There has been some recent issues with small browser-based games, like the dragon-raising game (image without link in my sig), or the micro-city game.

I am curious, what is the issue with these games being "advertised," so long as it is not done in a spammy way?

These kind of "games" are nothing like CN, and I can guarentee there is no chance that they would take away any CN users. They are simplistic, almost mini-games. Some, like the micro-city "game" could even go hand-in-hand quite well with the concepts of Cyberbnations (ie, now you could have cities within your nation).

I feel that the moderation actions of removing links, and even warning for them, do somewhat cross the line. These are not, after all, games which could in any way rival the complexity and depth of Cybernations.

I am creating this thread for an open discussion on the matter, and to petition the moderation staff to be more lenient in what they consider in violation of the "no advertising" rule. After all, discussion of console games, PC games, and even online chess tournaments, are common practice in the community. So long as people do not create spam threads or posts advertising their particular city or whatnot, I see no harm which could come.

Again, I'm posting this here for an open discussion between the staff and the members on the issue (based on the fact that another mod suggested creating a thread for discussion on sig image size in here, lol)


***Also, I would like to reiterate, I am not in violation of the current rules for my sig, because I removed the hyperlink portion of the dragon. It's simply an image, which the rules state I can have, one image within the specified dimensons

They seem to amount to spam to me.

The way I see it, they made a rule: No Advertising.

They did it to prevent other things that would cause more harm than this.

This is still "advertising".

Though it may not be malicious, there can't be exceptions to a hard rule or it opens a Pandora's Box.

Eudiamonia: A hyperlink in a sig is not SPAM, and one not begging "omg clix hears" is even less "spammy."

deth: If there cannot be exceptions, then ALL games should be banned, including discussion of console games as well as off-site chess tournaments. Fact is, there are exceptions. It's not a hard rule. Even if not explicitly stated, the staff implies them to exist because they don't go handing out warns for everyone who mentions the word "Chess."

The purpose of this thread is to recomend that this category of games (Moderation would be to judge wether or not a game falls into the category) be made an exception. From a dragon game whose gameplay consists almost exclusively of putting hyperlinked graphics in sigs on other sites, to the "GRAHHHH zombiez" game which tricks people to click a link, these kind of simple games pose no harm to Cybernations as an entity, no more than a chess tournament would. This is why I feel they should also be given an exception.

I am NOT defending spam topics, I am only defending what goes into a signature, as far as these sorts of games are concerned. I'm not suggesting multiple graphics in a sig, either (Although, multiple small images, as opposed to one large image in a sig, would be a good idea for a later discussion I think.)

The offline chess tournament is debatable under the statute, but a link to another game site or a site advertising a product would be seen as "advertising" under the rule. All I'm saying is that's the way it is right now, I don't intend on creating an entire position one way or the other, I'm just reiterating their reasoning.

The chess tournament is not "offline," it utilizes redhotpawn.com (as explicitly stated in the OP of the topic) to play games. It is very much online. It's not debatable, either there are exceptions or there aren't. You can't claim both.

There clearly are exceptions to the rule. I am suggesting that another be made.

Why with your warn level you would start a repeat topic in a Moderation forum about a very specific topic you've already been told quite clearly is not up for discussion is beyond me.



This has nothing to do with mods being or not being "lenient." It's admin's ruling that he does not allow outside advertising and as such you may not put it in your sig. Since there seems to be confusion you should also know that the mods may and will remove portions of sigs (or entire sigs which saves time) if said any one part of a sig (or any other part of a user profile) is in breach of a rule, and there's no "line" there for them to cross. They're here to enforce admin's rules and therefore it's part of their job to do just that.

Take/leave the direct or indirect advertising out of your signature and you won't be warned again. Thanks.