[edikroma]

http://www.huffingto...d_n_322784.html

Original AP story:
http://www.google.co...Ie9NDwD9BBOKIG0


A judge in Louisiana refused to issue a marriage license to an interracial couple because of concerns he has for the potential lives of the children. He says he's not racist and that he marries black couples all the time, but he doesn't do interracial marriages since statistically, they're marriages don't last as long as other marriages...

What do you think? Does a judge have the authority to deny a marriage license to someone because of fears what the lives of potential children will be like? Personally, I think the guy is just trying to come up with an excuse for his beliefs that whites and blacks shouldn't mix...but that's just my opinion...

Also, he may fear for the mixed race children and how they might not fit into either society...but don't we have a mixed-race man AS THE FRICKIN PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES?!

EDIT: Forgot the story!!!

This post has been edited by edikroma: 15 October 2009 - 03:05 PM

[Flatlander]

"but he doesn't do interracial marriages since statistically, they're marriages don't last as long as other marriages..."

Gee, then I hope he never marries anyone under age 25 either, since statistically they don't last as long ......

[Vaal Satori]

Wow. As a biracial person I can comfortably say that he is full of crap. Even setting aside my own personal opinion though, it has already been declared unconstitutional to impede marriage between interracial couples in the 1967 Loving v Virginia Supreme Court case. So he doesn't have a leg to stand on. If necessary they can take him to court and have the ruling reaffirmed.

[Tyler DurdenCC]

Wait a minute! Look at the runaway balloon kid article.... about 1/2 way down..... the family pic....

http://www.msnbc.msn...s/us_news-life/

[Arcturus Jefferson]

This is why we should've let the south secede.

[Mongol Federation]

Arcturus Jefferson, on Oct 15 2009, 05:45 PM, said:

This is why we should've let the south secede.

And then let us socialist take over and kill all the racists.

The racists are a minority, I repeat, a minority. Most southerners aren't even white these days.

[Arcturus Jefferson]

New Inca Empire, on Oct 15 2009, 05:49 PM, said:

The racists are a minority, I repeat, a minority. Most southerners aren't even white these days.

The latter doesn't really have much to do with the former, but I hope you're right.

[edikroma]

Alright, let's give him the benefit of the doubt and say that he is not a racist, and that his objection to interracial marriage is not based on separation of the races and actually based on statistics he's seen... Can he use a precedent like that to deny a couple from marrying? I honestly don't see where he could possibly justify using his beliefs on interracial marriage to deny a couple the right to marry...

Forget about the fact that this same sort of thinking could be used to deny poor people the right to marry, or any other group... what about the fact that you don't need to get married to have children? I mean, sure, don't let the couple get married, but that's not going to stop them from producing the kids that you seem so hell-bent on protecting from the cold, mean world...

[ty345]

New Inca Empire, on Oct 15 2009, 05:49 PM, said:

The racists are a minority, I repeat, a minority. Most southerners aren't even white these days.

Well, yes, but most Southerners have strange beliefs (ie all teenagers are criminals and must be punished pre-preemptively) and won't stand against the racists.

[Asriel Belacqua]

edikroma, on Oct 15 2009, 04:13 PM, said:

Alright, let's give him the benefit of the doubt and say that he is not a racist, and that his objection to interracial marriage is not based on separation of the races and actually based on statistics he's seen... Can he use a precedent like that to deny a couple from marrying? I honestly don't see where he could possibly justify using his beliefs on interracial marriage to deny a couple the right to marry...

Forget about the fact that this same sort of thinking could be used to deny poor people the right to marry, or any other group...

On this second paragraph: What about movie-stars/other famous people (yes I know this is included in your paragraph when you say "other group" but it's just another example)? They get married to a different person every week! (not really, but still) Should they not be allowed to marry based on the stats that show their marriages don't last that long either?

[Lord GVChamp]

Don't really agree with him, but this is a pretty legitimate practice in theory

[Lamuella]

a real life "I'm not racist, but..."

beautiful

[edikroma]

Lord GVChamp, on Oct 15 2009, 05:52 PM, said:

Don't really agree with him, but this is a pretty legitimate practice in theory

How could decisions made without consideration to individual circumstance but rather on broad stereotypes ever be considered a legitimate practice?

[Sal Paradise]

I think he's trying to make a subtle point in support of gay marriage and gay adoption. Well done sir, but you can't slip that past me.

Arcturus Jefferson, on Oct 15 2009, 02:45 PM, said:

This is why we should've let the south secede.

And why we left.

[America]

edikroma, on Oct 15 2009, 10:13 PM, said:

Alright, let's give him the benefit of the doubt and say that he is not a racist, and that his objection to interracial marriage is not based on separation of the races and actually based on statistics he's seen... Can he use a precedent like that to deny a couple from marrying? I honestly don't see where he could possibly justify using his beliefs on interracial marriage to deny a couple the right to marry...

Forget about the fact that this same sort of thinking could be used to deny poor people the right to marry, or any other group... what about the fact that you don't need to get married to have children? I mean, sure, don't let the couple get married, but that's not going to stop them from producing the kids that you seem so hell-bent on protecting from the cold, mean world...

I would say that yes, one could, but the problem is that he isn't applying it even handily when it does come to statistics, as no doubt many other marriage qualities cause even higher divorce rates then biracial marriage, and he is ignoring those.

[Lord GVChamp]

edikroma, on Oct 15 2009, 06:00 PM, said:

How could decisions made without consideration to individual circumstance but rather on broad stereotypes ever be considered a legitimate practice?

When information about individual circumstance is obscure and hard to discern.


Young boys are more dangerous drivers. Sure, YOU might be a great driver that always goes the speed limit and isn't out at 3 AM with your boys heading to Buffalo Wild Wings to do the Blazin' Wing challenge. I don't know that, though, and I can't know that unless I follow you through your life. You also have a strong incentive to lie to me to bargain down your premiums.
In this case, I just charge the entire group more

[Delta1212]

Half of marriages end in divorce. He should only grant marriage licenses to half the couples who ask for them, then nobody will ever get divorced! Hooray making up stupid rationalizations for dumb ideas with statistics!

[Prince Imrahil]

He needs to be pointed to Loving v. Virginia, the Supreme Court case that legalized interracial marriage. Also, he needs to be fired for dereliction of duty. It's really that simple. Whether or not he thinks the marriage will last is immaterial.

[Sal Paradise]

Evangelicals have higher divorce rates too.

[Nythera]

This is crap. I'm a mish-mash of nationalities, and guess what? My parents have been married twenty years! They both despise the other's family, but neither gives a $%&@. And anway, my brother Nick and I fit perfectly into our own little niches in society.