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#1 User is offline   Kenadian_2006 

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Posted 24 November 2007 - 12:06 AM

http://www.macleans....t...6054&page=1

I'm not gonna bother quoting all 5 pages of that, read it if you want. What I WILL quote is the poll results, the interesting parts.

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AMERICA'S UNREQUITED LOVE
We think they’re the single greatest threat to global stability and give their president a score of 2.4 out of 10. The U.S., though, takes a more generous view of us. 68% (more than in any other country) think Canada is a leader in terms of human rights and global peace; they’re also more likely to say
Canada’s greatest asset is its people. We get the benefit of the doubt in other ways.

If you moved to Canada, would you expect to have a better quality of life? (% who agree)
United States 91%
Rest of world 85

Is the Northwest Passage a Canadian waterway? (% who agree)
United States 55%
Rest of world 31

Is Canada a partner in the military or peacekeeping operations currently taking place in: (% who agree)
Afghanistan:
United States 93%
Rest of world 23

IRAQ:
United States 51% (they’re wrong)
Rest of world 25


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WHO ADMIRES WHOM?
Percentage who said they greatly admire the following world leaders. Canada proved more critical than most.

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad - Iran:
Canada 1%
China 18%
Turkey 16%

GEORGE W. BUSH - United States:
Canada 5%
U.S. 11%
Israel 32%

Pervez Musharraf - Pakistan:
Canada 1%
India 14%
Turkey 26%

ANGELA MERKEL - Germany:
Canada 12%
Italy 37%
Britain 7%

... AND WHO DOESN'T?

GORDON BROWN - Britain:
Canada 19%
U.S. 10%
Britain 34%

Hugo Chávez - Venezuela:
Canada 41%
U.S. 34%
Turkey 13%

Kim Jong Il - North Korea:
Canada 73%
U.S. 59%
China 23%

VLADIMIR PUTIN - Russia:
Canada 47%
U.S. 32%
Russia 11%


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... AND WHO DOESN'T?

GORDON BROWN - Britain:
Canada 19%
U.S. 10%
Britain 34%

Hugo Chávez - Venezuela:
Canada 41%
U.S. 34%
Turkey 13%

Kim Jong Il - North Korea:
Canada 73%
U.S. 59%
China 23%

VLADIMIR PUTIN - Russia:
Canada 47%
U.S. 32%
11%

Stephen Harper 59%
Angela Merkel 57%
Vladimir Putin 53%
Gordon Brown 50%
George W. Bush 38%

Kim Jong Il 38%
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad 33%


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MIRROR, MIRROR ON THE WALL
Who’s the best-ranked leader of them all? Mr. Popularity, it turns out, is Prime Minister Stephen Harper: 36% of Canadians said they don’t admire him at all, but 30% of Americans, 21% of Chinese, 25% of Indians, and almost as many Turks, admire him greatly. Perhaps Harper just benefits from Canada’s rosy glow abroad, but here’s how he stacked up against other leaders in overall rankings.


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WHO'S AFRAID OF WHOM?
Religious fundamentalism ranked high, though the al-Qaeda bogeyman drew relatively low numbers except in Russia and India. Only 15% of Americans named al-Qaeda the top threat, fewer than the 23% who chose the U.S. itself. Among countries, the U.S. was almost always the greatest threat. North Korea got less than 6% of votes in most places, and Russia less than 2%. Fewer than 10% anywhere chose Iran as the greatest threat—except in Israel (52%).


THE GREAT GREEN NORTH
Canada is an energy hog, ranking 28th out of 29 OECD countries on 25 key environmental indicators. But that’s not what our global neighbours think. Only the U.S. is skeptical of our environmental record, with 39% agreeing that Canada is one of the worst per capita emitters of greenhouse gases. (Another 43% think we’re leading the environmental charge.) With such a stellar image, who needs an environmental plan?

Canada is a leader in fighting climate change and cutting greenhouse gas emissions (% who agree):
Britain 52%
Russia 71%
India 82%
Italy 69%
United States 43%


FROM SEA TO GRIPING SEA
Canadian views on the state of the nation are on the gloomy side, but not uniformly so. Some parts of the country are even more pessimistic than others.


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Corruption is a big problem (% who agree):
Manitoba/Saskatchewan 65%
Quebec 57%
Alberta 53%
B.C./Ontario/Atlantic provinces 42%

Canada has a justice system that treats everyone the same way (% who agree):
Manitoba/Saskatchewan 8%
Alberta/Ontario 14%
B.C./Quebec 22%
Atlantic provinces 25%

Canada is a responsible actor on the world stage (% who agree):
Manitoba/Saskatchewan 70%
B.C./Atlantic provinces/Ontario 61%
Alberta 57%
Quebec 46%


If this is too large of a post to read, just go to the 4th and 5th pages of the article; the poll results are listed there.

Good to know Russians like our leader more than we do. :awesome: Also good to know the UK knows jack !@#$ about its child. :wacko:

This post has been edited by Kenadian_2006: 24 November 2007 - 12:09 AM


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Posted 24 November 2007 - 01:30 AM

How is it that 55% of Americans know the Northwest Passage is a Canadian waterway but can't name the three branches of government?

And how is it that 30% of Americans "greatly admire" Stephen Harper? I would bet that if asked either "Who is Stephen Harper?" or "Who is the Prime Minister of Canada?", less than 30% would answer correctly.

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Posted 24 November 2007 - 01:34 AM

*shrugs* Look at the last section on the 5th page, it shows how they did it.

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Posted 24 November 2007 - 01:34 AM

View PostMoridin, on Nov 24 2007, 07:29 AM, said:

How is it that 55% of Americans know the Northwest Passage is a Canadian waterway but can't name the three branches of government?

And how is it that 30% of Americans "greatly admire" Stephen Harper? I would bet that if asked either "Who is Stephen Harper?" or "Who is the Prime Minister of Canada?", less than 30% would answer correctly.



The numbers seemed a bit off to me as well.

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Posted 24 November 2007 - 02:32 AM

What is your point?

So a lot of Canadians are critical of their government, well considering they live there, maybe they know what they are talking about. Like the article said, Canada has some of the highest per capita carbon dioxide and sulfur dioxide emissions in the world, yet has a reputation for being as Green as Sweden. Perception does not equal reality.

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Posted 24 November 2007 - 04:28 AM

500 internal server error. Can someone fix the link?

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Posted 24 November 2007 - 06:11 AM

View PostKenadian_2006, on Nov 24 2007, 01:06 AM, said:

Good to know Russians like our leader more than we do. :awesome: Also good to know the UK knows jack !@#$ about its child. :wacko:


Yes, as long as it's more likely Americans nuke America, things are better. I know I wouldn't nuke myself.

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Posted 24 November 2007 - 07:32 AM

Can anyone explain to me why Canada is thought of as such a great country? I never quite caught the part why they are so amazing.

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Posted 24 November 2007 - 10:23 AM

View PostGgohdin, on Nov 24 2007, 11:31 PM, said:

Can anyone explain to me why Canada is thought of as such a great country? I never quite caught the part why they are so amazing.


Because it is so similar to America, but with fewer of the problems and has legitimizing effect on foreign policy.

You see foreign power can be generally divided into Superpowers (or Hyperpower if there is only one Superpower), Great Powers, Regional Powers, Middle Powers, and Small Powers. It is the Middle Powers (like Canada, Australia, Brazil, Italy, etc.) that make the goals and actions of Superpowers and Great Powers legitimate in the international view. It is because they are powerful enough in military and/or economic power to stand on their own for most situations, yet small enough that active relationships with larger powers are beneficial. When Middle Powers go along with something, it shows there might be something to the plan, because they are can't afford to waste resources backing unworkable international organizations or waging a war against an enemy that isn't much of a threat the way Superpowers can.

Also, Middle Powers prefer to take more of a diplomatic role in international affairs. Some countries have bad relations with the Superpower/s or Great Powers for real and/or imagined grievances and Middle Powers acts as the middlemen for the the larger powers.

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Posted 24 November 2007 - 10:25 AM

Also, middle powers tend to have shorter histories of making everyone hate them. Hence why the AU makes every attempt it can to annoy the EU.

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Posted 24 November 2007 - 10:26 AM

View PostGgohdin, on Nov 24 2007, 08:31 AM, said:

Can anyone explain to me why Canada is thought of as such a great country? I never quite caught the part why they are so amazing.


That's the whole point of this topic, to find the answer to that. ;)

I want to know why some perceive Canada in general as so...good, without knowing the country. A good example of us being given the benefit of the doubt is on environmental performance.

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Posted 24 November 2007 - 10:29 AM

I love Canada, I like to travel to Vancouver BC and Whislter fairly often.

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Posted 24 November 2007 - 10:32 AM

View PostKenadian_2006, on Nov 24 2007, 04:26 PM, said:

That's the whole point of this topic, to find the answer to that. ;)

I want to know why some perceive Canada in general as so...good, without knowing the country. A good example of us being given the benefit of the doubt is on environmental performance.

I don't think Canada is that amazing, happy now?

The only things which I pick out Canada for being good is that they are helping in Afghanistan, plus a fellow commonwealth realm.

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Posted 24 November 2007 - 10:35 AM

View PostSmallfrog, on Nov 24 2007, 11:32 AM, said:

I don't think Canada is that amazing, happy now?

The only things which I pick out Canada for being good is that they are helping in Afghanistan, plus a fellow commonwealth realm.


Well, no not really that doesn't help. I'm more looking for the answer as to why those who like us so much, do. For Ikarus I would think it would be the environment, especially because he is going up to BC.

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Posted 24 November 2007 - 10:39 AM

View PostKenadian_2006, on Nov 24 2007, 08:35 AM, said:

Well, no not really that doesn't help. I'm more looking for the answer as to why those who like us so much, do. For Ikarus I would think it would be the environment, especially because he is going up to BC.


Environment (BC is beautiful), marijuana laws, drinking age, healthcare, cool flag, reasonable military spending, etc.

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Posted 24 November 2007 - 10:41 AM

View PostKenadian_2006, on Nov 24 2007, 12:26 PM, said:

That's the whole point of this topic, to find the answer to that. ;)

I want to know why some perceive Canada in general as so...good, without knowing the country. A good example of us being given the benefit of the doubt is on environmental performance.

Well to be fair, we are a northern country with a very low population density and an economy which relies heavily on; primary resource extraction, long distance road transport, and manufacturing. We are simply never going to have the emissions of a densely populated European nation with the technology that is viable today.

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Posted 24 November 2007 - 10:45 AM

View PostGalaisa, on Nov 24 2007, 11:41 AM, said:

Well to be fair, we are a northern country with a very low population density and an economy which relies heavily on; primary resource extraction, long distance road transport, and manufacturing. We are simply never going to have the emissions of a densely populated European nation with the technology that is viable today.


True, I just find it ironic that 1 of the major things people who were surveyed like about Canada is the natural environment. Perhaps they have never heard of Sudbury? :ph34r:

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Posted 24 November 2007 - 10:45 AM

View PostIkarus, on Nov 24 2007, 04:38 PM, said:

Environment (BC is beautiful), marijuana laws, drinking age, healthcare, cool flag, reasonable military spending, etc.

UK has lake district for environment, free healthcare, coolish flag, 18 year olds buy drink+reasonable military spending. (don't go overboard but still has a good armed service.)

Do you love us?

EDIT: we also have the Humber bridge, longer span than anything in the America's.

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Posted 24 November 2007 - 10:48 AM

View PostSmallfrog, on Nov 24 2007, 08:45 AM, said:

UK has lake district for environment, free healthcare, coolish flag, 18 year olds buy drink+reasonable military spending. (don't go overboard but still has a good armed service.)

Do you love us?

EDIT: we also have the Humber bridge, longer span than anything in the America's.


I do love the UK, although it's not in as close proximity as BC. I've only been to London though. Awesome city.

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Posted 24 November 2007 - 10:49 AM

Canada is our neighbor that we never think about because they're not a threat. In Pakistan, everyone thinks about how India might come and blow them up. We don't do that in America. So basically, we like them because we have no reason not to.

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