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Following the CnC/AcTi announcement where I, the second in command, was not listed under as signed. Didn't seem like a big deal, however I decided to message who posted it that I should always be included in such announcements.


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:. Sent Message
To: xR1 fatal instinct From: Teddyyo Date: 11/1/2010 11:28:13 PM

Subject: AcTi announcements


Message: ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS place my name and title (General of the East) along with Batallion's and, if you wish, yours. It's one of those things, mate.





:. Received Message
To: Teddyyo From: xR1 fatal instinct Date: 11/2/2010 6:12:36 AM

Subject: RE: AcTi announcements


Message: Alright but only mine and battys go on treaties.





:. Sent Message
To: xR1 fatal instinct From: Teddyyo Date: 11/2/2010 2:30:01 PM

Subject: RE: AcTi announcements


Message: I don't think you understand. I'll make it real clear for you:

Batallion AND I run this alliance. He's technically the leader, however every major and most minor decisions are made bilaterally. Nothing of any importance happens before both of us discuss the topic. Batallion and I have a partnership across games that is unrivaled.

I don't mean to be condescending, just trying to let you understand it all.


Tedd.





:. Received Message
To: Teddyyo From: xR1 fatal instinct Date: 11/2/2010 3:20:40 PM

Subject: RE: AcTi announcements


Message: So is that why your name isn't on 90% of our things. Batallion said himself General of the East isn't a real government position.





:. Received Message
To: Teddyyo From: xR1 fatal instinct Date: 11/2/2010 3:24:14 PM

Subject: RE: AcTi announcements


Message: Also I'll put it real simple for you, do something in foreign affairs (get on forums and help diplomatic relationships) and I will put your name on a treaty

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Session Start: Tue Nov 02 18:47:58 2010
Session Ident: #AcTi
03[18:47] * Now talking in #AcTi
03[18:47] * Topic is 'Welcome to AcTi's Public Channel, Please do enjoy your stay here, Drinks and Refreshements will be served | [url="http://cn-acti.cz.cc/index.php%0F"]http://cn-acti.cz.cc/index.php'[/url]
03[18:47] * Set by xR1[AcTi-MoFa] on Sun Oct 10 01:08:18
03[18:48] * +Jensofthedesert has left #AcTi
03[18:48] * Teddyyo[AFK] is now known as Teddyyo
03[18:48] * ChanServ sets mode: +o Teddyyo
01[18:48] <@Teddyyo> xR1
01[18:48] <@Teddyyo> are you here?
[18:48] <&xR1[AcTi-MoFA]> no
01[18:48] <@Teddyyo> stelios, you here?
01[18:48] <@Teddyyo> all right xR1
01[18:49] <@Teddyyo> let me explain something to you
01[18:49] <@Teddyyo> AcTi is a clan that has existed longer than CN
[18:49] <&xR1[AcTi-MoFA]> I know that
01[18:49] <@Teddyyo> we stretch back into 04
[18:49] <&xR1[AcTi-MoFA]> i've played sc for 10+ years
01[18:49] <@Teddyyo> i have been a member of AcTi
[18:49] <&xR1[AcTi-MoFA]> member
01[18:49] <@Teddyyo> and second in command
[18:49] <&xR1[AcTi-MoFA]> nah
01[18:49] <@Teddyyo> for two years
[18:49] <&xR1[AcTi-MoFA]> co-founder
[18:49] <&xR1[AcTi-MoFA]> not second in command
01[18:50] <@Teddyyo> listen you whore
01[18:50] <@Teddyyo> you are a newcomer
[18:50] <&xR1[AcTi-MoFA]> Shut the $%&@ up
[18:50] <&xR1[AcTi-MoFA]> jiggaboo
01[18:50] <@Teddyyo> you will learn your place
01[18:50] <@Teddyyo> I am second in command of AcTi
[18:50] <&xR1[AcTi-MoFA]> not really
01[18:50] <@Teddyyo> That is a fact
01[18:50] <@Teddyyo> You will be respectful to me
[18:50] <&xR1[AcTi-MoFA]> Nah
01[18:50] <@Teddyyo> And to Batallion
[18:50] <&xR1[AcTi-MoFA]> I repsect batallion
[18:50] <&xR1[AcTi-MoFA]> not you
01[18:50] <@Teddyyo> And to the way thigns are run in AcTi
01[18:51] <@Teddyyo> I asked you nicely to add my name to the treaty
[18:51] <&xR1[AcTi-MoFA]> No you didnt
01[18:51] <@Teddyyo> just like it is everywhere else
[18:51] <&xR1[AcTi-MoFA]> No it's not
01[18:51] <@Teddyyo> and you snap back at me
03[18:51] * Abdur has joined #AcTi
03[18:51] * xR1[AcTi-MoFA] sets mode: +v Abdur
01[18:51] <@Teddyyo> if I had my way you'd be under ZI right now
[18:51] <&xR1[AcTi-MoFA]> Come at me bro
01[18:51] <@Teddyyo> i now know why you were a failure wherever you were before
01[18:52] <@Teddyyo> you can't keep your damn mouth shut and your pride hidden
[18:52] <&xR1[AcTi-MoFA]> So I'm getting AcTi friends is fail?
01[18:52] <@Teddyyo> i honestly
[18:52] <&xR1[AcTi-MoFA]> If it wasn't for me you guys would have no relations with anyone but vnv
01[18:53] <@Teddyyo> don't care about treaties with micros
[18:53] <&xR1[AcTi-MoFA]> DT isnt a micro
01[18:53] <@Teddyyo> i'm not talking about DT
[18:53] <&xR1[AcTi-MoFA]> Obviously you are
01[18:53] <@Teddyyo> DT and AcTi have been defacto friends
01[18:53] <@Teddyyo> for a long time
[18:53] <&xR1[AcTi-MoFA]> Lol I'm sure.
01[18:53] <@Teddyyo> that's it
01[18:53] <@Teddyyo> get the $%&@ out of AcTi's channel
[18:54] <&xR1[AcTi-MoFA]> No
01[18:54] <@Teddyyo> yes
03[18:54] * You were kicked by xR1[AcTi-MoFA] (xR1[AcTi-MoFA])
Session Close: Tue Nov 02 18:54:16 2010
Session Start: Tue Nov 02 18:56:17 2010
Session Ident: #AcTi
03[18:56] * Now talking in #AcTi
03[18:56] * Topic is 'Welcome to AcTi's Public Channel, Please do enjoy your stay here, Drinks and Refreshements will be served | [url="http://cn-acti.cz.cc/index.php%0F"]http://cn-acti.cz.cc/index.php'[/url]
03[18:56] * Set by xR1[AcTi-MoFa] on Sun Oct 10 01:08:18
03[18:56] * ChanServ sets mode: +o Teddyyo
01[18:56] <@Teddyyo> Stelios you back now
[18:56] <+Stelios> yes
01[18:56] <@Teddyyo> please explain to this little hack
01[18:56] <@Teddyyo> that AcTi is led by Batallion and I
01[18:56] <@Teddyyo> and formerly you
[18:57] <+Stelios> xR1 he is correct out charter states it
[18:57] <+Stelios> It is in writing
[18:57] <&xR1[AcTi-MoFA]> we dont have a charter
[18:57] <+Stelios> your a liar
01[18:57] <@Teddyyo> yes, we do
[18:57] <+Stelios> its short but sweet
[18:58] <+Stelios> and techincally there is no MoFA of AcTi
[18:58] <+Stelios> there is just bat and Teddyyo
[18:58] <&xR1[AcTi-MoFA]> me and bat made necessary government positions
[18:58] <&xR1[AcTi-MoFA]> you guys are out of the loop
01[18:58] <@Teddyyo> who the $%&@ are you?
01[18:58] <@Teddyyo> you joined like two months ago
[18:59] <&xR1[AcTi-MoFA]> yet ive done more than you have in the entire duration of its existence
01[18:59] <@Teddyyo> you have done nothing
[18:59] <&xR1[AcTi-MoFA]> treaties, forums, wiki, irc
01[18:59] <@Teddyyo> lol?
01[18:59] <@Teddyyo> we had forums
[18:59] <&xR1[AcTi-MoFA]> gay forums
01[18:59] <@Teddyyo> thanks for telling me you made new one
[18:59] <&xR1[AcTi-MoFA]> i made better forums
01[18:59] <@Teddyyo> we already had IRC
[18:59] <&xR1[AcTi-MoFA]> with no one in it
[18:59] <&xR1[AcTi-MoFA]> i brought all these people
01[18:59] <@Teddyyo> the wiki matters for jack
[19:00] <&xR1[AcTi-MoFA]> lol no
[19:00] <&xR1[AcTi-MoFA]> wiki tells the history of the alliance
[19:00] <+Stelios> wiki nt!@#$ we had forums bat said we really didnt need them
01[19:00] <@Teddyyo> becuase we don't
01[19:00] <@Teddyyo> because the gov't was us three
[19:00] <&xR1[AcTi-MoFA]> we need them for foreign affairs business
[19:00] <&xR1[AcTi-MoFA]> and military planning
01[19:00] <@Teddyyo> stelios, myself, and bat
01[19:00] <@Teddyyo> and let's use real name
01[19:00] <@Teddyyo> from SC
01[19:00] <@Teddyyo> J3WSAD3R (Stelios)
01[19:01] <@Teddyyo> Dark-lunatic-K
01[19:01] <@Teddyyo> (Batallion)
01[19:01] <@Teddyyo> and myself
[19:01] <&xR1[AcTi-MoFA]> no !@#$
[19:01] <&xR1[AcTi-MoFA]> i play with bat on CSS
01[19:01] <@Teddyyo> oooo
01[19:01] <@Teddyyo> a FPS
01[19:01] <@Teddyyo> that no one cares about
[19:01] <&xR1[AcTi-MoFA]> lol
[19:01] <&xR1[AcTi-MoFA]> sc is dead
01[19:01] <@Teddyyo> those come a dime a dozen
01[19:01] <@Teddyyo> and are nothing like clan structures in SXC
01[19:01] <@Teddyyo> SC
[19:01] <&xR1[AcTi-MoFA]> CSS is one of the best FPS games ever
01[19:01] <@Teddyyo> again
01[19:01] <@Teddyyo> FPS
01[19:01] <@Teddyyo> there are hundreds if not thousands of those
[19:02] <&xR1[AcTi-MoFA]> so are you done chest pumping
[19:02] <&xR1[AcTi-MoFA]> and threatening ZI
01[19:02] <@Teddyyo> lol?
01[19:02] <@Teddyyo> i'm just pointing out
01[19:02] <@Teddyyo> that you are denouncing the 2inC
03[19:02] * Jarvis[MCXA] is now known as Jarvis[MCXA|Away]
01[19:02] <@Teddyyo> after he politely asked to be put on the treaty
[19:03] <&xR1[AcTi-MoFA]> You didnt politely ask
01[19:03] <@Teddyyo> "ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS place my name and title (General of the East) along with Batallion's and, if you wish, yours. It's one of those things, mate."
[19:03] <&xR1[AcTi-MoFA]> You came off as a jackass to me
01[19:03] <@Teddyyo> seems polite to me
[19:03] <&xR1[AcTi-MoFA]> you didnt say please and thank you
[19:04] <&xR1[AcTi-MoFA]> fail parenting
01[19:04] <@Teddyyo> lol?
01[19:04] <@Teddyyo> you had better do some explaining
01[19:04] <@Teddyyo> as to what your social disability is
01[19:04] <@Teddyyo> becuase right now I see a minor gov't member that is publicly insulting me
[19:04] <&xR1[AcTi-MoFA]> You aint !@#$ bruh
01[19:05] <@Teddyyo> LOLL
03[19:10] * You were kicked by xR1[AcTi-MoFA] (xR1[AcTi-MoFA])
Session Close: Tue Nov 02 19:10:45 2010

Session Start: Tue Nov 02 19:13:04 2010
Session Ident: #AcTi
03[19:13] * Now talking in #AcTi
03[19:13] * Topic is 'Welcome to AcTi's Public Channel, Please do enjoy your stay here, Drinks and Refreshements will be served | [url="http://cn-acti.cz.cc/index.php%0F"]http://cn-acti.cz.cc/index.php'[/url]
03[19:13] * Set by xR1[AcTi-MoFa] on Sun Oct 10 01:08:18
03[19:13] * ChanServ sets mode: +o Teddyyo
[19:13] <+Stelios> ...at first. you were rude as $%&@ to me
[19:13] <&xR1[AcTi-MoFA]> i dont have to be nice on the intrabuttz
[19:13] <+Stelios> This is an Alliance
[19:13] <+Stelios> a team
[19:14] <&xR1[AcTi-MoFA]> that you arent apart of
[19:14] <+Stelios> my own choice
[19:14] <&xR1[AcTi-MoFA]> heh
01[19:15] <@Teddyyo> xR1
01[19:15] <@Teddyyo> Stelios is an alliance friend
01[19:15] <@Teddyyo> you be nice to him too
[19:15] <&xR1[AcTi-MoFA]> I am
01[19:15] <@Teddyyo> you should be respectful to everybody
[19:15] <&xR1[AcTi-MoFA]> this was before I was in AcTi
01[19:16] <@Teddyyo> I don't care
[19:16] <&xR1[AcTi-MoFA]> and dont be a prick to me then expect me to be respectful to you
01[19:16] <@Teddyyo> he's a member of another alliance
01[19:16] <@Teddyyo> and a former government member
01[19:16] <@Teddyyo> he deserves your respect
[19:16] <&xR1[AcTi-MoFA]> He has it, you dont.
01[19:16] <@Teddyyo> you aren't giving it to him
[19:17] <&xR1[AcTi-MoFA]> I hardly talk to him
01[19:17] <@Teddyyo> really now?
[19:17] <&xR1[AcTi-MoFA]> also there is a huge difference between a founder and a leader
01[19:17] <@Teddyyo> <+Stelios> ...at first. you were rude as $%&@ to me
01[19:17] <@Teddyyo> <&xR1[AcTi-MoFA]> i dont have to be nice on the intrabuttz
01[19:17] <@Teddyyo> <+Stelios> This is an Alliance
01[19:17] <@Teddyyo> <+Stelios> a team
01[19:17] <@Teddyyo> <&xR1[AcTi-MoFA]> that you arent apart of
01[19:17] <@Teddyyo> <+Stelios> my own choice
01[19:17] <@Teddyyo> <&xR1[AcTi-MoFA]> heh
[19:17] <&xR1[AcTi-MoFA]> OMG LOG DUMP!
[19:17] <+Stelios> Dont worry about me, you guys are a team and need to work together
01[19:18] <@Teddyyo> Stelios
[19:18] <+Stelios> yes
01[19:18] <@Teddyyo> i think you are a necessary part of telling this guy
01[19:18] <@Teddyyo> he's not a BA
[19:18] <&xR1[AcTi-MoFA]> When did I say I was a badass?
01[19:19] <@Teddyyo> you act like you are
01[19:19] <@Teddyyo> i've had enough of this conversation
01[19:19] <@Teddyyo> goodbye
[19:19] <&xR1[AcTi-MoFA]> Get out then
[19:19] <+Stelios> you did say you wanted to roll me one day
03[19:19] * Teddyyo is now known as Teddyyo[AFK]
[19:19] <%Wifey> infighting dont look good in pub channels just letting you 2 know :P
[19:19] <&xR1[AcTi-MoFA]> he brought it here
[19:19] <&xR1[AcTi-MoFA]> im ending it here
01[19:19] <@Teddyyo[AFK]> reading comprehension ftw
01[19:19] <@Teddyyo[AFK]> <@Teddyyo> i've had enough of this conversation
01[19:19] <@Teddyyo[AFK]> <@Teddyyo> goodbye
03[19:19] * xR1[AcTi-MoFA] sets mode: +b
03[19:19] * You were kicked by xR1[AcTi-MoFA] (xR1[AcTi-MoFA])
Session Close: Tue Nov 02 19:19:56 2010
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#AcTi unable to join channel (address is banned)
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* Your nick is now Tedyyo
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* Your nick is now Teddyyo
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#AcTi unable to join channel (address is banned)
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Afterwards, my mIRC broke, and then had private chats with Batallion via Coldfront client. I'd post those too if I could.


This lower government member, in the alliance for [b]24[/b] days, mouthed off at me after I asked a simple request. He goes on. We argue for awhile, Stelios joins in and we show how little knowledge he posesses about AcTi (which has been around longer than CN).

He kicks me from the channel several times during this and bans me (no idea why he was higher than me in admin powers)

I know a !@#$ when I see one.


Batallion gets on later, and we discuss what happens. I told him: that guy, or me.

He said: me.


So here I am. Goodbye AcTi, clan I have been in through multiple games in multiple years. Sad to have to leave because of one guy, however I am not going to be around when AcTi fails because of mistakes he will make. Because of him smarting off to people, one of which will eventually be one he shouldn't have.

So here, I say, adieux.
Teddyyo
Former AcTi General of the East, Second in Command.

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[quote name='KingEd' timestamp='1288753814' post='2500430']
And xr1 was asking why I thought AcTi is a joke. :lol1:
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Watch yourself, I'm not in the mood for your nonsense. TPE is the worst alliance ever dude, I think I've made that perfectly clear on IRC.

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[quote name='Batallion' timestamp='1288754048' post='2500433']
Watch yourself, I'm not in the mood for your nonsense. TPE is the worst alliance ever dude, I think I've made that perfectly clear on IRC.
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As of 24 days ago, AcTi stepped up its competition.

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[quote name='Batallion' timestamp='1288754048' post='2500433']
Watch yourself, I'm not in the mood for your nonsense. TPE is the worst alliance ever dude, I think I've made that perfectly clear on IRC.
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Oh please...I'm right here, come, bite me.

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[quote name='Jaymjaym' timestamp='1288754134' post='2500435']
Was there any real point to this besides attempting a log dump?

Basically what I am asking is why do you think anyone is interested in your internal drama?
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They really shouldn't be, unless they're in TPE since TPE is [i]the ultimate[/i].
Realistically Teddy is merely trying to grab for attention with this. Do note he threatened to nuke xR1, I pretty much saved him from doing so by talking him into his senses. He's gone completely mad.

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For the record Battalion: Letting a relatively new member undermine the authority of a friend to whom you gave authority within your alliance not only makes you look bad/weak but undermines your overall authority as well. Ill wait for XR1 to coup you within the next few weeks.

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[quote name='KingEd' timestamp='1288754369' post='2500443']
For the record Battalion: Letting a relatively new member undermine the authority of a friend to whom you gave authority within your alliance not only makes you look bad/weak but undermines your overall authority as well. Ill wait for XR1 to coup you within the next few weeks.
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As I said before, this isn't the complete story. This all happened before I was even online. I came online and had a very long discussion with Teddy that he was in the right and xR1 shouldn't have done what he did. I told Teddy that I would get xR1 to apologize for his actions, and Teddy was demanding stupid things like "xR1 should be kicked out of AcTi", "choose him or me", and other such nonsense which really is not logical at all. Teddyyo was determined to create a division within AcTi rather than help us get over this really stupid event.

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[quote name='Batallion' timestamp='1288754294' post='2500440']
They really shouldn't be, unless they're in TPE since TPE is [i]the ultimate[/i].
Realistically Teddy is merely trying to grab for attention with this. Do note he threatened to nuke xR1, I pretty much saved him from doing so by talking him into his senses. He's gone completely mad.
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We're not the ultimate [i]alliance.[/i] I never said that, you did. But in thinking you know us so well and have us so figured out you drew that conclusion. Cute. However, we don't need your praise.

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[quote name='Batallion' timestamp='1288754606' post='2500449']
As I said before, this isn't the complete story. This all happened before I was even online. I came online and had a very long discussion with Teddy that he was in the right and xR1 shouldn't have done what he did. I told Teddy that I would get xR1 to apologize for his actions, and Teddy was demanding stupid things like "xR1 should be kicked out of AcTi", "choose him or me", and other such nonsense which really is not logical at all. Teddyyo was determined to create a division within AcTi rather than help us get over this really stupid event.
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I didn't say he should be kicked. I said he must be kicked, to snip the bud before it blooms into a nightmare. You didn't agree. I said, him or me. You made your choice.

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[quote name='Teddyyo' timestamp='1288754578' post='2500448']
You made me resign, Bat, by placing no punishment whatsoever on him except a promotion to an equal position as me in the new charter.

Man, is that a trick. 24 days in an alliance and being put in the highest council.
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No, we don't currently have an official charter, only one you wrote up long ago which is outdated and not even documented anywhere other than in your head. Obviously I was trying to create order by constructing a suitable charter where you and xR1's roles in the alliance are well defined. However, bringing this issue on the OWF was the dumbest move you'll ever make, so forget everything and don't ever talk to me again.

With that said, I take my leave from this thread permanently for it suits no real purpose other than attention craving and airing dirty laundry which every alliance in CN should have every once in a while (although not always aired).

Goodbye.

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[quote name='Batallion' timestamp='1288754606' post='2500449']
As I said before, this isn't the complete story. This all happened before I was even online. I came online and had a very long discussion with Teddy that he was in the right and xR1 shouldn't have done what he did. I told Teddy that I would get xR1 to apologize for his actions, and Teddy was demanding stupid things like "xR1 should be kicked out of AcTi", "choose him or me", and other such nonsense which really is not logical at all. Teddyyo was determined to create a division within AcTi rather than help us get over this really stupid event.
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I'm not one to talk when it comes to picking between 2 individuals since I'm usually biased. However, in this particular instance I would have given the benefit of any doubt to my long time second in command instead of the "new" kid on the Bloc. I don't know about you, but for me it's all a matter of trust. Now, if you trust a "24 day member" over a tenured government member, that's your prerogative; one which is in my opinion---a foolish idea.

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[quote name='Batallion' timestamp='1288754835' post='2500460']
No, we don't currently have an official charter, only one you wrote up long ago which is outdated and not even documented anywhere other than in your head. Obviously I was trying to create order by constructing a suitable charter where you and xR1's roles in the alliance are well defined. However, bringing this issue on the OWF was the dumbest move you'll ever make, so forget everything and don't ever talk to me again.

With that said, I take my leave from this thread permanently for it suits no real purpose other than attention craving and airing dirty laundry which every alliance in CN should have every once in a while (although not always aired).

Goodbye.
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No charter?
http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=81960&view=&hl=&fromsearch=1#
It is in my post, the charter we made and agreed on.

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[quote name='Teddyyo' timestamp='1288755237' post='2500476']
No charter?
http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=81960&view=&hl=&fromsearch=1#
It is in my post, the charter we made and agreed on.
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Okay thanks for proving my point.

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AcTi Charter

1.
Government.

A. Batallion is the undisputed leader of AcTi.
B. Batallion decides all other government positions in AcTi.
C. All violators will be taken behind the barn and shot You don't like it, too bad.


2.
Disbandment.

A. Batallion decides if AcTi is disbanded (read: never)


Signed,

Batallion, Emperor of AcTi
Teddyyo, Commander of AcTi
Stelios, Commander of AcTi
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Official AcTi charter, please point out where you are the "2nd in command" of AcTi.

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Where it says
Signed,
Teddyyo, Commander of AcTi


Before you try to spin, 'not 2inC!!!', look at the Stelios controversy threads, where it clearly says I was 2inC.

Nice try, though.


Didn't you say you're not going to reply?

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I think what we have here is not enough communication.

Teddyyo obviously thought the ordering of signatures (slash a verbally given title) mattered, which it does on other planets such as SC, from where he hails.

Since this is a political simulation game where this hier-archy is ultimate, versus the other planet where the skill level at the map in question (UMS ftw) is ultimate.

Teddyyo, I know I don't know you, but heed my advice, take a step back, hit peace mode, wait a day or two. See what you think then, afterwards do what you think is right.

Also, as to the XR1's "coup attempt" I think that is BS. Though what has been said stating it is obvious that he has no/will have no respect for battalion is right on the mark.

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