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Electing GMs for CNRP

#1 User is offline   Emperor Mudd 

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Posted 17 February 2009 - 05:02 PM

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OOC: This has been standard RP policy for a very long time. Also, HK47 and crew have already said that CNRP is in the hands of the GMs and the populace. Not theirs.


Mercy has stated that the mods have said CNRP is in the hands of the GMs and the populace, rather than being controlled by the mods. If this is indeed the case, then the GMs should be elected by the people participating in CNRP, not appointed by the mods.

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Posted 17 February 2009 - 05:09 PM

stop whining. they're appointed for their neutrality.

#3 User is offline   Emperor Mudd 

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Posted 17 February 2009 - 05:11 PM

They are appointed though and if the mods truly leave CNRP in the hands of the particpants they should be elected

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Posted 17 February 2009 - 05:11 PM

They were appointed, and they are doing a great job. One gave up most of his nation to do it.

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Posted 17 February 2009 - 07:44 PM

I wouldn't mind having another person to help, though I don't appreciate the slight.

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Posted 17 February 2009 - 07:48 PM

View Postmykep, on Feb 17 2009, 06:11 PM, said:

They were appointed, and they are doing a great job. One gave up most of his nation to do it.


And I will give up more of it if I need to prove to you that I'm trying to be as un-flipping-biased as I can.

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Posted 17 February 2009 - 07:48 PM

We can't trust the important task of choosing a GM to the populace. Picking the right GM is extremely important, and the common RPers cannot be trusted to choose the right GM.

In contrast, Mods have almost no biases, and are better for the task of choosing GMs.

This post has been edited by XRCatD: 17 February 2009 - 07:49 PM


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Posted 17 February 2009 - 07:52 PM

As an American who lived under 8 years of Bush, I ask you, "Can we trust democracy?"

As an Ubersteinian, I say "No."

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Posted 17 February 2009 - 07:54 PM

View PostBaronUberstein, on Feb 17 2009, 08:51 PM, said:

As an American who lived under 8 years of Bush, I ask you, "Can we trust democracy?"

As an Ubersteinian, I say "No."

It's why we have a supreme court, rather than the people, ruling on issues of constitutionality.

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Posted 17 February 2009 - 08:05 PM

View PostBaronUberstein, on Feb 17 2009, 05:51 PM, said:

As an American who lived under 8 years of Bush, I ask you, "Can we trust democracy?"

As an Ubersteinian, I say "No."


/me agrees.

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Posted 17 February 2009 - 08:43 PM

View PostBaronUberstein, on Feb 17 2009, 09:51 PM, said:

As an American who lived under 8 years of Bush, I ask you, "Can we trust democracy?"

As an Ubersteinian, I say "No."


Another win for the thinking tank that is Baron.

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Posted 17 February 2009 - 09:17 PM

My vote continues to go out to Botha, possibly the most neutral and unbiased person in RP

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Posted 17 February 2009 - 09:31 PM

View PostBaronUberstein, on Feb 17 2009, 08:51 PM, said:

As an American who lived under 8 years of Bush, I ask you, "Can we trust democracy?"

As an Ubersteinian, I say "No."

Democracy has its faults, yes, but it's one helluva lot better than any sort of dictatorship that anyone has going anywhere. The worst democracy is better than the best dictatorship.

Yeah, Bush screwed up, oh well, deal with it. Democracy is still better than dictatorship.

I have to agree with Mudd. If there's not going to be anyone who can balance out the powers of the GMs, then we ought to at least be able to pick our own.

And I agree with frost. Botha.

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Posted 17 February 2009 - 10:13 PM

I have no problem on how things currently stand, the moderation has (and should have) the final say in who oversees CNRP.
Ideally any GM of CNRP should have no vested interest in CNRP by way of a CNRP nation, but I would not be entirely opposed to a vote on the measure.

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Posted 17 February 2009 - 10:22 PM

View PostLord Frost, on Feb 17 2009, 09:17 PM, said:

My vote continues to go out to Botha, possibly the most neutral and unbiased person in RP


You know, that would have been my first choice too but I don't think most people want to babysit a bunch of people who constantly disagree.

I don't know how Sargun and Mercy do it.

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Posted 17 February 2009 - 10:24 PM

View PostVedran, on Feb 17 2009, 10:21 PM, said:

You know, that would have been my first choice too but I don't think most people want to babysit a bunch of people who constantly disagree.

I don't know how Sargun and Mercy do it.

Look up stoicism on wikipedia. It helps a lot.

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Posted 17 February 2009 - 10:51 PM

View PostMergerberger II, on Feb 17 2009, 07:31 PM, said:

Democracy has its faults, yes, but it's one helluva lot better than any sort of dictatorship that anyone has going anywhere. The worst democracy is better than the best dictatorship.

Yeah, Bush screwed up, oh well, deal with it. Democracy is still better than dictatorship.

I have to agree with Mudd. If there's not going to be anyone who can balance out the powers of the GMs, then we ought to at least be able to pick our own.

And I agree with frost. Botha.

And I disagree that democracy is better. I like my form of "Elitist Democracy", Where only the educated or those who do state service can vote. Democracy creates a mob rule.

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Posted 17 February 2009 - 10:56 PM

View PostVedran, on Feb 17 2009, 08:21 PM, said:

You know, that would have been my first choice too but I don't think most people want to babysit a bunch of people who constantly disagree.


I really appreciate the comments of support from Lord Frost and Mergerberger II (thanks guys :v: ) but Vedran pretty much sums it up for me.

Besides I just don't have the time - certainly during the spring and summer months - to keep track of all the RP going on, I struggle this time of year just to maintain my own RP on a semi-regular basis let alone pay attention to much else that's going on.


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Posted 17 February 2009 - 11:50 PM

I picture a vote with less than ALL the active RPers names on it in the near future.

I also picture that this future vote thread would be complete bull feces if it did not have every single active RPer on it.



However then it would just be chicken feces since everyone would vote for themselves or friends.

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Posted 18 February 2009 - 12:19 AM

View PostTahsir Re, on Feb 17 2009, 09:50 PM, said:

I picture a vote with less than ALL the active RPers names on it in the near future.


What I can see happening is the same thing we see with the Team Senates, where factions (i.e. different RP groups) lobby amongst themselves to get favourable candidates nominated and voted in.

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