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A Matter of Question Should New England do something about it?

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Should New England take over Prince Edward Island and Newfoundland?

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Posted 12 June 2009 - 09:59 PM

For some time, from the moment the Republic of New England was formally established, became a Commonwealth, joined the United States of America, and recently became an independent nation once again, we had noted and watched something near us with interest and concern.

The neighboring regions of Prince Edward Island and Newfoundland. It seems that communications to and from these aforementioned nations have stopped for a long while (OOC: Over a year had passed since New England was established, by my time scale. :P), and we fear that they may have succumbed to anarchy, or something worse. If anything, New England would like to take over these lands in order to reestablish law and order and to make these regions prosperous once again.

But concerns regarding the reactions from the people and the international community have prompted the federal government hold a referendum to help gauge the sentiments of the people and the international community regarding this and to chart an appropriate action based on that.

The question is: should New England do something about Prince Edward Island and Newfoundland?

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Posted 12 June 2009 - 10:02 PM

New England should not be expanding anywhere. You have not existed for very long and the neighboring regions have already shown that they want their own government. Let them be and leave your imperialist agenda at home.

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Posted 12 June 2009 - 10:03 PM

Aggression and expansion is not something that Xaristan wishes to see on the North American continent.

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Posted 12 June 2009 - 10:07 PM

View PostSargun, on Jun 13 2009, 05:01 AM, said:

New England should not be expanding anywhere. You have not existed for very long and the neighboring regions have already shown that they want their own government. Let them be and leave your imperialist agenda at home.

And Louisiana has existed for even less time.

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Posted 12 June 2009 - 10:09 PM

View PostArkantos, on Jun 12 2009, 11:06 PM, said:

And Louisiana has existed for even less time.

Ad hominem attacks are not amusing.

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Posted 12 June 2009 - 10:13 PM

View PostArkantos, on Jun 13 2009, 12:06 AM, said:

And Louisiana has existed for even less time.


Your point? Louisiana is not trying to expand. New England is.

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Posted 12 June 2009 - 10:17 PM

View PostSargun, on Jun 13 2009, 04:08 AM, said:

Ad hominem attacks are not amusing.

That was not an ad hominem attack. I was not attacking a man.

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Posted 12 June 2009 - 10:18 PM

View PostArkantos, on Jun 12 2009, 11:17 PM, said:

That was not an ad hominem attack. I was not attacking a man.

You are taking the phrase too literally.

OOC: An ad hominem argument, also known as argumentum ad hominem (Latin: "argument to the man", "argument against the man") consists of replying to an argument or factual claim by attacking or appealing to a characteristic or belief of the person making the argument or claim, rather than by addressing the substance of the argument or producing evidence against the claim.

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Posted 13 June 2009 - 03:07 AM

TAKEOVER OF PRINCE EDWARD ISLAND AND NEWFOUNDLAND


According to the current referendum, the federal government’s prospects of taking over Prince Edward Island and Newfoundland as a pretext of reestablishing law and order garnered over 66% of the popular vote, with some 60 million out of 90 million supporting it and thirty million against, with an unspecified amount abstaining. The preposition also garnered a similar level of support from the international community.

Emboldened from these level of support, President Kennedy, after deliberating with his cabinet and other members of the government, decided to authorize an operation to send troops to take over Prince Edward Island and Newfoundland, starting immediately. Through National Preposition 103421-A (or National Preposition Newfoundland and Prince Edward Island), signed into law by President Kennedy, as many as three divisions of the Army were to be dispatched to both regions.

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Prince Edward Island


Orders were secretly transmitted to the Army Division Command headquarters in Fredericton, informing them that three divisions (the Fifteenth, Sixteenth, and Seventeenth) of the Army were already on their way where they would be ferried through New Brunswick to the Sea of Lawrence. Once there, ships of the Navy were to ferry the troops across the Sea of Lawrence to Prince Edward Island, taking care not to intrude upon any sovereign waters along the way.

They did so; the troops were loaded into ships that steamed toward Prince Edward Island. Hours later, they reached Prince Edward Island where they steamed into Charlottetown, the capital of the region. Soon, the whole of the region were under control as the troops of the Seventeenth Division moved outwards from Charlottetown to occupy the whole island. Law and order were quickly imposed.

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Newfoundland


Getting to Newfoundland was a little trickier, but it would be done nevertheless. The ships carrying the Fifteenth and Sixteenth Divisions headed toward Newfoundland, where they landed on the islands of Saint Pierre, 25 kilometers (16 miles) south from Newfoundland. Hours later, troops landed on the shores outside the capital of Saint John and occupied the city. As in Prince Edward Island, the troops imposed and enforced law and order as they moved throughout the island; soon the entire island was under New England military control. The operation was a success, and soon the regions of Prince Edward Island and Newfoundland, as in the case of New Brunswick, became organized incorporated territories of New England.

Daniel “Danny” Williams was appointed Governor of the newly-established Territory of Newfoundland while Robert Ghiz became the Governor of the Territory of Prince Edward Island.

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Posted 13 June 2009 - 10:35 AM

***Private to New England***

We had an MDP with the government of Newfoundland before it collapsed. Perhaps we could work out a deal for joint control or dividing the island?

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Posted 13 June 2009 - 10:49 AM

The Dragon Empire engineers brigade that had been deployed there about 6 months to a year ago to help the government rebuild after a civil war began a steady draw-down process to return home. The island had been mostly restored.. and is ready for whatever new government is established...

ooc: Yer welcome :-P

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Posted 13 June 2009 - 11:22 AM

View PostRaritan, on Jun 13 2009, 08:35 AM, said:

***Private to New England***

We had an MDP with the government of Newfoundland before it collapsed. Perhaps we could work out a deal for joint control or dividing the island?


OOC: THEY EZZ MINE! :awesome:

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***Private to Ardoria***

That won't be necessary as Newfoundland is now fully-secured and we can administer the island ourselves. However, we extend our apologies for our lack of knowledge about the MDP between the former government of Newfoundland and Ardoria. As a sign of goodwill, we shall allow Ardoria to maintain a permanent base on Newfoundland; its ports and harbors shall be open to Ardoria for commercial and military (the latter with prior authorization) purposes. How does that sound?

OOC2: The same deal I had with the Imperium, sorta. :P

View PostMaelstrom Vortex, on Jun 13 2009, 08:48 AM, said:

The Dragon Empire engineers brigade that had been deployed there about 6 months to a year ago to help the government rebuild after a civil war began a steady draw-down process to return home. The island had been mostly restored.. and is ready for whatever new government is established...

ooc: Yer welcome :-P


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This has been acknowledged by the new authorities.

OOC: =3

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Posted 13 June 2009 - 11:35 AM

View PostJEDCJT, on Jun 13 2009, 01:21 PM, said:

OOC: THEY EZZ MINE! :awesome:

IC: That won't be necessary as Newfoundland is now fully-secured and we can administer the island ourselves. However, we extend our apologies for our lack of knowledge about the MDP between the former government of Newfoundland and Ardoria. As a sign of goodwill, we shall allow Ardoria to maintain a permanent base on Newfoundland; its ports and harbors shall be open to Ardoria for commercial and military (the latter with prior authorization) purposes. How does that sound?

OOC2: The same deal I had with the Imperium, sorta. :P


That would be agreeable. Our intentions were simply to use it as a port and base. Perhaps we could formalize it with a treaty? The city and port of St. Johns would be or St. Pierre and Miqeulon would be more than adequate.

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Posted 13 June 2009 - 12:17 PM

View PostRaritan, on Jun 13 2009, 09:35 AM, said:

That would be agreeable. Our intentions were simply to use it as a port and base. Perhaps we could formalize it with a treaty? The city and port of St. Johns would be or St. Pierre and Miqeulon would be more than adequate.


This can be arranged. You may establish a base in a city of your choice (St. Pierre or St. John or others), but the cities shall remain under our control and jurisdiction.

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Posted 13 June 2009 - 03:56 PM

The State of Nova Scotia's House of Assembly issued a Resolution condmening New England's expansion into Prince Edward Island and Newfoundland. Such imperialist expansion, nearly surrounding Nova Scotia is of great concern. What will happen if New England suddenly decides that Nova Scotia is to far from the Tahoan mainland, and that despite being content with their position as Tahoan citizens, New England would be a better steward than we are?

Increased air patrols by the Nova Scotia Air Guard (two squadrons of fighters) have been shadowing New England troop transports

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Posted 13 June 2009 - 03:59 PM

View PostEmperor Mudd, on Jun 13 2009, 02:56 PM, said:

The State of Nova Scotia's House of Assembly issued a Resolution condmening New England's expansion into Prince Edward Island and Newfoundland. Such imperialist expansion, nearly surrounding Nova Scotia is of great concern. What will happen if New England suddenly decides that Nova Scotia is to far from the Tahoan mainland, and that despite being content with their position as Tahoan citizens, New England would be a better steward than we are?

Increased air patrols by the Nova Scotia Air Guard (two squadrons of fighters) have been shadowing New England troop transports

Evidence of Tahoe's unwarranted paranoia. Nova Scotia is a stable portion of Tahoe. These areas were anything but.

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Posted 13 June 2009 - 04:42 PM

View PostJEDCJT, on Jun 13 2009, 02:16 PM, said:

This can be arranged. You may establish a base in a city of your choice (St. Pierre or St. John or others), but the cities shall remain under our control and jurisdiction.


We wish to establish a base on the island of St. Pierre. We would also like to know if it would be possible to acquire the island of Miquelon too since they are right next to each other. A squadron of FB-38 fighter-bombers is being ferried into St. Pierre.

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Posted 13 June 2009 - 04:52 PM

View PostEmperor Mudd, on Jun 13 2009, 01:56 PM, said:

The State of Nova Scotia's House of Assembly issued a Resolution condmening New England's expansion into Prince Edward Island and Newfoundland. Such imperialist expansion, nearly surrounding Nova Scotia is of great concern. What will happen if New England suddenly decides that Nova Scotia is to far from the Tahoan mainland, and that despite being content with their position as Tahoan citizens, New England would be a better steward than we are?

Increased air patrols by the Nova Scotia Air Guard (two squadrons of fighters) have been shadowing New England troop transports


Hm, does that reflect the Government of the Tahoe Republic as a whole?
The Republic of New England would like to assure Nova Scotia, and Tahoe as well, that we would never attempt to take over Nova Scotia. It is a stable part of the Tahoe Republic, which is our friend and ally. It would be truly stupid and foolish for us to attack our ally. You have our word on that.

View PostSubtleknifewielder, on Jun 13 2009, 01:59 PM, said:

Evidence of Tahoe's unwarranted paranoia. Nova Scotia is a stable portion of Tahoe. These areas were anything but.


Let's not jump to conclusions. It may not reflect the sentiments of the federal government of the Tahoe Republic.

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Posted 13 June 2009 - 11:01 PM

View PostRaritan, on Jun 13 2009, 02:42 PM, said:

We wish to establish a base on the island of St. Pierre. We would also like to know if it would be possible to acquire the island of Miquelon too since they are right next to each other. A squadron of FB-38 fighter-bombers is being ferried into St. Pierre.


OOC: Oh, didnt see this. :blush:

IC: Permission granted to establish a base on St. Pierre.
Besides, we believe Miquelon-Langade also falls under our justification, although you are free to use the island as a base, if you wish.

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Posted 15 June 2009 - 01:51 PM

View PostJEDCJT, on Jun 13 2009, 03:51 PM, said:

Let's not jump to conclusions. It may not reflect the sentiments of the federal government of the Tahoe Republic.

OOC: Whoops, didn't see the part about it not being from Tahoe's governemtn. Nevertheless, I'll let the comment stand... :D

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