[Vaal Satori]

Sometimes it does not seem as though people who believe in Jewish Conspiracies have really thought through the implications of their beliefs. I have asked the following questions of dozens of nazis and not one has responded with a logical expanation.

So the first Nazis accused Jews of being the driving force behind Communism and of controlling the Soviet Union. The only problem with that belief is that the Soviet Union continuously backed the Arabs in the Arab-Israeli conflicts, and seemed to be in favor of the dissolution of the state of Israel and the inevitable holocaust that would have followed. So why would the Jews in the USSR use the country's resources to seek the annihilation of their own people?

Also, current neo-nazis accuse Jews of controlling the United States and Capitalism, and using them to advance Jewish agendas. The problem is, if Jews have historically controlled Capitalism, and if they have also historically controlled Communism, then why did the two ideologies seek to annihilate one another? Why were the United States and the Soviet Union mortal enemies if they were both controlled by the same people, and why would Jews bring the two countries to the brink of nuclear war, which would have eradicated the Jews themselves? That simply does not make any sense.

I would invite anyone who has answers to these questions to share them in this thread, because thus far I have heard none.

[RainbowRachi]

Vaal Satori, on Dec 15 2007, 12:22 PM, said:

Sometimes it does not seem as though people who believe in Jewish Conspiracies have really thought through the implications of their beliefs. I have asked the following questions of dozens of nazis and not one has responded with a logical expanation.

So the first Nazis accused Jews of being the driving force behind Communism and of controlling the Soviet Union. The only problem with that belief is that the Soviet Union continuously backed the Arabs in the Arab-Israeli conflicts, and seemed to be in favor of the dissolution of the state of Israel and the inevitable holocaust that would have followed. So why would the Jews in the USSR use the country's resources to seek the annihilation of their own people?

Also, current neo-nazis accuse Jews of controlling the United States and Capitalism, and using them to advance Jewish agendas. The problem is, if Jews have historically controlled Capitalism, and if they have also historically controlled Communism, then why did the two ideologies seek to annihilate one another? Why were the United States and the Soviet Union mortal enemies if they were both controlled by the same people, and why would Jews bring the two countries to the brink of nuclear war, which would have eradicated the Jews themselves? That simply does not make any sense.

I would invite anyone who has answers to these questions to share them in this thread, because thus far I have heard none.

They have no reasoning for it. They just hate for the sake of it

EDIT: To answer your question, Nazi's use the belief that Jews are controlling the US and the former USSR because they feel that if they make up a story about an ideology that they hate(Judaism) and combine it with a government they don't like (Communism) then they can somehow justify their irrational hate.

This post has been edited by Sirus Griffon II: 15 December 2007 - 12:30 PM

[Conan the Barbeque]

Didn't Darth Sidius AKA Senator Palpatine control both sides of the Clone Wars in the Star Wars saga?
That way, he had no chance of losing! At the end, he even became an Emperor!

[RainbowRachi]

Conan the Barbeque, on Dec 15 2007, 12:40 PM, said:

Didn't Darth Sidius AKA Senator Palpatine control both sides of the Clone Wars in the Star Wars saga?
That way, he had no chance of losing! At the end, he even became an Emperor!

But wasn't he killed by his own apprentice

[Lord GVChamp]

Minorities are overrepresnted in many terrorist/guerilla groups. In Russia, Jews were one of those minorities.
It was an almost-rational thought at the time.

[Vaal Satori]

Conan the Barbeque, on Dec 15 2007, 01:40 PM, said:

Didn't Darth Sidius AKA Senator Palpatine control both sides of the Clone Wars in the Star Wars saga?
That way, he had no chance of losing! At the end, he even became an Emperor!

But the two sides could not have annihilated each other with the push of a button. Had events gone even slightly differently during the Cuban Missile Crisis, there would be no West and no Russia, and perhaps not even a habitable planet. I doubt it was part of the Jewish agenda to risk wiping themselves out.

[cjav0]

Don't believe anything he says, its just jew propaganda! It's all part of the jewish masterplan to take over the world and destroy christmas!

Now give me your jewgold boy! no, not that bag of fake jewgold. I want the real deal!

[Flame Darkfire]

Vaal Satori, on Dec 15 2007, 01:22 PM, said:

Also, current neo-nazis accuse Jews of controlling the United States and Capitalism, and using them to advance Jewish agendas. The problem is, if Jews have historically controlled Capitalism, and if they have also historically controlled Communism, then why did the two ideologies seek to annihilate one another? Why were the United States and the Soviet Union mortal enemies if they were both controlled by the same people, and why would Jews bring the two countries to the brink of nuclear war, which would have eradicated the Jews themselves? That simply does not make any sense.

I am by no means a Neo Nazi (some of my best friends are Jewish) but it would be (if it were true) like a parent company having two products that compete against each other purely to increase profits. If its a hot contest then even better.

[Goofy Goober]

Jewish people control everything. They make the world go round, the sun shine, and goobers goofy.

If someone told me every US president was a puppet in front of a Jewish person I would believe em. Those people are smart!

(just kidding, they dont really everyone just says that cus jewish people are really smart)

[Gustave5436]

Nazis are paranoid, you can't expect them to be rational.

[Flame Darkfire]

Gustave5436, on Dec 15 2007, 02:40 PM, said:

Nazis are paranoid, you can't expect them to be rational.

I concur, thus I quote this.

[El Pilchinator]

There aren't too many times I can say "I agree with Gustave".


This is one of those times.

[Jakevy Jacob XXVI]

Don't you realise that they'd just retreat to their secret Jew-bunkers and wait until the world had stopped glowing, then they could conquer the world with their heathen beliefs!!!

[President President]

Vaal Satori, on Dec 15 2007, 06:22 PM, said:

So the first Nazis accused Jews of being the driving force behind Communism and of controlling the Soviet Union. The only problem with that belief is that the Soviet Union continuously backed the Arabs in the Arab-Israeli conflicts, and seemed to be in favor of the dissolution of the state of Israel and the inevitable holocaust that would have followed. So why would the Jews in the USSR use the country's resources to seek the annihilation of their own people?

There is a problem with your historical knowledge here. The whole Nazi thing - I believe it was called World War 2 - was over by 1945. The state of Israel didn't come into existence until 1949. No overlap. The geopolitics of the Middle East with special reference to the Cold War would take more time and space to explore than we have here. I would only suggest however, that the Soviet regime had two prime reasons for supporting secular Arab nationalism during this period. The first is that the Americans supported Israel. That is enough for any Soviet leader to want to support the other side. The second is the deeply held and abiding Soviet anti-Semitism. The Soviet leadership would never have admitted as much citing freedom of worship and a commitment to friendship between nations in the Basic Law of the Soviet Union but such a thing existed at all levels of Soviet society and must have been a factor in one way or another.

Vaal Satori, on Dec 15 2007, 06:22 PM, said:

Also, current neo-nazis accuse Jews of controlling the United States and Capitalism, and using them to advance Jewish agendas. The problem is, if Jews have historically controlled Capitalism, and if they have also historically controlled Communism, then why did the two ideologies seek to annihilate one another? Why were the United States and the Soviet Union mortal enemies if they were both controlled by the same people, and why would Jews bring the two countries to the brink of nuclear war, which would have eradicated the Jews themselves? That simply does not make any sense.

Here you have the essential problem. You believe the hype. They were only pretending all along.

[steodonn]

Thats what the Jews what you to think

[mushi]

Jews are pretty smart people, and i believe they control caplistism.(no neo0nazis. thats what i think)
i heard Jews study for 12hrs a day in there own schools and

[Anglo-fuhrer]

mushi, on Dec 21 2007, 01:10 PM, said:

Jews are pretty smart people, and i believe they control caplistism.(no neo0nazis. thats what i think)
i heard Jews study for 12hrs a day in there own schools and

I'm glad someone is.

[AussieAvenger]

don't listern to the jewish propaganda, all they want is more jew gold, lol funnies things ever, the theory of jew gold

[Lavo_2]

I love Jew conspiracy theories. They're funnier then many comedians. According to them, I apparently control the world and the media.

[Magnus Nordir]

The 'main' Jew conspiracy is that jews control communism and capitalism as a means of mixing all the races to destroy the Aryan races' (or sometimes a far eastern group) superiority. Thus allowing them to rule the world unchallenged in a satanic, baby eating one world government where blacks roam the street raping white women, and eating the children in rituals. Contrary to popular belief (it really is up to interpretation, but) apparently Jews "are" high up on the racial hierarchy in many ways. Hitler essentially equated them with reactionary, opportunist thought, a perpetuation of corruption an antithesis of creativity. They pretty much "were" geniuses with analytical superiority, but no real creative fuse. If we look at his philosophy of 'the Jew' purely in the abstract, we could say that an example of "the Jew's work" would be the Nazi government itself. The same shoe fits for 'the capitalists', 'the reds', 'satan', 'Israel', 'the po-po', and pretty much every 'them' in us vs. them mentality, i.e. reaction over creative thought.

I'm not an anti-semite, but I'm not surprised at all by the phenomenon of anti-semitism.

This post has been edited by Ikarus: 21 December 2007 - 11:45 AM