's right where it should be. #25 by NS as of today, and on Tier 2 midways.
Edit: are you confused by the thumbnails? Because the graph ones are placeholders now, there aren't any ways I know of to make a thumbnail for them unless the forums let you inline a Shockwave Flash file, which they rightfully won't do.
Chickenzilla
Sep 3 2007, 03:50 PM
oh ok, I just didn't see atlantis so was confused.
Thank you
Delta1212
Sep 3 2007, 03:57 PM
I like it better this way. The new forums are good.
TheNeverender
Sep 3 2007, 03:58 PM
Looks so much better with the thumbnails...
Paranoid Android
Sep 3 2007, 03:59 PM
QUOTE (TimLee @ Sep 3 2007, 09:44 PM)

Just checking. What inspired you to do this?
the fact that it is a useful thread and was pinned in the old forums.
BelAir
Sep 3 2007, 04:11 PM
I don't think I could possibly live with out these
PlasmoDesmata
Sep 3 2007, 05:19 PM
hehe, moving lines...i click on these to watch the lines move.
crazyisraelie
Sep 3 2007, 06:56 PM
Awesome charts and graphs, keep up the good work!
Emperor Whimsical
Sep 3 2007, 07:06 PM
QUOTE (crazyisraelie @ Sep 3 2007, 09:56 PM)

Awesome charts and graphs, keep up the good work!
I agree. Keep up the good work.
BJ Walsh
Sep 3 2007, 07:48 PM
contributing to the views/admiring the charts/data.
King Irwin
Sep 3 2007, 09:14 PM
This is awesome! I didn't even realize this was available in the old forum...
DictatorPhilTaylor
Sep 3 2007, 09:16 PM
you should add TRUST alliance, as we started August 18th, 2007

. and have gained 186k NS since then
WPPWAH
Sep 3 2007, 10:05 PM
sup UE, also I can't believe you're still doing this after all this time
Emperor Alakrie
Sep 3 2007, 10:44 PM
5.2 whole percent?! This is freaking sweet!
BelAir
Sep 4 2007, 01:02 PM
QUOTE (DictatorPhilTaylor @ Sep 3 2007, 10:16 PM)

you should add TRUST alliance, as we started August 18th, 2007

. and have gained 186k NS since then

I think UE has enough alliances to track right now.
Anu Drake
Sep 4 2007, 01:58 PM
Now this forum feels more cozy. If we can just get the Sanction Race up and going here I will feel complete.
335% growth is good, thanks for including NATO on some of the charts, UE.
Unspeakable Evil
Sep 4 2007, 03:13 PM
QUOTE (Anu Drake @ Sep 4 2007, 03:58 PM)

Now this forum feels more cozy. If we can just get the Sanction Race up and going here I will feel complete.
You know, the Sanction Race is essentially covered in the Rankings by Score chart (second from the top every day). Just look at who is highlighted in Green, those are the 12 alliances who would be sanctioned were it to happen today.
QUOTE
335% growth is good, thanks for including NATO on some of the charts, UE.
Don't thank me, thank MySQL and my horribly inefficient queries and hackish Perl scripts that generate the data that says that. :J (

( is dead, too )
Edit: Oh, and updated 2007-09-04.
Edit^2: Who grew 335%?
Edit ^3: While I was listening to the tale of an ill-advised tech raid gone bad (for the raid
er), I discovered The Phoenix Collective. Apparently unaffiliated with our Unjust friends over at The Phoenix Federation. They're over 1M NS.
geneclar
Sep 4 2007, 06:35 PM
QUOTE (Unspeakable Evil @ Sep 4 2007, 04:13 PM)

You know, the Sanction Race is essentially covered in the Rankings by Score chart (second from the top every day). Just look at who is highlighted in Green, those are the 12 alliances who would be sanctioned were it to happen today.
The graphs are more difficult to read when you're trying to tell where the alliances are in respect to each other. You can get an idea, but it's nice to have numbers.

Of course, I'd have no objection if you provided some.
Anu Drake
Sep 4 2007, 06:42 PM
335%? That's not right. Meant to say by 335k on the NATO jump for the previous update. Less on the one up now. And the sanction race is just that and has a little commentary. Both are absolutely essential and great.
Unspeakable Evil
Sep 4 2007, 07:03 PM
QUOTE (geneclar @ Sep 4 2007, 08:35 PM)

The graphs are more difficult to read when you're trying to tell where the alliances are in respect to each other. You can get an idea, but it's nice to have numbers.

Of course, I'd have no objection if you provided some.

The yearning for commentary I get (no time for that most days anymore), but I'm not sure I grok this critique. If you read only columns one and two of the Score Rankings looking at who is green, you see who would get sanctioned as of today in order from biggest and baddest on down. I'm not opposed to more stats threads, but duplication of effort offends the engineer in me. What I'm getting at is, how might I improve that chart if you find it lacking?
Edit: Now that I think about it, the chart is nothing BUT numbers.
geneclar
Sep 4 2007, 10:31 PM
QUOTE (Unspeakable Evil @ Sep 4 2007, 08:03 PM)

The yearning for commentary I get (no time for that most days anymore), but I'm not sure I grok this critique. If you read only columns one and two of the Score Rankings looking at who is green, you see who would get sanctioned as of today in order from biggest and baddest on down. I'm not opposed to more stats threads, but duplication of effort offends the engineer in me. What I'm getting at is, how might I improve that chart if you find it lacking?
Edit: Now that I think about it, the chart is nothing BUT numbers.
What I meant was that I personally like to see numbers, rather than lines. It gives me a better idea of where things stand, especially when the graphs have to be split because of how many lines there are.
Your work is really useful and impressive, don't get me wrong.

EDIT: Oh, I see what you're saying. I skipped the charts, I'm not sure why. I apologize, I can't believe I didn't see them at all.
Aleksanderr
Sep 4 2007, 10:32 PM
Ahhhh Yeaaaaaa..... I was waiting for this to get posted on these forums. The itch has finally stopped, now that I have my UE fix of the day.
amiles
Sep 5 2007, 04:46 AM
I guess some people have way too much time up their hands. I thought I was sad when I used to make one graph for my alliance. But yikes! Oh wall thanks for doing it.
KCToker
Sep 5 2007, 04:52 AM
He said on the IF forums (just before they got shut-off) that doing this only takes him like 30-minutes or so a day.
KFedistan
Sep 5 2007, 01:03 PM
Wonderfully useful, thank you! It's data-tacular.
Unspeakable Evil
Sep 5 2007, 02:41 PM
Updated 2007-09-05.
QUOTE (amiles @ Sep 5 2007, 06:46 AM)

I guess some people have way too much time up their hands. I thought I was sad when I used to make one graph for my alliance. But yikes! Oh wall thanks for doing it.
Everyone who thinks I should continue to waste my time, please declare war on amiles here. Thanks.
QUOTE (KCToker @ Sep 5 2007, 06:52 AM)

He said on the IF forums (just before they got shut-off) that doing this only takes him like 30-minutes or so a day.
About 20 minutes today, from start to now.
QUOTE (Pollexter @ Sep 5 2007, 03:03 PM)

Wonderfully useful, thank you! It's data-tacular.

Anytime.
garbunkel
Sep 5 2007, 03:05 PM
OOC: Thank you your your time and effort, these are a great way to look at CN differently. I'm glad we have someone with your abilities to be able to provide this!
ALSO,
you have not shown the non-aligned stats? With the potentially largest group, it would interesting to see these also!
Unspeakable Evil
Sep 5 2007, 03:17 PM
QUOTE (garbunkel @ Sep 5 2007, 05:05 PM)

You have not shown the non-aligned stats? With the potentially largest group, it would interesting to see these also!
Unaligned to whom? My goal is to try and hit the biggest X alliances (where X is currently 57). There may well be 100M NS outside of these alliances*, but it isn't really feasible to harvest the data for 1,000 2-10 man alliances to get it.
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* No, there isn't. There are 15,345 nations in the alliances I tracked today weighing in at 173,117,876 NS. According to the World Demographics page there are 31,421 nations on Bob. The nations (in general) outside of the top 57 are very likely much weaker. If you don't believe me, ask \m/ why they complain about there not being enough tech raid targets in their range. If there were 10 member nobody alliances with Gramlins-style average strength, they'd have been harvested months ago.
Pseudodragon
Sep 5 2007, 10:03 PM
Great job! But you need to change the scale on the Alliance Nukes per Nation chart. TOP broke the graph.
DictatorPhilTaylor
Sep 5 2007, 10:06 PM
Who is keeping track of the Power Bloc's?
Unspeakable Evil
Sep 6 2007, 01:48 PM
Updated 2007-09-06.
QUOTE (DictatorPhilTaylor @ Sep 6 2007, 12:06 AM)

Who is keeping track of the Power Bloc's?
Not I. I probably track everyone in WUT/UJP and what used to be GUARD. As far as I know, the other power blocs are kind of not big enough for me to really care about enough to track their constituent alliances.
Midkn1ght
Sep 6 2007, 09:01 PM
Not that it matters overall, I suppose, but GOD's color is listed as red, when we really increased according to the numbers. Threw me in a fit for a second looking for a deserter, lol
Unspeakable Evil
Sep 6 2007, 09:09 PM
QUOTE (Midkn1ght @ Sep 6 2007, 11:01 PM)

Not that it matters overall, I suppose, but GOD's color is listed as red, when we really increased according to the numbers. Threw me in a fit for a second looking for a deserter, lol
I'm going to assume you are talking about GOD being red on the rankings by nation strength. That's because their growth was below average (2.43% from last Thursday) is below the average growth (2.87%). If that isn't what you meant, please clarify. I'm helpful like that.
Cylon
Sep 7 2007, 12:35 PM
Nice UE, Glad to see you moved along with the new forums.
Unspeakable Evil
Sep 7 2007, 01:50 PM
Updated 2007-09-07.
Some big numbers for my Goonicans yesterday. It's almost like they were preparing for some kind of surprise party. I hope it was one with cake. And beer. And ice. And steak. The world may never know. :iiam:
Soviet Canuckistan
Sep 7 2007, 01:56 PM
Oh man, I'm liking that GOONS line today. GATO's also going to pass GOLD, that's amazing.
boscher
Sep 7 2007, 02:43 PM
I really enjoy these stats, thank you
Branimir
Sep 7 2007, 02:46 PM
OOC: I don't believe I post this prior, but thats a very nice effort there working on this all, UE.
And a excellent work it is.
Chickenzilla
Sep 7 2007, 02:48 PM
Atlantis and NATO are going up like madness
skyman
Sep 7 2007, 03:35 PM
looks hmm interesting, nice work
KCToker
Sep 8 2007, 02:26 PM
Well... on the IF forums, you said to let you know when RnR hits 1 mill, well, we did it last night:
http://www.cybernations.net/stats_alliance...sp?Alliance=RnR
Unspeakable Evil
Sep 8 2007, 03:06 PM
Updated 2007-09-08.
QUOTE (KCToker @ Sep 8 2007, 04:26 PM)

Well... on the IF forums, you said to let you know when RnR hits 1 mill, well, we did it last night:
http://www.cybernations.net/stats_alliance...sp?Alliance=RnRI've been tracking since the last RnR guy pointed out you were around 950k or so. Monday or Tuesday you should start showing up on the rankings.
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