_GunneR_ Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 *Insert quotes making fun of the "CoC"* They did the "honorable thing" in not supporting NPO's destruction of OV, yet they get insulted like you wouldn't believe. Now NEW does the same thing and are hailed. Can we at least get some consistency? Consistency? Sadly you're looking in the wrong place. Nothing about this community is consistent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeternos Astramora Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 (edited) Consistency? Sadly you're looking in the wrong place. Nothing about this community is consistent. Oh yes, that's a certainty. In fact, I've just came up with the Rule of CN Inconsistency: When talking about the enemy, bash and goad them for not acting immediately with all force available. When talking about you and your allies, defend yourself by describing your apparent inaction as strategy. Edited January 26, 2010 by Aeternos Astramora Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starcraftmazter Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 Highly unlikely SCM.. I know these guys and respect the hell out of them. If they don't believe they want to participate for a reason that they perceive may compromise their alliance's position at a later date, then who are we to judge them. They have earned their respect on the battlefield time and time again. Best to let them choose their own path as it is nice to see them come out into the political spotlight on their own I was kind of hoping for a good war - and that won't happen with alliances being too scared to do something because of some semi-related BS which does not involve their direct allies, whom they should be helping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suryanto tan Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 (edited) I was kind of hoping for a good war - and that won't happen with alliances being too scared to do something because of some semi-related BS which does not involve their direct allies, whom they should be helping. We encouraged our allies to stay out, but they choose to prioritize their other allies over us. Our allies understood our stand quite well, and most agreed on our views, though not to a point they willing to let go a chance to settle down old scores. Alliances are too scared ? I hope you do not believe what you say. This is hardly a statement of neutrality. Our allies are our friends. The friends of our allies NOT necessarily are. Edited January 26, 2010 by suryanto tan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alterego Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 We encouraged our allies to stay out, but they choose to prioritize their other allies over us. Our allies understood our stand quite well, and most agreed on our views, though not to a point they willing to let go a chance to settle down old scores. The people supporting you are doing so because they they would probably have been the ones you would have been fighting. They didnt choose to prioritise an ally over you, you told them to ignore their treaty with their other allies if it draws them into this war for selfish reasons. Our allies are our friends. The friends of our allies NOT necessarily are. You knew their friends two weeks ago and it didnt bother you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starcraftmazter Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 We encouraged our allies to stay out, but they choose to prioritize their other allies over us. Our allies understood our stand quite well, and most agreed on our views, though not to a point they willing to let go a chance to settle down old scores. Alliances are too scared ? I hope you do not believe what you say. This is hardly a statement of neutrality. Our allies are our friends. The friends of our allies NOT necessarily are. This is pretty funny. So your allies should do as you say and disregard their other allies? And so will you be joining the war or not? Your allies will need your help, are you willing to honour your treaties or be cowards? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leftbehind Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 We encouraged our allies to stay out, but they choose to prioritize their other allies over us. Our allies understood our stand quite well, and most agreed on our views, though not to a point they willing to let go a chance to settle down old scores. Alliances are too scared ? I hope you do not believe what you say. This is hardly a statement of neutrality. Our allies are our friends. The friends of our allies NOT necessarily are. They aren't prioritizing other allies over your wishes they are doing what allies are suppose to do. I am sure they realize that they do not have much room to move when it comes to treaties. We can all understand your stance on this war but it don't make it right to not defending your allies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juslen Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 Counterpoint: Nothing about this war is fun. Oh now you have gone and done it. o/ The Unfun War Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suryanto tan Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 If you are member of alliances allied to us, you need to talk more to your government, before assuming too much without knowing anything. You are all we care about. Alterego, thank you for telling me that. I did not know. When TPF, got attacked, did we scare to go in? We are one of the alliances that so disappointed with the white peace solution to the point I cannot tell you, yet. We also one of the alliance that Coincidental Coalition kept telling "DO NOT DECLARE YET, CONTACT ME! DO NOT DECLARE YET!" We wished we had ignored their order. We know how to honor our allies, you do not have to preach us on this. FYI, we let them know our stance two days ago, some earlier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookavich Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 (edited) It should be noted that before NpO was "insulted" on this thread NpO leadership referred to MK, in their embassy on our forum, as "cowards" and posited "$%&@ MK." I doubt that D34th is aware of this but the rest of you should be. Don't believe this "MK is teh meanzors" crap. Should one of your 'allies' post on your forum that you're "cowards" and "$%&@ you," what would your response be? Detlev, I could bring up literally dozens and dozens of posts of abuse by MK in that embassy that occurred long before anyone in Polaris blew their cool. This is a fine case of the pot calling the kettle black. Edited January 26, 2010 by cookavich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suryanto tan Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 This is pretty funny. So your allies should do as you say and disregard their other allies? And so will you be joining the war or not? Your allies will need your help, are you willing to honour your treaties or be cowards? I do not know where you stand in this war, but if you happened to be on polar sides, you can declare on us. The statement is quite clear. Give it a thought. You will know our stance better. Cheers.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leftbehind Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 o/ The Unfun War That's a name I can get behind. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starcraftmazter Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 I do not know where you stand in this war, but if you happened to be on polar sides, you can declare on us. The statement is quite clear. Give it a thought. You will know our stance better. Cheers.. Declare war on you instead of helping our allies? Makes perfect sense. I guess you really don't understand the concept of allies - eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suryanto tan Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 Declare war on you instead of helping our allies? Makes perfect sense. I guess you really don't understand the concept of allies - eh? I know I should not reply to you. It will only end up in endless stupid debate. I know I am intelligent, so I puzzled as of why it happened. Let's do this thread some good, if you want to talk to me that much, query me in IRC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sigelopisan Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 This is pretty funny. So your allies should do as you say and disregard their other allies? And so will you be joining the war or not? Your allies will need your help, are you willing to honour your treaties or be cowards? Well,... let NEW gov decide whether NEW will enter the war or not. Who cares about that? I don't care,... you care? Let go to the beach and see some girls. PS : Let me give you some advise. NEVER treaty with NEW. They never honour allies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gantanX Posted January 26, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 (edited) This is pretty funny. So your allies should do as you say and disregard their other allies? And so will you be joining the war or not? Your allies will need your help, are you willing to honour your treaties or be cowards? i don't think it is too much for an alliance to ask their allies to defend its "value" but, we can not force our allies to do as we will, and thus we can not be with them on this one should they enter the war on Polar side.. and as to, are we going to join this war or not, we dont know it yet, if there's a slight of chance for us to enter the war on the opposite sides of polaris we will likely take that chance Edited January 26, 2010 by gantanX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadie Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 i don't think it is too much for an alliance to ask their allies to defend its "value" but, we can not force our allies to do as we will, and thus we can not be with them on this one should they enter the war on Polar side.. and as to, are we going to join this war or not, we dont know it yet, if there's a slight of chance for us to enter the war on the opposite sides of polaris we will likely take that chance NEWs stance here is supported by their allies. I think that's something people keep deliberatly ignoring so they can have something to attack NEW with. Treaty schmeatty, you don't sign a treaty with someone with the expectation that they would go against everything they're about because they have a treaty. Anyone who expects that from their treaty partners is a selfish ally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wild wild west Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 one alliance can not and must not dictate how this game is played last i checked it wasn't cybernations.npo.net , not yet any how . not as long as everyone gets their dogs in this fight, cause if not now, you will face this in the future but by then it might just be a little to late . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxodi Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 + Standing for what you believe in - For signing treaties you don't honor Doesn't deserve the praise its getting from some, but these sort of cheap mindless hails occur in every war I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Frontier Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 I can't believe this. If you're making me agree with Starcraftmazter, you're doing something terribly wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeternos Astramora Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 one alliance can not and must not dictate how this game is played last i checked it wasn't cybernations.npo.net , not yet any how . not as long as everyone gets their dogs in this fight, cause if not now, you will face this in the future but by then it might just be a little to late . Shouldn't sign MADP's then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBone Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 Is that the sound of the other shoe dropping in the distance? Methinks so. GLHF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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