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#1 User is online   Ejayrazz 

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Posted 20 October 2009 - 07:54 PM

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MIAMI - Immigrant advocates are urging retailers to pull a Halloween costume depicting a space creature in orange prison garb emblazoned with the words "illegal alien," while a group that supports strict immigration laws says such a move impinges on freedom of speech.

Beyond the holiday uproar, the dispute highlights the controversial nature of the phrase illegal alien — still the government's official term for those in the country without a visa, though many national politicians and media increasingly avoid using it.

Since Friday, when the Coalition for Humane Immigration Rights in Los Angeles first raised the issue, companies including Target, Walgreens and eBay have removed the costume from their inventory. Still, many local retailers continue to stock the costume that also comes with a "green" card — which technically makes the alien legal.

At costume stores in Miami, the responses have been mixed.

Don King, whose mother immigrated from Cuba, bought pirate and Homer Simpson costumes Tuesday at Halloween USA in midtown Miami, where the costume is on sale but has attracted few customers. "It's a joke," King said. "I really don't think much of it."

A few miles away in the Little Havana neighborhood, workers at a popular costume store said it was not something they would carry because it was discriminatory. They do stock a human taco costume, replete with a Mariachi hat.

Perpetuating a stereotype?
Cashier Carmen Torres, who recalled facing discrimination after arriving from Cuba as a young girl in the 1960s, said the costume was tasteless. "They haven't done anything bad. you can punish those who are criminals, but not people who are trying to, trying to work," Torres said.

Target has said it sold the costume online only and that it was posted by accident because it did not meet the company's standards. eBay said it asked sellers to remove the costume because it "does not allow items that promote or glorify hatred, violence, racial, sexual, or religious intolerance, or promote organizations with such views."

Jorge-Mario Cabrera, a spokesman for the immigrant coalition, said the costume "perpetuates this idea we have about undocumented immigrants as alien foreigners, strangers, scary."

Cabrera said he knew the costume could be taken as a play on words but the jumpsuit was too close to what many immigrants must wear in detention centers, "where they can spend months at a time, and where there is a lot of suffering."

"That the creature was holding a green card was a stab at a (broader) community," he said, because it suggests even with a legal document, immigrants are still scary criminals.

Free speech
But William Gheen, head of the North Carolina-based political action committee Americans for Legal Immigration, said efforts to get stores not to sell the costume amounted to an attack on freedom of speech. He urged Americans to buy the costumes in protest.

"I looked at the costume and thought it was kind of funny. The only thing that wasn't funny was how many illegal immigrants are in this country," said Gheen, who has given speeches suggesting Latin Americans are bringing an epidemic of tuberculosis to the U.S., despite government figures showing the illness is at an all-time low.


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Is it distasteful and degrading? Bolded part because I lol'd.
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Posted 20 October 2009 - 07:58 PM

What's funny to some people is offensive to other people. Pulling this off the shelves would be stupid, IMO. Let people have a bit of fun!

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Posted 20 October 2009 - 07:58 PM

I've seen people walk around in much more offensive dress than that - but pull it from the shelves? No way.

If you find it distasteful, consider either taking a chill pill and dealing with it or vacating the area. Besides, Halloween is about dressing up and having fun.

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Posted 20 October 2009 - 08:00 PM

Offensive? Controversial? Racial Stereotyping?

Oh boy, oh boy, I wish they'd sell that thing up here in Canada!

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Posted 20 October 2009 - 08:06 PM

Please explain how an illegal alien is a race.

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Posted 20 October 2009 - 08:08 PM

Distasteful to whom? It's making fun of the government's and the media's designation for immigrants. I mean, the immigrants themselves don't feel alluded by the costume of an alien, no?

And if it helps, as a Permanent Resident I do have a nice cute Alien Number. And I find the costume hilarious.

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Posted 20 October 2009 - 08:10 PM

Charles covers my post.

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Posted 20 October 2009 - 08:33 PM

Not offensive at all. Just a pun. If it had "foreign scum" or something written on it then it would be.

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Posted 20 October 2009 - 08:45 PM

View PostSoxNation, on Oct 21 2009, 02:06 AM, said:

Please explain how an illegal alien is a race.

Exactly! I point this out all the time, the usual rhetoric is "they're usually hispanic" which I then ask the responder if they resort to stereotypes.

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Posted 20 October 2009 - 08:48 PM

it's rude and stupid, and anyone who wears it is an idiot, but stores should be allowed to sell it.

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Posted 20 October 2009 - 08:49 PM

More nonsense by advocates who need to justify their paychecks.

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Posted 20 October 2009 - 08:53 PM

What? Who is being discriminated against here?

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Posted 20 October 2009 - 09:02 PM

lol, I just ordered that costume.

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Posted 20 October 2009 - 09:04 PM

It was pulled from the shelves already. Will post the article if I come across it again. >_<

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Posted 20 October 2009 - 09:46 PM

View PostLamuella, on Oct 20 2009, 10:48 PM, said:

it's rude and stupid, and anyone who wears it is an idiot, but stores should be allowed to sell it.


Rude and stupid how?

I don't know about you, but I find it pretty strange every time the Federal Government addresses me as a Resident Alien. This costume just follows this weird designation literally.

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Posted 20 October 2009 - 09:53 PM

I don't mind offensive costumes. If you get your $@! beat over it, don't complain. Otherwise, let them wear it.

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Posted 20 October 2009 - 10:12 PM

How is it an attack on freedom of speech if retailers don't sell it? Who's restricting whose speech? Xenophobic douchebags are perfectly capable of expressing their paranoid and racist delusions about illegal immigrants all they want if retailers decide not to sell this costume and retailers should be under no obligation to cater to their needs.

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Posted 20 October 2009 - 10:49 PM

It will offend our future alien overlords, better pull it.

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Posted 20 October 2009 - 10:59 PM

View PostSal Paradise, on Oct 20 2009, 09:12 PM, said:

How is it an attack on freedom of speech if retailers don't sell it? Who's restricting whose speech? Xenophobic douchebags are perfectly capable of expressing their paranoid and racist delusions about illegal immigrants all they want if retailers decide not to sell this costume and retailers should be under no obligation to cater to their needs.


This

Except I don't see any racism in this at all. You need to tone down your liberal B.S.

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Posted 20 October 2009 - 11:13 PM

Obviously you don't see any racism in it.

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