[WalkerNinja]

The Fantasy CN Draft (and it's predecessor last year) have shown that there is reasonably clear consensus about who the best Alliance Leaders are. Most line-ups will carry a Liquid Mercury, a Moldavi, a Dilber, etc...

But that's not really a draft. There's no scarcity. Chances are that you don't have those people in your alliance, and you won't be able to get them. You've got to have a back-up plan. What I think would be more interesting is to generate a list of the B-teamers, the support staff, the challengers.

I'm sorting mine by Milcom, IA, FA, and Executive (Triumvir, Emperor, Grandmaster, SecGen, what have you)

Off of the top of my head:

Quercus- IA/Milcom
TeamDiscoveryChannel- IA
EvilGM- IA
MyWorld- FA
Coursca- FA
NewReverie- Milcom
Arsenal- executive
Templar- executive
Mpol777- executive
Golan1st- IA

[New Frontier]

Why don't we ACTUALLY have a draft? List a hundred or so leaders, and then have a few people draft an actual government from them.

[Haflinger]

Everyone's going to list the people they know well and exclude the people they don't. Like I'd say Dawny, but most of CN really doesn't know her, because she doesn't lead Invicta anymore.

[Elyat]

Okay first, I realise this is an OOC forum and I'll say I have nothing against MyWorld (in fact I rather like him on this level) but WHAT???

I'm just absolutely baffled that ... you. You, with that tag, of all people, insinuating that MyWorld is a leadership asset to any alliance without a suicide wish is just. Well, it's... beyond adjectives! Gah.

edit: wording. still sucks but meh.

This post has been edited by Elyat: 01 October 2009 - 01:54 PM

[Vilien]

I think Doitzel is pretty underrated.

[Some-Guy]

WalkerNinja, on Oct 1 2009, 08:41 PM, said:

Quercus- IA/Milcom
TeamDiscoveryChannel- IA
EvilGM- IA
MyWorld- FA
Coursca- FA
NewReverie- Milcom
Arsenal- executive
Templar- executive
Mpol777- executive
Golan1st- IA

No SomeGuy?

I made you, kid.

[Johnny Apocalypse]

I say JoshuaR is pretty underrated.

[Penguin]

A lot of the alliance leadership positions really shouldn't need to be "big name" people. If you're in charge of any variety of internal processes it really doesn't matter how popular or famous you are outside of your alliance. Most of our best organizers, financiers, generals and other positions that deal with internal affairs never achieve recognition outside of our boards because they are too busy working hard to socialize with the rest of you. When I see a list filled to the brim with famous people and type A personalities that the starstruck suggester probably has never interacted with on any level to make a fair judgment, I chuckle to myself at how much of a disaster that alliance would be. Not only would most of those leaders be unable to tolerate the others for more than a few days, but they'd be such a mixed bag of political preferences, contacts, loyalties and approaches to foreign policy that the alliance would collapse in on itself internally even as the rest of the world fell madly in love with them.

This post has been edited by Penguin: 01 October 2009 - 02:14 PM

[Chron]

I hear Chron is pretty underrated.

As is Doppelganger, In fact, just go with Chron.

This post has been edited by Chron: 01 October 2009 - 02:15 PM

[Bob Janova]

I'd say both banned member (I think she's filtered – long time GOON Black Senator) and Furseiseki are underrated because of the way their alliances went down. Both were good at balancing their alliances' innate lulz in IA and the need for 'standard CN' diplomacy in FA, rather like Archon although in the end less successful.

Doc Taco also deserves a mention; he went about the business of running MHA without ever making a name for himself, but he was very effective.

[General Ozujsko]

Elyat, on Oct 1 2009, 03:58 PM, said:

Okay first, I realise this is an OOC forum and I'll say I have nothing against MyWorld (in fact I rather like him on this level) but WHAT???

I'm just absolutely baffled that ... you. You, with that tag, of all people, insinuating that MyWorld is a leadership asset to any alliance without a suicide wish is just. Well, it's... beyond adjectives! Gah.

edit: wording. still sucks but meh.

Yah, MyWorld is such a terrible influence on an alliance. He's only revolutionized trading on black and has been integral part of NOIR. Oh yeah, under his leadership, DT is one of the top small-alliances on black.

[Supa_Troop3r]

I like this idea. A big Draft would be fun.

[DogeWilliam]

I'm going to go with Hakai. He even has an -ism named after him now don't you know. Whoever was in charge of GOONS at its prime was a good leader. Can't remember who that was.

[d3filed]

I believe that genghis khan is rather underrated.

[Skibum56]

The whole gov't of Veritas Aequitus is pretty awesome. From Mankiller to Erixxx, conner, mrott and beyond there awesome and highly underrated.

[AirMe]

WalkerNinja, on Oct 1 2009, 03:41 PM, said:

The Fantasy CN Draft (and it's predecessor last year) have shown that there is reasonably clear consensus about who the best Alliance Leaders are. Most line-ups will carry a Liquid Mercury, a Moldavi, a Dilber, etc...

But that's not really a draft. There's no scarcity. Chances are that you don't have those people in your alliance, and you won't be able to get them. You've got to have a back-up plan. What I think would be more interesting is to generate a list of the B-teamers, the support staff, the challengers.

I'm sorting mine by Milcom, IA, FA, and Executive (Triumvir, Emperor, Grandmaster, SecGen, what have you)

Off of the top of my head:

Quercus- IA/Milcom
TeamDiscoveryChannel- IA
EvilGM- IA
MyWorld- FA
Coursca- FA
NewReverie- Milcom
Arsenal- executive
Templar- executive
Mpol777- executive
Golan1st- IA

Umm....all but 1 of the people on your list is far from underrated and left their mark on the game somehow....I don't know who TeamDiscoveryChannel is. But the rest....yeah.....not really underrated at all.

[Epiphanus]

This is almost as dumb as the fantasy thing in the other thread... People name big names who they've seen on the OWF alot, and or who have had their hands in big goings on. >_>

[HalfEmpty]

IrishWolf is way underated in FA.
Over-rated in drinking and fighting tho.

[Gauner]

d3filed, on Oct 1 2009, 02:45 PM, said:

I believe that genghis khan is rather underrated.

Vouched. I'd have him as my foreign affairs guy anyday.

Actually, on second thought, i'd just resign and let him lead the entire thing.

This post has been edited by Gauner: 01 October 2009 - 02:59 PM

[Franz Ferdinand]

For some reason, people have forgotten to mention me, even though I am somewhat notable. Anyway, back to my scheming for a more evil tomorrow.